Stand Tall and Proud like the Trophies in Brawl: New sSE Details

[Misto-Roboto]

<p align="center"><img src="http://smashboards.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sse_update_trophystand.png" alt="Trophy Update" align="middle" border="0" height="180" width="425" /></p>
So new information has surfaced about Brawl’s Subspace Emissary Adventure, but at the same time he also clued us in how trophies in this game will work. With the setup Sakurai has going, Smash players of all kinds will be itching to replay this mode again and again.<!--more-->
<p align="center"><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226g-l.jpg" alt="This is by far the nastiest looking enemy I have ever seen..." align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">It seems the intent of Sakurai is to make Subspace Emissary just as central as the multiplayer aspect of Brawl. Trophies being earned through the use of trophy stands as if they were Pokéballs is the basic idea of this update.</p>
<p align="center"> <img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226b-l.jpg" alt="Kirby finds himself once again mesmerized by the shine of a trophy stand." align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">Much like in Pokémon one is required to weaken the enemy significantly in order to turn them into a trophy and capture them.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226c-l.jpg" alt="Gotaa catch 'em all!" align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">If you happen to have a trophy stand with you and you weaken it enough, you can turn that enemy into a trophy by throwing said trophy stand at it.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226d-l.jpg" alt="Go Pokébal-err.. I mean Trophy Stand!" align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">If you succeed in your attempt of it taking it out a loud thud will take place.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226e-l.jpg" alt="BA-BOMB!" align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">And the Poké-err… Trophy is for you to scoop up.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226f-l.jpg" alt="Kirby can't decide whether he wants to eat it or collect, oh the choices..." align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">With the prospects of learning more about the back story about the Subspace Emissary one has even more incentive to collect these trophies and learn the purpose of the enemy who has entangled the very world of Smash.</p>
<p align="center"> <img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226a-l.jpg" alt="See, size does matter in Japan..." align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
<p align="center">And then there are the sSE Bosses…</p>
<p align="center"><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/modea11_071226h-l.jpg" alt="So, now instead of using Pokéballs, you used gold plated discs to change them into trophies..." align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>

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Since you can’t get these trophies if you don’t have a trophy stand, pure skill is not enough-it requires a little luck, too.

I’ll make it so you’ll somehow be allowed to fight the bosses even after you’ve already cleared the game, so it’s OK if you don’t hunt all these trophies down in the first battle.

</blockquote>
<p align="center">It appears that bosses will be, but are not required to beaten through use of the trophy stands. I’m really interested to see how this trophy making will fit into the whole story. Maybe the Emissary will be sealed back into a trophy again in the end, but then, who knows?</p>

 

[Kittah4]

Quite interesting, reminds me, like you said, of Pokeballs, which makes it amusing that for bosses they chose Rayquaza to demonstrate. Whats the smash meter on the left, is that the current stock? I forget.

 

[Deleted member]

Yup, looks like a stock meter.

Badass pokeballs ftw!

 

[Penguyen]

See it in action at 1:34 http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26644.html

 

[quithas]

Awesome

Dude Im gonna cry wish this game came out on the third of this month. I really cant wait any longer this game is gonna be so cool. Well Iguess I have to wait dawell I believe the wait will be worth wait. Thank you Misto for an awesome post and thank you Mic for your awesome posts aswell I love the comments wit the pics. I just wish it was one of you guys who did the Kriby move post.

 

[Mad555]

*raises hand*

Im gonna love playing SSE over & over & over again,

Your right, turning SSE enemies into trophies is exactly like trying to catch a pokemon.

 

[Kittah4]

But there are some questions!

1) How does turning guys into trophy differ from what Wario and Bowser are trying to do? They have, essentially, TROPHY STAND GUNS.

2) Is there a trophy of the trophy stand? The mind boggles!

 

[Caleb Wolfbrand]

did anybody else notice the Japanese site has the box art on it now???


I like that Sakurai is giving us "a way to play the bosses" whenever we want

 

[Nilok]

So apparently the Primids are closer to puppets that are moved by the "Shadow Bugs"?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

But there are some questions!

