Stupid Yoshi Tricks (Now With Colors O:)

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This is where you put those little tricks you know Yoshi can do to certain characters or on certain stages that have no effect on matchups what so ever.....or maybe they do idk lol, but if there's something you think is common knowledge, others might not know about it. So store some of that useless info here.

Stage Specific
Stuff Yoshi can only do on certain stages like Yoshi bomb cancels for example



Yoshi's Island [Brawl]
  • <3 Air
  • You can Double Jump Waveland from a Ledge get up
  • You can Double Jump Waveland on the platform when its slightly tilted
  • When the Platform is in the process of tilting, you can do a universal platform cancel (moving platform cancel)
Battlefield
  • Can go under
  • FullHop Airdodge sets up for a perfect Super Jump on the lower platforms
  • FullHop Dair Autocancels on the Platforms
Smashville
  • Can go under
  • Moving Platform Cancel
Final Destination
  • Can go under
Lylat Cruise
  • Can go under
  • Moving Platform Cancel
  • You can Double Jump Waveland on the edges(depends on the tilt)
Halberd
  • Can go under (when on the moving segment)
  • FullHop Airdodge on the Still part of Halberd (After you stop moving) up to the platform sets up for a perfect Super Jump
Pokémon Stadium 1

Castle Siege

Delfino Plaza
  • Can go under (when on the moving platform)
  • Sharky Abortion Lock in the water ;D
Brinstar
  • Can go under
Frigate Orpheon
Rainbow Cruise
  • Can go under the ship
  • On the top part of the transformation you can grab release MK to Fsmash(More options needs testing)
  • You can Moving platform Cancel on any platform on the stage
  • When you grab a character on the Falling blocks, at the grab release yoshi jumps up and the opponent drops down
  • You can down b cancel on the flying carpets.
Jungle Japes
  • DoubleJump as Quick as possible and you will get out of the water
Pirate Ship

PictoChat

Pokémon Stadium 1
  • If you Fullhop Buffered airdodge up to one of the 2 main PS1 Platforms, it sets you up perfectly for a SuperJump
Norfair
  • Godlike Ece
Luigi's Mansion

Distant Planet

Yoshi's Island [Melee]
  • When you down b on a block it starts to spin, letting you double jump immediatly for epic air camping O:


Character Specific
Things we can only do to Certian Characters Grab Releases and what not




