Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[Pinguino21v]

That's it. Cadence DLC, SMT, and two random games. Note that there were two others games in the japanese Direct.

Let's back to waiting again, but I believe there will be way stronger things at a later date, looking at the disappointement of insiders who were expecting big surprises.

 

[FlawedAI]

I'm popping off because of SMTV but the rest was kinda rough. Still liked it, I expect this "Partner Showcase" to happen monthly given the branding of "July 2020" and the announcement of more in the future. Still expecting a full general Nintendo Direct in August.

 

[Pwnapplez]

Nintendo I am very upset we didn't get 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand HD in this direct.

 

[Cadillac]

Atelier Ryza 2 trailer. This appears.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Nocturne HD was neat. Didn't feel like we really learned much more about Shin Megami Tensei V aside from that it's releasing next year.

I think knowing it was a mini direct helped me keep my expectations in check. Even so I thought they would gone through the games quicker and had more of them.

Also it's kinda funny to me that when people saw it was 10 minutes they were let down.....and then in the end it wasn't even 10 minutes.

 

[StarDustStorm]

They lied to us
It's only 8 minutes!

The Japanese direct was 4 minutes longer with more games in it and that statement was only for the Japanese direct to be 10 minutes long.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

At this point I don't think I'd expect much from these Nintendo direct minis, especially not in terms of Smash.

If anything they'll just drop a Smash direct/trailer independent of these mini directs in the next month or so.

 

[Pwnapplez]

Nintendo fans and their expectations in a post Covid-19 world....

Was this direct necessary? No. Did people blow this out of proportion? Yeah buddy.

Smash news will come, new games will come, but people patience is a virtue.

 

[ZelDan]

As I said in the general newcomer specualtion thread, I get why people are frustrated right now with Nintendo, but it feels like they are aiming it at the wrong things, those being Kelios and SMTV.

 

[Sentinel07]

You know, I had low expectations for the Direct Mini, but finally getting to see Shin Megami Tensei 5 made me so happy! :D

And simultaneous worldwide release? Atlus is finally learning after how annoyingly long we had to wait for Persona 5 to make it over.

 

[Nazyrus]

You know, I had low expectations for the Direct Mini, but finally getting to see Shin Megami Tensei 5 made me so happy! :D

And simultaneous worldwide release? Atlus is finally learning after how annoyingly long we had to wait for Persona 5 to make it over.

This should truly have been just an Atlus direct lol

 

[Sabrewulf238]

This should truly have been just an Atlus direct lol

Shin Megami Tensei Direct (Featuring John Cena from WWE)

 

[clearandsweet]

Shin Megami Tensei Direct (Featuring John Cena from WWE)

Wasn't the original meme about "ft. Dante from Devil May Cry" from Shin Megami Tensei in the first place? Oh how the turntables.

Well leakers are saying there's more to come fairly soon/stuff was left out of this direct. So back on that waiting grind.

Not sure what to think about Atelier Ryza and the other game being cut other than NOA thinks Americans like wrestling and guns more than things we actually like.

You know what? I do know what to think. I might buy that first Ryza game. That's what I think.

 

[jweb23]

Atelier Ryza 2 trailer. This appears.
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I definitely wouldn’t look too deep into that, it’s just a scene from the game. People need to understand the Smash symbol as well as the letters with a wax seal are incredibly common things in pop culture. This reminds me of that Shantae game trailer last year that showed her waking up and the sunlight shining through her window creates the Smash symbol but so far it meant nothing. So don’t put any stock into that scene.

 

[SonicLink125]

One day, these 2 legends (along with many other beloved IPs) will return! Hopefully soon!
#SmashBros #GoldenSun #AssistAlliance #FZero pic.twitter.com/9q6xm8Ld7s

— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) July 20, 2020

One day, Golden Sun & F-Zero (and many more) will return and it will be awesome! Got one (or two?) more good pic of these two that I’ll post later this week.

Smash news will come, new games will come, but people patience is a virtue.

You’re absolutely right! The year isn’t over yet. There’s still something coming. We just have to be patient.

 

[Sentinel07]

One day, these 2 legends (along with many other beloved IPs) will return! Hopefully soon!
#SmashBros #GoldenSun #AssistAlliance #FZero pic.twitter.com/9q6xm8Ld7s

— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) July 20, 2020

One day, Golden Sun & F-Zero (and many more) will return and it will be awesome! Got one (or two?) more good pic of these two that I’ll post later this week.



You’re absolutely right! The year isn’t over yet. There’s still something coming. We just have to be patient.

We'll just have to see if that report that said Nintendo will have a true summer direct at some point (either August or September) will be true or not.

