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Starcraft 2 (Info on first post!)
- Thread starter JTB
- Start date
but can u imagine your in-game if u could never make anything isolated
but yea like
i just feel like going through the process even if it's by myself will help me to avoid things like COMPLETELY freezing up at the 8 minute mark. ive noticed that by practicing my 1/1/1 BO by myself that i can do the first 5-6 minutes of the game super fast and comfortably even with a little pressure. but from there im like derp da derp
It's mostly just practice so that you DON'T mess up in competitions. I practice all the time, but in shooting competitions, I almost always do worse than my average.
Besides, he's just essentially talking about using hotkeys, which he already practices. Hotkey practice can only be taken so far, and from that point on, it is up to the player to consistently perform commands during an actual match. Why not practice them in a match, then?
But to be honest, it's his choice as to how he actually spends his time...
i'm talking about trying to enforce yourself to remember things like:
- keep money low
- never getting supply blocked
- constant scv production
- using hotkeys
- using control groups properly
- rallying properly
- never quenue'ing up too many units
- getting use to pumping out a constant army
- expanding
- learning the map and figuring out choke points
- remembering to do upgrades
- practice making wall-ins or defense choke holds
etc. etc.
i feel like just running through those motions by myself over and over will make me more comfortable when i get into it in a real game. right now im at the point where im like if i reach a certain point in the game i become really lost. like i know the general idea of what im suppose to do but im not sure how to execute it and in trying to figure out how to execute it my macro goes to hell in the process
- keep money low
- never getting supply blocked
- constant scv production
- using hotkeys
- using control groups properly
- rallying properly
- never quenue'ing up too many units
- getting use to pumping out a constant army
- expanding
- learning the map and figuring out choke points
- remembering to do upgrades
- practice making wall-ins or defense choke holds
etc. etc.
i feel like just running through those motions by myself over and over will make me more comfortable when i get into it in a real game. right now im at the point where im like if i reach a certain point in the game i become really lost. like i know the general idea of what im suppose to do but im not sure how to execute it and in trying to figure out how to execute it my macro goes to hell in the process
Kenrawr
Smash Master
yeah i don't see what's wrong with omni's idea either. let him work on playing under pressure later. he's still pretty new to the game.
If you believe that top SC players don't / didn't spend an obscene amount of time just practicing macro / micro control you're kidding yourself.
Ladder's pretty much the best place to practice competitive play without having to participate in a tournament/showmatch/whatever where you have to deal with actual competitive players along with potential spectators. As if it actually counts toward anything but a record of wins and losses that, hilariously enough, won't even count losses once v1.3 is released.
I'm absolutely serious about the advice I gave; in the games I played with Omni, all I did was make units until I maxed out (or until he attacked), no interruptions or actual pressure until he initiated the battle. His macro seemed fine up until the point where he realized it's a game of Starcraft and not IIDX (around the point where he'd scan my army). I don't know how practicing playing out an entire 15 minutes isolated is going to be an improvement over practicing playing out 8 minutes isolated and then scanning Roaches and suddenly freezing up because he needs to think about what counters Roaches (and as I replied back then, "Terran units"). What I believe he needs to get right now is beating the apparent phobia of not playing perfectly against a human being and the sense to just do the usual stuff if unsure about "best responses" in a game that doesn't really emphasize hard unit counters until the upper tiers of skill.
I'm absolutely serious about the advice I gave; in the games I played with Omni, all I did was make units until I maxed out (or until he attacked), no interruptions or actual pressure until he initiated the battle. His macro seemed fine up until the point where he realized it's a game of Starcraft and not IIDX (around the point where he'd scan my army). I don't know how practicing playing out an entire 15 minutes isolated is going to be an improvement over practicing playing out 8 minutes isolated and then scanning Roaches and suddenly freezing up because he needs to think about what counters Roaches (and as I replied back then, "Terran units"). What I believe he needs to get right now is beating the apparent phobia of not playing perfectly against a human being and the sense to just do the usual stuff if unsure about "best responses" in a game that doesn't really emphasize hard unit counters until the upper tiers of skill.