  1. Bowser
  2. Captain Falcon
  3. Charizard
  4. Diddy Kong

    [*]Donkey Kong
    • Grab Release Egg Lay
  5. Falco
    • Egg Roll beats Fire Bird (sometimes clanks), Jab after clank is safeish
    • Can be Egglayed out of Grab Release offstage
    • Just about anything beats clanks or trades with phantasm.
  6. Fox
    • Egg Roll beats Firefox (sometimes clanks), Jab after clank is safe.
    • Just about anything beats/clanks/trades with Illusion
  7. Game & Watch
  8. Ganondorf
    • Grab Release to DR Dtilt
    • Grab Release to DR Ftilt
    • Grab Release to DR Dsmash
    • Grab Release to Upsmash
    • Can be Egglayed out of Grab Release offstage.
  9. Ice Climbers
    • Grab Release Upsmash
  10. Ike
    • If grab released at the ledge without a second jump they cannot recover (May need a ledge grab)
  11. Ivysaur
  12. Jigglypuff
    • Eggroll Clanks with rollout
    • Grab Release to upair (easier when at the ledge)
  13. King DeDeDe
    • If you footstool his UpB before it goes up, you end up in a perfect position to upair him
  14. Kirby
    • He can duck under your Upsmash
    • He can duck under your Jab 1
  15. Link
  16. Lucario
  17. Lucas
    • Egg Roll clanks with certain parts of PKT2 but its tricky.
    • Grab Release to DR Dtilt
    • Grab Release to DR Ftilt
    • Grab Release to DR Dsmash
    • Grab Release to DR Fsmash
    • Grab Release to Upsmash
  18. Luigi
  19. Mario
  20. Marth
  21. Meta Knight
    • Grab Release to DR Dtilt
    • Grab Release to DR Ftilt
    • Grab Release to DR Dsmash
    • Grab Release to Upsmash
    • Grab Release to Dash Attack
  22. Ness
    • Egg Roll clanks with Parts of PKT2 but it's tricky
    • Grab Release to Upsmash
    • Grab Release to Uair
    • Egg Roll over his PKT and it goes away + You can still recover
  23. Olimar
    • Our dash grab beats his pivot grab
  24. Pikachu
  25. Peach
  26. Pit
  27. R.O.B
    • When R.O.B is in the air and we footstool him, We can immediately Nair him
  28. Samus
  29. Sheik
    • Grab Release to Fair Offstage
  30. Snake
    • Down B trades Hits With Cypher
    • He can duck under your Upsmash
  31. Sonic
    • If you grab him without his Spring Jump you can CG him across stage and he can't Recover
    • Egg Roll Clanks with Side and Down B, Trades hits with the top of Side B. Jab after Clank is safe.
  32. Squirtle
    • Grab Release to DR Dtilt
    • Grab Release to DR Ftilt
    • Grab Release to DR Dsmash
    • Grab Release to Upsmash
    • Grab Release to Fair Offstage
  33. Toon Link
  34. Wario
    • Grab Release to Upsmash
    • Grab Release to Fsmash
    • Grab Release to Jab
    • Grab Release to Ftilt
    • Grab Release to Utilt
    • Grab Release to Uair
    • Grab Release to Nair
    • Grab Release to Bair
    • Grab Release to Dair
    • Grab Release to Fair(its wierd)
    • Grab Release to Egg Lay
    • Grab Release to Footstool
    • Grab Release to Footstool > Dtaunt
    • Grab Release to Footstool > Nair (jablock) > (possible) Nair (Jablocked) > Whatever
    • Grab Release to Small Step Regrab. (Loophole to banned standing infinite)
  35. Wolf
    • Eggroll Beats Wolf's Up B, though it occasionally clanks. If it clanks, the Wolf can jab you before you can him.
  36. Yoshi
  37. Zelda
  38. Zero Suit Samus




Other
This is where everything else goes. Stuff you can almost always do.



  • DoubleJump Canceled Egglay
  • DoubleJump Canceled Egg Toss
  • DoubleJump Canceled Down B
  • DoubleJump Canceled Egg Roll Starts at fullspeed when grounded. Times to use it include:
    • While landing
    • While jumping
    • While Getting up from the ledge
  • DoubleJump Canceled Item Toss
  • Shield grabbing (Its only here cause polt is the only one i ever saw use it)
  • Item toss Oos(omg yoshi has oos options <3)
  • Shield platform drop(omg 2 oos options <333)
  • When you take a hit to your shield and roll backwards you get an extra momentum boost
  • Wavebounced Egglay
  • Wavebounced Egg Toss
  • Egglay Cancel
  • Egglay Footstool
  • You can DJC Egglay after a SH buffered bair or uair
  • Egg Toss Slide (ETS) If you don't know how to do it by now...LOL but heres a vid
  • ETS Ledge Grab
  • Jab Cancel (?)
  • DR Platform Cancel(0:00-0:56)
  • Platform Slide Cancel
  • Moving Platform Cancel
  • Wavebounced Egg Toss Platform drop Lolwut?
  • Infinite Jumping and Super Jumping
  • Shutter Step Fsmash
  • Pivot Jabs/(Ftilt/Dtilt/Uptilt)
  • Ledge canceled Down B
  • Down B SDI teching
  • Ledge Hop Egg Roll
  • Ledge Hop Waveland (And its many many uses)
  • Airwalk Waveland
  • Too Much Ledge options to be mentioned (Just watch it)
  • DR item stuff(So epic)


I'll edit anything you guys post into it. I really wanna see how much useless info we can pile into this one thread. Maybe we can get something good out of it O:
 
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#4
I dug up some random research I did into Egg Roll one time.

Egg Roll Can...