 

[Nazyrus]

One day, these 2 legends (along with many other beloved IPs) will return! Hopefully soon!
#SmashBros #GoldenSun #AssistAlliance #FZero pic.twitter.com/9q6xm8Ld7s

— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) July 20, 2020

One day, Golden Sun & F-Zero (and many more) will return and it will be awesome! Got one (or two?) more good pic of these two that I’ll post later this week.



You’re absolutely right! The year isn’t over yet. There’s still something coming. We just have to be patient.

I really like that first picture

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Shin Megami Tensei Direct (Featuring John Cena from WWE)

Don't you mean LuCENA?!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Glad to have witnessed the return of 50 Cent memes here.

 

[clearandsweet]

I have returned to this thread tell you that I value the character designs of Camelot very highly.

Is the guy that did all the GS characters and Waluigi's design still working for Camelot? Was he in the Aces credits? I miss him.

oh no he was not oh god oh no



It's very distracting design. Would not recommend Atelier Ryza's story either. Weak worldbuilding. Man, why can't every JPRG start off with an eruption destroying a town.

I know that leak turned out to be fake, and it was clearly fake from the outset but I was hoping I could get on board with someone like Ryza in Smash. Instead it seems like a crisis adverted.

Speaking of good JPRGs tho, I just now also played through the opening three hours of Tales of Berseria. It is _quite_ good. I will now be upset if Lloyd does get in over Velvet, and this is from someone who has completed Tales of Symphonia. Generic protagonist sword guy or demon-eating, revenge-driven, wraith barely in control of her emotions? C'mon, Namco.

Not really super related to anything, but I didn't really have anyone else to share this with and used Ryza vs. Sheba/Mia's designs today to explain pandering to people.

 

[WaddleMatt]

I have returned to this thread tell you that I value the character designs of Camelot very highly.

Is the guy that did all the GS characters and Waluigi's design still working for Camelot? Was he in the Aces credits? I miss him.

oh no he was not oh god oh no

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It's very distracting design. Would not recommend Atelier Ryza's story either. Weak worldbuilding. Man, why can't every JPRG start off with an eruption destroying a town.

I know that leak turned out to be fake, and it was clearly fake from the outset but I was hoping I could get on board with someone like Ryza in Smash. Instead it seems like a crisis adverted.

Speaking of good JPRGs tho, I just now also played through the opening three hours of Tales of Berseria. It is _quite_ good. I will now be upset if Lloyd does get in over Velvet, and this is from someone who has completed Tales of Symphonia. Generic protagonist sword guy or demon-eating, revenge-driven, wraith barely in control of her emotions? C'mon, Namco.

Not really super related to anything, but I didn't really have anyone else to share this with and used Ryza vs. Sheba/Mia's designs today to explain pandering to people.

hands off our thick thighs waifu bro leave her alone

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Generic protagonist sword guy

I can't believe Lloyd slander is happening in this thread.

Leave my boy alone.

 

[Clumsyzephyr]

I have returned to this thread tell you that I value the character designs of Camelot very highly.

Is the guy that did all the GS characters and Waluigi's design still working for Camelot? Was he in the Aces credits? I miss him.

oh no he was not oh god oh no

View attachment 279671

It's very distracting design. Would not recommend Atelier Ryza's story either. Weak worldbuilding. Man, why can't every JPRG start off with an eruption destroying a town.

I know that leak turned out to be fake, and it was clearly fake from the outset but I was hoping I could get on board with someone like Ryza in Smash. Instead it seems like a crisis adverted.

Speaking of good JPRGs tho, I just now also played through the opening three hours of Tales of Berseria. It is _quite_ good. I will now be upset if Lloyd does get in over Velvet, and this is from someone who has completed Tales of Symphonia. Generic protagonist sword guy or demon-eating, revenge-driven, wraith barely in control of her emotions? C'mon, Namco.

Not really super related to anything, but I didn't really have anyone else to share this with and used Ryza vs. Sheba/Mia's designs today to explain pandering to people.

I just think that Atelier wasn't for you, it's not meant to be a high stakes, heavily story driven game. And honestly, complaining about her design and then immediately praising Velvet is a tad bit silly.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Opinions aside, support threads shouldn't be places where we **** on other characters.

 

[ZelDan]

Yeah, ****ing on other characters doesn't do anything to prop up Isaac and only makes us look bad.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Isaacbros and Lloydbros have been allies for ages now, and this shall not be the day that sacred bond is broken!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Isaacbros and Lloydbros have been allies for ages now, and this shall not be the day that sacred bond is broken!

2000s RPG boys?

2000 RPG boys!

 

[ZelDan]

2000s RPG boys?