Sure they do, but mostly in actual games.
Oh well, I guess that it'll help him a bit, but I still think that real matches are the way to go. However, it's his decision.
It won't? That's weird.
Edit: Sveet, I will be waiting in the actual game, if you come on here first.
Yeah, gotta make sure those little kids playing the ladder don't get their feelings hurt when they're 4 - 25, right?
General
* Leagues & Ladders
o A new Grandmaster League has been added for 1v1 ladders. This league represents the Top 200 players in each region.
+ Players are automatically drafted into the Grandmaster League shortly after a new season starts, and will remain in the Grandmaster League until the end of the season. If a Grandmaster player’s available bonus points get too high due to inactivity, they will be automatically removed from the league and a replacement player will be drafted in.
+ The Grandmaster League can be viewed by all players through the new Leagues & Ladders > Grandmaster page
.
o The bonus pool has been reduced for arranged teams.
o Leagues will now be locked during the final weeks of the season. As a result players will not accumulate additional bonus points and will not be promoted or demoted out of their current division during this period.
+ This will allow players to focus on moving up in their current league without being promoted during the final weeks of a season, and having to fight their way up from the bottom ranks of their new higher league.
+ Players can still utilize any bonus points they previously accumulated.
o Ladder data from the prior season can be viewed through the new Leagues & Ladders > Last Season page.
o New league icons have been introduced to indicate division rank. These will indicate the Top 8, 25 and 50 players in each division.
o Loss counts are no longer displayed in Profile and Ladder pages for players below Master League.
General
* Leagues & Ladders
o A new Grandmaster League has been added for 1v1 ladders. This league represents the Top 200 players in each region.
+ Players are automatically drafted into the Grandmaster League shortly after a new season starts, and will remain in the Grandmaster League until the end of the season. If a Grandmaster player’s available bonus points get too high due to inactivity, they will be automatically removed from the league and a replacement player will be drafted in.
+ The Grandmaster League can be viewed by all players through the new Leagues & Ladders > Grandmaster page
.
o The bonus pool has been reduced for arranged teams.
o Leagues will now be locked during the final weeks of the season. As a result players will not accumulate additional bonus points and will not be promoted or demoted out of their current division during this period.
+ This will allow players to focus on moving up in their current league without being promoted during the final weeks of a season, and having to fight their way up from the bottom ranks of their new higher league.
+ Players can still utilize any bonus points they previously accumulated.
o Ladder data from the prior season can be viewed through the new Leagues & Ladders > Last Season page.
o New league icons have been introduced to indicate division rank. These will indicate the Top 8, 25 and 50 players in each division.
o Loss counts are no longer displayed in Profile and Ladder pages for players below Master League.
Nasty_Nate
Smash Lord
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lmao ****en rediculous
Rofl, that's terrible. Why they would do that is completely beyond me.
Roman.
Smash Champion
those seem like fun changes =D
Sveet, I'm gone. My parents made me get off the comp.
I sent messages on Skype, the game, AND on here (my earlier post), so unless you have a reason for why you didn't play or even bother responding, I quit. This is just too much bs.
If you had to work late, study, or were really tired, I can understand, and I won't quit. But come on man, you could have at least replied.
I sent messages on Skype, the game, AND on here (my earlier post), so unless you have a reason for why you didn't play or even bother responding, I quit. This is just too much bs.
If you had to work late, study, or were really tired, I can understand, and I won't quit. But come on man, you could have at least replied.
Roman.
Smash Champion
is it just me or didn't sveet say 830pm central which is 1130 (assuming your est)... maybe that's why he isn't on...
Central is one time zone away and to the left, so there's a one hour difference. Besides, he was online on both skype and sc. >_>
Really, I'm just waiting to hear his reason because I hate being mad at someone. Hopefully he has a good one.
Really, I'm just waiting to hear his reason because I hate being mad at someone. Hopefully he has a good one.