1) How does turning guys into trophy differ from what Wario and Bowser are trying to do? They have, essentially, TROPHY STAND GUNS.

2) Is there a trophy of the trophy stand? The mind boggles!

The SE are using the characters trophies as power, not letting them transform back into fighters...

and all enemies just turn back into trophies when they are defeated anyway

 

[Misto-Roboto]

The SE are using the characters trophies as power, not letting them transform back into fighters...

and all enemies just turn back into trophies when they are defeated anyway

No they aren't.

 

[Nilok]

The SE are using the characters trophies as power, not letting them transform back into fighters...

and all enemies just turn back into trophies when they are defeated anyway

I doubt that, seeing how they are controlled by the "Shadow Bugs", the Shadow Bugs may simply leave the shell and wait until they are sent out again. Turning them into a trophy may seal away the Shadow Bugs or something.

 

[Magmar's Wrath]

I always wonder about people who defend the mindless evils in video games and say the heroes are worse than them. Do they truly believe that, or is it just to ruffle feathers?

 

[linkrulezz]

did anybody else notice the Japanese site has the box art on it now???


I like that Sakurai is giving us "a way to play the bosses" whenever we want

your right i knew it wasnt fake

 

[SmashBro99]

Gotta' Catch Em All!

 

[Terrorcon Blot]

Finally. I was full of rage back when E4All hit and everyone called the trophy stand a "coin".

 

[d0c926]

I really like this update, making trophy collecting more fun, and Rayquaza as boss is going be fun

 

[Silent_X]

You know there have been many games where a side goal is to weaken enemies and capture them in some way. This often leads to getting info about them.
Sound familiar?

It's not like you are going to be raising and battling the trophies.

I wonder if we'll have a boss fighting mode now?

 

[Royboy]

if Sakurai follow the Kirby games, we'll have a "fight all bosses with one life" mode

and finally Pokémon will have their revenge catching other creatures (Pikachu throwing around trophies bases like a mad =))

 

[Silent_X]

if Sakurai follow the Kirby games, we'll have a "fight all bosses with one life" mode

and finally Pokémon will have their revenge catching other creatures (Pikachu throwing around trophies bases like a mad =))

Catching other creatures means they're traitors.
Getting revenge would involve throwing a trophy stand at pokemon trainer.

 

[oxyborb]

I wonder if Wario and Bowser are infected with Shadow Bugs?

 

[Royboy]

in friday footage, when there is a lot of purple stuff at 0:22 (i think they are shadow bugs) if you stop you see diddy behind them, so i think it's the moment when bowser appear. Maybe it isn't bowser, it's his trophy infected with shadow bugs, an that's what the SSArmy want to do, so they use the Trophy gun to control the other fighters too.

 

[Silent_X]

You know Kirby didn't damage the Towtow that much before peach successfully threw the trophy base at it.

 

[Nietendodude]

Hey does anyone know what the heck are Shadow bugs?

it Talks about them in the Big Primid pic.

 

[XACE-K]

Hey does anyone know what the heck are Shadow bugs?

it Talks about them in the Big Primid pic.

I'm gussing Shadow Bugs are the purple things that form the Primid.

 

[Smile Guy]

in friday footage, when there is a lot of purple stuff at 0:22 (i think they are shadow bugs) if you stop you see diddy behind them, so i think it's the moment when bowser appear. Maybe it isn't bowser, it's his trophy infected with shadow bugs, an that's what the SSArmy want to do, so they use the Trophy gun to control the other fighters too.

You know what? I think you've got it!

That theory makes perfect sense. To elaborate...

- Shadow Bugs come from the Subspace Emissary where some mysterious force is trying to take over the Smash universe (Master Hand?).
- Shadow Bugs are what Primids are made of so naturally more Shadow Bugs are needed to make a bigger Primid.
- Shadow Bugs can also infect/possess characters but only when they are in trophy form thus a character needs to turn into a trophy then turned back to become an evil version of themselves...
- ... This is what the fates of Wario, Bowser, Rayquaza (and maybe Meta Knight) are but if they are defeated they can become good again.
- If you save Peach, then Zelda becomes evil. If you save Zelda, then Peach becomes evil. And you'll have to fight one of them at a later point during the adventure.