Clank with Rollout

Clank with Sonic's Spin Dashes. If you hit the hop of his >B you trade hits, but Egg Roll's is stronger. Jab after the clank is safe. If he shields, you won't get shield grabbed. If he jabs, you both clank again.

Clank with parts of the PK Kids' PKT2's, but it's really tricky. I wouldn't try it, personally.

Beat Fox's Illusion and Firefox. Firefox will occasionally clank, though if you jab you'll be safe.

Beat Falco's Phantasm and Fire Bird. Same as Fox, you can't even be shield grabbed out of the jab after clank.

Beats Wolf's Up B, though it occasionally clanks. If it clanks, the Wolf can jab you before you can him.
 

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I may as well post some stuff.

Buffered SH Bair (retreating) -> DJC egg lay

Also if peach has a turnip you can't touch her. Your camp game wont work, your grab game won't work, and your approach game won't work. If she doesn't then try to egg lay her if shes in the air and pray she misspaced her Fair.
 

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I may as well post some stuff.

Buffered SH Bair (retreating) -> DJC egg lay

Also if peach has a turnip you can't touch her. Your camp game wont work, your grab game won't work, and your approach game won't work. If she doesn't then try to egg lay her if shes in the air and pray she misspaced her Fair.
That tempts me to ask:

How would Egg Roll fare in this situation? :D
 

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Peach shields it, floats out of shield and Dairs. She can hold items while floating and performing aerials. Hell, she doesn't even need to shield it if she times it right. And turnip collides with egg roll regardless (but I'd rather beat it out with Dair). At the best you'll SDI out and uair for punishment but you'll eat a forward, up, or down throw depending on where you DI after hitting with uair (since uair has cooldown).
 

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dbl cause I feel like it and I'm doing frame data. LilB, you can add this to your guide

CG able characters that ESCAPE the DT options
Charizard
Bowser
Pikachu
Diddy
Link
Sonic
ZSS
C. Falcon
Ike
DK

Grab Release to Dtilt/Ftilt/Dsmash
MK
Lucas (You can Fsmash him from anywhere)
Squirtle
Ganon

Wario can be Fsmashed out of the infinite (standard grab takes 17, Fsmash takes 14). Just makes sure that you angle it up.

I plan on doing alot more so expect lots of edits on this.

Edit 1: Falco AND Ganon can only be Egg layed out of release offstage.
Sheik AND Squirtle CANNOT escape the grab release to Fair offsage.
Wolf AND Fox are immune from anything inesacpeable. However, you can possibly pressure him away to get a efficient gimp kill.

Edit 2: Ness can be Uaired out of release.
There you go.


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Useless trick I've done, aerial egg roll right above ness when he's recovering. When he UpB's you'll get hit (or I was the one time I did it) and be able to recover. You might want to put this under Really stupid tricks since it's obscenely unnecessary but it's all I could remember.
 
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I may as well post some stuff.

Buffered SH Bair (retreating) -> DJC egg lay

Also if peach has a turnip you can't touch her. Your camp game wont work, your grab game won't work, and your approach game won't work. If she doesn't then try to egg lay her if shes in the air and pray she misspaced her Fair.
Ok the egg lay thing was good but im still trying to figure out how peach having a turnip is a yoshi trick

Wolf AND Fox are immune from anything inesacpeable.
Explain?

Edit: I edited the first post
 

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Inb4 Scatz takes over this thread. :yoshi:

Also, Ground Pound on the slanted slopes on Yoshi's Island cancels out the lag.
 

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the ground pound cancel also goes for delfino, lylat (sometimes... it's random as hell. o.O), any drawing on picto that won't directly harm you (as well as its sides), several places on brinstar, Hanenbow (looooool), Distant Planet, the pendulum on Rainbow Cruise at certain angles.... I can't think of anymore legal stages.... -.-
 

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Inb4 Scatz takes over this thread. :yoshi:

Also, Ground Pound on the slanted slopes on Yoshi's Island cancels out the lag.
Haha. Nice one. That's only if I feel like saying that every move is useless and throw all the techs on here except ECE and ETS. Apparently, it's the only moves Yoshi needs from what I hear.