Overswarm
is laughing at you
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- Messages
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20676635/OS v Nashun.zip
Here are some friendlies between me and Nashun. We played on several maps and did a lot of unique strategies back and forth, so this can give you a good idea of the diversity of ZvP.
Here are some friendlies between me and Nashun. We played on several maps and did a lot of unique strategies back and forth, so this can give you a good idea of the diversity of ZvP.
Fortress | Sveet
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my boss asked me to close instead of working til 8. i got home around 9:45.
Fortress | Sveet
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To werekill: I didnt get a time from you today ahead of time so i will be on around 4pm for a brief time and then again after about 9pm. I will check to see if you are on, but if not i will conduct my business and head out. mucho homeworko to do (and probably taking 2 tests today)
There's something satisfying about seeing an absurd number of Colossi shooting down a base. I think it's the lasers.
EnigmaticCam
Smash Ace
Ok, no problem. Hey, as long as you have a reason like that, I'm happy.
I'll try my best to be online at 5 (est, for you 4), but if I'm not, just take the win. I won't be able to play later.
Roman.
Smash Champion
cynan i've been looking for you for a couple nights... when's the next time you'll be on?
says you haven't played a match in 4 days so i hope you're still around
says you haven't played a match in 4 days so i hope you're still around
M@v
Subarashii!
The warp prism is like WTF DO I DO?!?!There's something satisfying about seeing an absurd number of Colossi shooting down a base. I think it's the lasers.
Shweet. I checked its actually a 3v3 or 4v4, so we need to find 1 or 2 more people.
Sveet, I won't be on right at 5 since I have to drop my little brother off at Karate. I'll be on right after I get back, and it won't take long.
Fortress | Sveet
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i'll stick around til 5pm my time. I havetohavetohavetohaveto leave by then though, or i wont finish this class.
Sveet beat me 2-0. GGs, I guess.
Oh, no, I just lost even worse than I expected, lol. They were ggs, though.
Now it's time to finally focus on my zerg without worrying about the toss for this tourney. ^_^
Yo if we're talking about a repeat of the Mono-Character 3's/4's Funday Monday, count me in. Just as long as you promise never to do the Archon/Reaper/Medivac/Corruptor combination (theoretically the worst possible combination to set up while still including all 3 races and having a unique unit for each player).
It's pretty much the most popular Funday Monday to play.
Get a 3v3 or 4v4 group together.
At the beginning of a game, publicly (Alltalk) announce which unit you're going.
With some exceptions, you are only allowed to make that unit for the remainder of the game.
EXCEPTIONS:
All worker units
Overlords
Queens, but you may not (intentionally) attack with them (unless you picked Queens as your unit)
High Templars/Corruptors/Zerglings for Archons/Brood Lords/Banelings, but you may not spellcast or attack with the beginning forms (unless, of course, you picked them as your unit) (in which case you may not morph them)
As Day[9] put it, "Well darn, his Vikings are killing all my Brood Lords. I guess I better make some more Brood Lords!"
Get a 3v3 or 4v4 group together.
At the beginning of a game, publicly (Alltalk) announce which unit you're going.
With some exceptions, you are only allowed to make that unit for the remainder of the game.
EXCEPTIONS:
All worker units
Overlords
Queens, but you may not (intentionally) attack with them (unless you picked Queens as your unit)
High Templars/Corruptors/Zerglings for Archons/Brood Lords/Banelings, but you may not spellcast or attack with the beginning forms (unless, of course, you picked them as your unit) (in which case you may not morph them)
As Day[9] put it, "Well darn, his Vikings are killing all my Brood Lords. I guess I better make some more Brood Lords!"
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Hey folks, I'll play you all when i get my comp back.
Sound like fun! If anyone wants to try that this weekend, I'm game.
Edit: Ninja'd~
Edit: Ninja'd~
M@v
Subarashii!
Ill be on in a couple hours is people are down.
Updated bracket btw
Cynan Machae
Smash Journeyman
I haven't been playing much lately, but don't worry, I'll be on, just tell me whenever you can. If tomorrow evening is good for you it would be perfect.