2000 RPG boys!

Us generic anime swordsman boys gotta stick together.

 

[ArkSPiTFirE]

From the 2018 Smash Ultimate Reddit Poll (where Isaac came 2nd). Never forget.

"89% of participants that always voted for Lloyd also always voted for Isaac except for their match up, 68% of participants that always voted for Isaac also always voted for Lloyd except for their match up."

"The least botted characters (relative to genuine votes received) were Isaac and Lloyd."

Our pure boys are in this together.

 

[Cadillac]

From the 2018 Smash Ultimate Reddit Poll (where Isaac came 2nd). Never forget.

"89% of participants that always voted for Lloyd also always voted for Isaac except for their match up, 68% of participants that always voted for Isaac also always voted for Lloyd except for their match up."

"The least botted characters (relative to genuine votes received) were Isaac and Lloyd."

Our pure boys are in this together.

If that's that I hope they both get in
Would prefer Yuri a bit more but Lloyd is still cool

 

[clearandsweet]

Huh, honestly surprised at that reaction. I enjoyed Tales of Symphonia (and now Berseria) immensely, totally support Tales getting into Smash, but I never once played as Lloyd if another option was available. Even in 2003, I thought he was a dumb design and was always playing as Zelos, Raine, ect. That official quote about if a Tales rep were to get in, it would be Lloyd still disheartens me because it just seems like the Tales of series has so many better, more interesting options, even limiting to just protagonists. Even what little I played of Yuri's and Luke's games made me like them more.

Reminds me of politics. Even if you don't like the person your party nominated, you still get behind them because its your best shot at having your party elected. Min-min was great in bucking that trend (Springman and Lloyd are similar here).

I just think that Atelier wasn't for you, it's not meant to be a high stakes, heavily story driven game. And honestly, complaining about her design and then immediately praising Velvet is a tad bit silly.

Fair enough. Actually, it feels tonally like Stardew Valley/Animal Crossing. Probably why I'm not into it. That and there's no reason other than pandering for this main character to look like 2B x Pyra if it's not going to matter at all to the story or worldbuilding. At least Berseria already made a plot point of Velvet being tomboyish and bad with social things and that driving suitors away.

 

[TempestSurge]

Had a dream that Angry Joe was doing a game giveaway to a fan and it was between a Golden Sun switch bundle going to a guy who's been a big fan forever and the other was the newest Mario game going to some streamer. Anyways Angry Joe announced the results and chose Mario.

Me and other GS fans walk past him without looking him in the eye and then continued to give him the silent treatment and decided we could try to raise the money to get the game and Switch on our own. But for some reason we were only putting in pennies and five cents lol. Then Angry Joe makes this video about how Golden Sun fans are crazy and he's getting attacked for not choosing it and yada yada. In the comments he's corrected by fans saying we're not attacking you and doing our own thing.

Angry Joe also magically knows where I work and followed me wondering what's the big deal so I tell him the GS guy would have been way more excited and appreciative over the gift vs the Mario streamer. I show him that the Mario streamer has moved on to another game.

Later on in the day my boss says Angry Joe wants to see me and he jumps out behind his car dressed in a full Isaac costume and I just start jumping and screaming and he's like, we're going to go pay that GS guy a visit. We magically teleport to the top of a mountain and the GS guy is outside his house (which my dream made look like Isaac, come on lol).

But it was so cute, he was super happy and invited us inside, which was pretty small and he had three younger siblings and we played Golden Sun, but it looked like Super Smash Bros for some reason lol.

 

[ArkSPiTFirE]

Had a dream that Angry Joe was doing a game giveaway to a fan and it was between a Golden Sun switch bundle going to a guy who's been a big fan forever and the other was the newest Mario game going to some streamer. Anyways Angry Joe announced the results and chose Mario.

Me and other GS fans walk past him without looking him in the eye and then continued to give him the silent treatment and decided we could try to raise the money to get the game and Switch on our own. But for some reason we were only putting in pennies and five cents lol. Then Angry Joe makes this video about how Golden Sun fans are crazy and he's getting attacked for not choosing it and yada yada. In the comments he's corrected by fans saying we're not attacking you and doing our own thing.

Angry Joe also magically knows where I work and followed me wondering what's the big deal so I tell him the GS guy would have been way more excited and appreciative over the gift vs the Mario streamer. I show him that the Mario streamer has moved on to another game.

Later on in the day my boss says Angry Joe wants to see me and he jumps out behind his car dressed in a full Isaac costume and I just start jumping and screaming and he's like, we're going to go pay that GS guy a visit. We magically teleport to the top of a mountain and the GS guy is outside his house (which my dream made look like Isaac, come on lol).