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Haha, I was more or less referring to the huge array of Yoshi AT's you're going to bombard this thread with sooner or later. :yoshi:
 

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trouble with this thread is that you're implying that everything in here is "stupid and useless" =/ probably not the best way to go lol
 

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Time to **** this thread.

Ledge canceled DownB (Done by B-sticking)

Yoshi can go under the stage on Smashville, Delfino, Halberd, Battlefield.

Wavebouncing Egg Throws

Ledge get-up option Egg Roll

DJC Egg Throw

Wavebounced Egg Lay

Infinite Jumping

Super Jumping

Egg Lay FootStool (ELFS)

Egg Lay Cancel

Jab Cancel

K. I'm lazy now. I might send more.

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You can drop from the right ledge of brinstar and double jump onto the stage, your double jump get cancelled at the slope :0
 

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two that i know that scatz forgot were:
>Double Jump Canceled Item Toss (DJCIT)
>Ledge-Hop Cancel (Including the Ledge-Hop Cancel Waveland TEEHEE)

Also the ledge canceled downb is still possible when it comes to canceling the animation of the ground pound without b-sticking, it just takes a hell of a lot more timing, despite it being pretty easy to perform on Final Destination.

Also I'm going to add the:
>Retarded ****ed up Egg Roll "Warp", during the Frigate Orpheon transformation.
 
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LOL that is rediculess. Did anyone find out how it worked, or are there any other vids showing it other than the one with Jiggz. I've kinda been outta the loop for a while.

- Drop off the edge on FD and instantly DJUair under the lip part. The tip of the hitbox will go through the stage and hit the opponant if they are stood there and you will have enough momentum from the DJ to get back to the ledge.

- This is probably not garunteed but Dtilt >DT Dtilt > DT Dtilt on lower percentages works.

- Roll to edge of Yoshis Island, SH and immediatly hold Down and keep tapping B. Thats more just for the lulz.

- Egglay Fox > Usmash > DJC Egglay him again and repeat. His rediculess fall speed means he stays grounded in the egg and the super armour will absorb his attack when he pops out if u do it right.

- Dair > Nair/Uair (Unfortuantly they can and will SDI out so not very useful).

- DownB onto slope and cancel slide with DR.

- Yoshi's Island, DownB onto central platform when it is titled and perform an aerial as u drop off the platform. If you do it with the opponant in the right position you can catch them in the stars and followup with the aerial. Character dependant.

- Yoshi's Island, similar trick... DownB when platform is slanted and input a DJCEgglay in the opposite direction to the one you slid in as fast as possible after the DownB.

- Battlefield, if you do a grounded DownB on the floor of the stage under the high middle platform you will be able to just catch an opponant on the platform. Makes for a nice supprise KO.

- Any stage with platforms, run off the end of a platform and input a DJC Egglay in the opposite direction as quickly as possible.

- Not really anything of note but... Yoshi doesn't get punished for grabbing ICs cos Down throw avoids the other climbers attack.

- Has no one mentioned Grab release > Usmash on Wario yet? =/

Thats all I can think of off-hand. I will maybe go to training mode later and post some more I remember.

EDIT: That thing Scatz pointed out the other day, SH Eggtoss > Usmash and other stuff.
 

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i think silly is a more appropriate word then stupid, also we have a gurented fair after off stage grab release
the definition of silly according to dictionary.com:
1. weak-minded or lacking good sense; stupid or foolish: a silly writer.
2. absurd; ridiculous; irrational: a silly idea.

silly is just a stronger form of stupid.

and it's GUARANTEED*, sir. I know you're not trolling with that kind of misspelling.

and we ALREADY said that it's not guaranteed, so get with the times. we have the frame data to disprove it.
 
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Isn't it guaranteed on Falco?
We have fair on sheik and squirtle, and egg lay on falco and ganon. I think I spelled squirtle wrong ._.

And I've landed grab release fairs on fox's before just because they jump into it because of how fast fox falls. I'm pretty sure they could shine to cancel their downward momentum can then jump back. But anyway grab releasing a fox at the end of the stage definitely puts him in a bad position.
 
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