But what of the first mysterious quotation Sakurai ever gave us regarding the Subspace Emissary?

When someone...or something...breaks those rules, the world will pay a terrible price...

It makes me think of that Doctor Who episode where the rules of time travel are broken and they start to be invaded by those gremlin like creatures who were "Time Guards" or something like that.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'm probably guessing that Subspace Bosses will be WAY harder to capture with trophy stands. Even if their health is very low, they could still break free from the stands.

Basic enemies would be easy to catch though.

 

[shipoffools]

replay value just got a thousand times greater than it was

 

[Link Sharingan]

the diferences on the Trophy gun and Trophy stand is that the gun dont need to week the oponent to catch it

 

[NukeA6]

They added some Pokemon feel to Subspace. Will there be a boss rush (something that was in Kirby Super Star, Metal Gear Solid, and several other games). I wonder how many bosses are in the game. I'm just gonna think 5 so I will be satisfied when I find out there are more.

 

[Dais]

Replay Value for adventure mode confirmed.

 

[Penguyen]

Finally. I was full of rage back when E4All hit and everyone called the trophy stand a "coin".

I thought it looked alot like one before although i was corrected in the coin discussion thread...

 

[Old Man Nintendo]

This is a really cool update! Based on this video at 1:35 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26644.html) it looks like the AI knows exactly how and when to use the Trophy Stands, which was a concern for me when I was first reading about this update on the Dojo. It doesn't look like there is any way to tell your teammate to hold on to a stand until an enemy you don't have a trophy for appears... but I hope that the AI knows what was captured and what wasn't.

~Old Man Nintendo

PS - 100th Post!!!

 

[maxpower1227]

Ability to replay SE bosses on command FOR THE WIN

 

[Silent_X]

Anyone here play the elder scrolls games?

In the fourth installment you can capture the souls of monsters to help you enchant items. You use soul gems to do this.

Now you can not catch any NPC that is one of the playable races with a regular soul gem. For their souls are protected by one of the gods(can't remember which one).

But there are these Black souls gems with the power to ensnare these sentient souls. These Black soul gems and necromancy in general are shunned in the game's world.

I'm going to guess the difference between trophy stands and the trophy guns are going to be similar to the soul gems and their black counterparts. In that the trophy guns can capture the PCs.

Notice in the video where wario uses the gun on Zelda the trophy is grey.

 

[darkshy]

Gotta' Catch Em All!

My thoughts exactley!!!!
But I like this idea it sounds cool.

 

[Frogla]

This is a really cool update! Based on this video at 1:35 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26644.html) it looks like the AI knows exactly how and when to use the Trophy Stands, which was a concern for me when I was first reading about this update on the Dojo. It doesn't look like there is any way to tell your teammate to hold on to a stand until an enemy you don't have a trophy for appears... but I hope that the AI knows what was captured and what wasn't.

~Old Man Nintendo

PS - 100th Post!!!

Thats not Ai thats p2. There is no Ai for a team mate. Because if you dont have a freind you us 1 charachter at a time.

 

[AllanT]

wow at first this update seemed like crap-- but it's actually really good!

rayquaza, boss confirmed!
shadow bugs?
new way to collect trophies...
cover art is available to see on the japanese site!! brawl HAS gone gold!!

 

[MajinNecro69]

Perhaps the trophy gun is a "violent" way of turning characters into trophies, whereas the disk is the "non-violent" way of turning characters into trophies (since they don't tear up the victim's insides like an arrow gun...)...

 

[Shiny Ivysaur]

OMG!
When will the drought EVER end?
I mean, seriously. Who hadn't figured out from the e4all vid posted on the first page that the "coin" turned things into trophies. All we learned is its name and that there would be big primids. And we all figured that we'd get some form of classic Wario. We haven't gotten any new information in months!!!!!!

Spoiler

[/sarcasm]