But it was so cute, he was super happy and invited us inside, which was pretty small and he had three younger siblings and we played Golden Sun, but it looked like Super Smash Bros for some reason lol.

...What did I just read?

 

[Nazyrus]

Had a dream that Angry Joe was doing a game giveaway to a fan and it was between a Golden Sun switch bundle going to a guy who's been a big fan forever and the other was the newest Mario game going to some streamer. Anyways Angry Joe announced the results and chose Mario.

Me and other GS fans walk past him without looking him in the eye and then continued to give him the silent treatment and decided we could try to raise the money to get the game and Switch on our own. But for some reason we were only putting in pennies and five cents lol. Then Angry Joe makes this video about how Golden Sun fans are crazy and he's getting attacked for not choosing it and yada yada. In the comments he's corrected by fans saying we're not attacking you and doing our own thing.

Angry Joe also magically knows where I work and followed me wondering what's the big deal so I tell him the GS guy would have been way more excited and appreciative over the gift vs the Mario streamer. I show him that the Mario streamer has moved on to another game.

Later on in the day my boss says Angry Joe wants to see me and he jumps out behind his car dressed in a full Isaac costume and I just start jumping and screaming and he's like, we're going to go pay that GS guy a visit. We magically teleport to the top of a mountain and the GS guy is outside his house (which my dream made look like Isaac, come on lol).

But it was so cute, he was super happy and invited us inside, which was pretty small and he had three younger siblings and we played Golden Sun, but it looked like Super Smash Bros for some reason lol.

...What did I just read?

And I thought my dreams were wild, lol

 

[SharkLord]

...What did I just read?

...Eh, who needed sanity anyways?

 

[TempestSurge]

I doubt FlawedAI and Isaac: Venus Adept remember this but they actually liked a post from two years ago of mine where I mentioned how my Isaac dreams are never the cool and extravagant smash trailers. Just the weird stuff like the above lol.

 

[ZelDan]

I doubt FlawedAI and Isaac: Venus Adept remember this but they actually liked a post from two years ago of mine where I mentioned how my Isaac dreams are never the cool and extravagant smash trailers. Just the weird stuff like the above lol.

I'd say magically teleporting to a mountain with an Isaac House with Angry Joe in an Isaac costume is alot more extravagant than any Smash trailer could be.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Had a dream that Angry Joe was doing a game giveaway to a fan and it was between a Golden Sun switch bundle going to a guy who's been a big fan forever and the other was the newest Mario game going to some streamer. Anyways Angry Joe announced the results and chose Mario.

Me and other GS fans walk past him without looking him in the eye and then continued to give him the silent treatment and decided we could try to raise the money to get the game and Switch on our own. But for some reason we were only putting in pennies and five cents lol. Then Angry Joe makes this video about how Golden Sun fans are crazy and he's getting attacked for not choosing it and yada yada. In the comments he's corrected by fans saying we're not attacking you and doing our own thing.

Angry Joe also magically knows where I work and followed me wondering what's the big deal so I tell him the GS guy would have been way more excited and appreciative over the gift vs the Mario streamer. I show him that the Mario streamer has moved on to another game.

Later on in the day my boss says Angry Joe wants to see me and he jumps out behind his car dressed in a full Isaac costume and I just start jumping and screaming and he's like, we're going to go pay that GS guy a visit. We magically teleport to the top of a mountain and the GS guy is outside his house (which my dream made look like Isaac, come on lol).

But it was so cute, he was super happy and invited us inside, which was pretty small and he had three younger siblings and we played Golden Sun, but it looked like Super Smash Bros for some reason lol.

This is high level Psynergy, I wish I could remember my dreams in such detail.

 

[Xenigma]

The long wait for Smash news is driving me slightly crazy. Been watching random videos from Comic-Con@Home today (really missing San Diego Comic-Con, which I would have been at right now if not for the pandemic), and this announcement for a new season of the cartoon Mao Mao really caught me off-guard.

 

[jweb23]

The long wait for Smash news is driving me slightly crazy. Been watching random videos from Comic-Con@Home today (really missing San Diego Comic-Con, which I would have been at right now if not for the pandemic), and this announcement for a new season of the cartoon Mao Mao really caught me off-guard.

I’m usually quite patient when it comes to getting gaming news from Nintendo, but even I feel starved for info now. Especially since e3 was cancelled.

The one positive thing to remember is that Nintendo should be holding an investors meeting sometime in August, and I highly doubt they go to that meeting without some games scheduled for release in the second half of this year. So I feel it’s safe to assume we will be getting a big direct or at the very least some shadow dropped trailers in the next few weeks.