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Yeah, but Ike's figure didn't change to much over the course of three years. The gap between GS1/TLA and DD was three decades; Generally, that's going to have a lot more changes, especially seeing as Isaac was still a teenager back then.
I feel like that would basically just be a Matthew alt color
Trademarks have absolutely nothing to do with Smash, nor they ever appear tied to any characters inclusion. This is a very, very old mistaken assumption to make that even we here learned way back then in 2018 when we thought the GS trademark had anything to do with isaac, when it never did, just like it didn't back in Brawl. Never mix trademarks with smash, it's completely unrelated, because the purpose of trademarks is something else entirely that falls in no place during character negotiations for Smash. They are for legally protecting new brands / brand's new products.
The biggest thing that was going on with Isaac during Smash 4 was the ballot days, according to the Smash4Dojo poll which compiles all the major polls during the era and Isaac did pretty well for himself only being edged out by King K.Rool
Those polls is what leads to believe Isaac still has a chance to appear as a DLC, right?
Well we've always pined that Isaac is one of the most highly requested first party characters to join the game which is a huge point in his favor so yeah pretty much
That's just part of it, a small part of it. That's just an idea of what was the actual demand around the ballot times, that dojo poll specifically, since it was like the biggest one back then. He was always at the highest spots in every poll including that dojo one which is most likely the most accurate we could probably have around the ballot time. ( In fact if you check it, we got almost everything that was around the top 10 places or so, which was banjo, veterans, wolf, snake, etc).
I do agree that, if Isaac is one of those 4 remaining fighters, he would be announced when the GS remake/remaster is also announced (2 birds with one stone). Seems pretty logical, specially considering is a Nintendo IP (no legal difficulties in that regard). Only thing is, I also believed that was the case for Travis, and... How more/less impact has NMH in comparison to Golden Sun? I believe someone said that GS sold 2 million copies with both GBA games, but I don't know how good/bad NMH regarding sells. All I know is that it's very niche.
Sales don't really matter when it comes to Smash inclusions. Sales would factor into decisions like reviving the series or merch but is completely independent of Sakurai's decision to add characters. It could act as an indirect reason, as the sales led Nintendo to revive the series and the revival let Sakurai add Isaac, but Sakurai would never say "hmm, this character's series only sold X million, so they won't get added". As for GS' lifetime, both GBA hit 1 million and DD hit 0.8 million, so we can place total sales at between 3 and 3.5 million, we don't really have exact numbers for the games.
What gives Isaac an edge over many is that he is 1st Party and is owned by Nintendo. Camelot makes Golden Sun, yes, but Nintendo owns Isaac, the characters, etc. So if the new GS Trademark approval is anything to go by, besides that a new game is in the works, Nintendo ACTIVELY pushed for it. Especially when it got rejected twice. It would be a very smart decision, business wise, to also add Isaac to Smash to help promote the new game. That’s easy money there.
and we KNOW Nintendo has been asking for more, since literally over a decade ago, so yeah.
This sounds like when my brain is telling me to work on my personal projects but my body isn't responding.
I doubt they actually need to do that much. It's nonsensical to make a purposefully lower-resolution model, especially with the costume existing. It's extremely likely that they already HAVE their "cleaned up" model, and minimal work really needs to be done
Exactly. In all likelihood, they made the high-quality model, modified the proportions for the Mii Costume, then downscaled it for the AT.
So what's this new "Mario sports" game?
Banjo.
If he did take sales into account Shulk would have never been added.
that trademark was for the Banjo figure that got put out awhile ago. The classifications match figurines as opposed to games.
This.
Something that isnt even gonna happen in 2021 since it just appeared and that means is just starting development, and most likely gonna be made by square enix or namco since they made those. Meanwhile the only legal evidence that supports what camelot has been making over 2+ years ago, since 2018, is golden sun. We have been through this multiple times here, with extensive research.
But is not Sakurai how make the choice, but Nintendo instead (like Minecraft). I do believe the inclusion of Travis would have been really cool, and I really feel sorry for people how wanted him on Smash.
Yeah, probably the same as the new trademark for Dark Dawn. It's very new (started the process on mid 2020), so maybe on 2022/2023 (for both Mario Sports and GSDD).
There was also an article where the Xenoblade producer mentioned the huge impact of Shulk being in Smash bros and how it helped bring awareness to the character and kept the series in the public eye. Putting Isaac in Smash will bring new waves of fans wanting to play the new GS. It's already proven to work with Shulk. If we get the Golden Sun game and Isaac's not on the pass I'm going to be scratching my head like, why wouldn't you replicate success?
Exactly! Do the same and you would have good results again! How knows, maybe could surpass Xenoblade.
Especially when you consider that Golden Sun was a 1.8 million seller right off the bat.
I agree with everyone else that sales aren't everything, but to answer your question, NMH has sold way less than GS, with none of the games coming close to a million (sales data isn't too conclusive, but I don't think any of the games even crossed half a million copies sold).
It seems to be a mix of both. While Byleth and Steve seemed to have been picked by Nintendo, Terry was without a doubt a present for Sakurai. I'm glad he got it, too after all the work he's put in.
And Earthbound.
We have no idea what the revenue model looks like. Could be literally anything, but Aces selling very well is certainly not a bad thing. I'm 99.99% sure Nintendo is writing the checks for the development over the last 2 and a half years for Camelot anyway, I wouldn't be worried.
Should probably throw in Min Min for Nintendo and Joker for Sakurai. Hero seemed like they were something both parties were enthusiastic about. I'll have to double-check for Banjo
Based on what's mentioned in these posts, that would make both of the sole two first party representation in DLC so far, the result of Nintendo. I think Sakurai has moved on to Ultimate being the biggest colab of franchises and celebration of gaming as a whole, which is why I've been leaning more heavily to Isaac coming down to Nintendo more than Sakurai.
This is something Project+ did, letting you select between the Venus and Mercury Lighthouses even if they never completed Project M Isaac. I'd expect Sakurai to one up them with Mars and Jupiter Lighthouse options as well.Also, selectable Biomes on the Minecraft level by holding down certain buttons...
Selectable Lighthouses on the Golden Sun level?
You madman now I'm going to be disappointed when there is only one lighthouse as an option lol
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Thank you! Yeah, you can feel the love during Terry presentation. I used to play with him when playing KOF and Fatal Fury, his inclusion was great. And he's so fun to play.
I love this "Sakurai presents"! Is like "Fun with Flags" (Big Bang Theory) but with Smash fighters and their franchises XD. Imagine a presentation with the same level of dedication as Terry/Minecraft. That would be a dream! Closing with "Dark Dawn ended in such a cliffhanger, I wonder when we would see its sequel?".
100% real. No source or I will get found out.
While I don't believe it because no Proof, I entertain it because why not...
