Noa.
Smash Master
~ Welcome to the Ness Boards Matchup Directory ~
The purpose of this thread is to be a hub for all matchup discussion. Any general matchup advice or questions should be placed in this thread. There are also links to specific matchup discussion threads that the Ness boards have discussed together.
The game is new and the metagame is constantly changing. With over 50 characters are understanding of matchups will change greatly over time. We will do our best to keep up to date on the most relevant matchups.
Information Wanted:
How to contribute to this discussion? Post anything you think you find useful in the matchups that are being discussed. Any experience is experience and all input is welcome. Feel free to disagree with anything anyone posts, but please be ready and willing to explain and discuss everything that you post. We want posts with substance and reasoning, rather than "Ness wins" or "Down B > Energy Projectiles." Video evidence is greatly appreciated.
General Rules:
- No flaming, please, from either side of the discussion spectrum. Everyone enjoys their own character and has varying degrees of experience. We will have people from different character sub-forums joining in on the discussion. Let them feel welcome.
- When discussing match-ups we must assume that both players are playing each character to their utmost potential always. (This also means without lag)
Matchup Scale:
0 Even: Neither character has a complete advantage over the other
+1 Small Advantage / -1 Small Disadvantage: Mostly even, but one character has a definite edge. It's very small, but definitely there. It shouldn't affect tournament results unless both players are the same skill level.
+2 Solid Advantage / -2 Solid Disadvantage: Counter. Difficult matchup but still perfectly winnable You have to be better than your opponent to win, but not that much better really.
+3 Large Advantage / -3 Large Disadvantage: Hard counter. Really difficult matchup. You have to be much better than your opponent to win this matchup in a tournament set. A secondary is not absolutely required, but is definitely recommended.
Ness Boards Matchup chart:
At this point it only contains 12 characters, who were all deemed the most important matchups in the metagame at the point of the chart's creation. We will add more characters over time. This chart was created from these votes.
Diddy|+1|-1|+1|+1|0|0|0|0|-1|0|0|-1
Sheik|-1|-1|-2|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|-1|/|-1|-1
Falcon|0|+1|0|+1|0|+1|+1|+1|0|-1|+1|+1
Mario|0|+1|+1|0|+1|+1|0|0|+1|0|+1|+1
Sonic|-1|-2|0|-2|-1|-2|-1|-1|-2|-2|-1|-2
Fox|0|0|0|+2|0|0|+1|0|+1|/|+1|0
Yoshi|0|0|-1|0|0|0|0|0|0|-1|0|+1
Luigi|-1|-1|-1|+1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0
Rosalina|-2|-2|-2|-2|-1|-1|-1|-2|-1|/|-1|0
ZSS|0|+1|+1|+1|+1|+1|+1|+1|+1|-1|+1|0
Pikachu|+1|+1|+1|+2|+1|0|0|0|+1|+1|0|+1
EDIT: Changes made to Luigi and Rosalina after further discussion.
Matchup Discussion Links:
: Discussion : Discussion: Discussion: DiscussionArt Credit goes to EvilApple513
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) and our edge-guarding game against him I think can only be developed, whilst he's one of the few characters that doesn't totally have a field day with us while we're offstage. I especially think that now with Uair not killing until post 130/140%, we now only really have to look out for things like banana ---> smashes and Fair and... that's about it, actually. If he takes rocketbarrel attack instead of normal upB for killing power then take lasting PKT and ruin his life offstage. His grab game combos really hard but if we're surviving considerably longer then rage will almost certainly play a part in our kills on this monkey, whilst he shouldn't be living too far past 120% himself.
