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Spongebob Squarepants getting a second movie.
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finalark
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I'm going to be a naysayer and openly admit that Spongebob should have ended when the first movie came out, even if I do like a few of the post-movie episodes.
And the trailer for the sequel literally advertises the film as a rehash of the first one.
And the trailer for the sequel literally advertises the film as a rehash of the first one.
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Who cares Spongebob went downhill after the first movie
finalark
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Nick will consider ending the show once it stops making them truck-loads of money.
FirestormNeos
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If I was happy about them getting a second movie, I wouldn't have put the picture of Patrick sitting there, shocked.
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Eh... the first one sucked tbh. Hope this one is go- who am i kidding
RoxburyGuy58
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Oh god why.
Also:
Also:
Hey, it was a fun movie. Don't tell me you watched a Spongebob movie expecting it to have an involved and well-thought-out plot?
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Incorrect.
FirestormNeos
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"Don't tell me you watched a Spongebob movie expecting it to have an involved and well-thought-out plot?"
I hate when someone ignores 90% of the goddamn post.
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hopefully it isn't CGI
FirestormNeos
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Then why did you decide not to quote it?
What's the matter, scared?
What's wrong with CGI (other then the fact that Spongebob would look hideous in it)?
Anyways, I doubt it. Nick isn't that sadistic toward kids.
finalark
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CGI is a the cancer of animation and unlike traditional animation it all looks the ****ing same.
Correct.
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because yolo
Claire Diviner
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Wow! My thoughts exactly. The problem is that Stephen Hillenburg is now just an executive producer since the release of the first movie, and Derek Drymon is no longer directing episodes (Vincent Waller is the current director). Another problem stems from the fact that the first movie was meant to be a series finale, but Nickelodeon thought "hey, this makes us money! Let's keep making more!". So the result was Nick milking the franchise for everything they can get out of it, resulting in stale episodes, stale in quality, and stale in jokes, with the rare "gem" for an episode ("The Two Faces of Squidward" being my personal favorite of the post movie episodes).
FirestormNeos
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finalark
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I still stand by what I said.
Not to mention that Pixar's movies have been going downhill since Cars 2 anyway.
FirestormNeos
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The only Pixar film that has ever managed to not satisfy my expectations for Pixar was Brave.
And why does everything looking the same piss off the hardcore movie goers? I'm pretty sure if all movies were trying to pull a Portal by doing something "radically different and unheard of," we'd effectively kill off the casual base.
SOUND FAMILIAR, ANYONE?
finalark
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If you're referring to Avatar, most "hardcore" movie goers (myself included) hated that movie.
FirestormNeos
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I put Avatar into the same boat as Transformers, not in the "snooty, artistic, critically acclaimed" films we hear Indie Fanboys rag on about.
If this keeps up, we're going to end up back in the olden days of Hollywood: No Sequels, Art Only, Final Destination.
If there's one time to quote a generic Disney flick from 2005 (*COUGH*meettherobinsons*COUGH*), it would be here.
finalark
SNORLAX
I'm really not sure what your point is anymore, but the early day of Hollywood had sequels out the ass, especially for horror films.
FirestormNeos
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Earlier then those days.
finalark
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I'm still not sure what point you're grabbing at.
FirestormNeos
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neither am I.
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Claire Diviner
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Is SprongeBob Squarepants still relevant enough to warrant a sequel to the first movie with a budget of about $100 million? I mean, if the series is still a big money maker for Nickelodeon despite the decline in ratings, then perhaps the standards for Nick shows have really taken a nose dive... or maybe there's something I'm not seeing.
The Golden Donald
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Nothing wrong, either kids movies and children's programming as the incarnation of the sponge. I then preconceive a huge box office success
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Hey. Maybe the guy in charge of being funny will leave after this movie again and a person actually good at it will take his place.
FirestormNeos
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theeboredone
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I really started to hate the series when the characters and their personalities went to the extreme. They don't hesitate to over characterize Spongebob and Patrick. Further making it evident by drawing them with exaggerated smiles and dimples.
finalark
SNORLAX
Pretty much every character in Spongebob has had their personality grossly exaggerated. Mr. Krabbs was greedy in early episodes, but he still had other, positive aspects of his personality to balance it out like being a father figure to Spongebob or even just being a good father to Pearl. Hell, even when his greed got the better of him in early episodes he still got his comeuppance. These days Krabb's money fetish is pretty much his only personality trait.
That's not even going into how horribly they mutilated the rest of the cast, or how disconnected Sandy is from the rest of the cast now.
Claire Diviner
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Mr. Krabs and Squidward were my favorite characters, the former for the reasons finalark gave, and the latter for being such a realistic character, and having enough seriousness to balance out the stupidity of other characters (SpongeBob and Patrick mostly). On top of that, I felt like I could really relate to Squidward because he was a serious character, liked peace and quiet, yet has ambitions to become successful (even if he fails at it most of the time). His narcissism was the only thing I didn't relate to, but whatever.
Now, he's just very unlikable. His narcissism has been jacked up 3-fold, and his serious-type character has been replaced by a crass and snobbish jerk. Sure he was always sort of a jerk pre-movie, but at least he had a sense of being apologetic, unlike now where he simply can give less of a damn. There's only one gem I can think of where Squidward had a little bit of the qualities I liked, and that was "The Two Faces of Squidward", as mentioned before.
Now, he's just very unlikable. His narcissism has been jacked up 3-fold, and his serious-type character has been replaced by a crass and snobbish jerk. Sure he was always sort of a jerk pre-movie, but at least he had a sense of being apologetic, unlike now where he simply can give less of a damn. There's only one gem I can think of where Squidward had a little bit of the qualities I liked, and that was "The Two Faces of Squidward", as mentioned before.
finalark
SNORLAX
Claire pretty much hit the nail on the head, Mr. Krabbs and Squidward were hands-down the best characters in the show and my personal favorites as well. But now they're shadows of what they were initially characterized to be.
I believe that in a series once every story worth telling with the given setting and characters has been told and there is nothing left you can get out of it then it's time to shut the door on that creation. Sadly, Nick seems to disagree with me.
I believe that in a series once every story worth telling with the given setting and characters has been told and there is nothing left you can get out of it then it's time to shut the door on that creation. Sadly, Nick seems to disagree with me.
The Fail Tracer
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Yeah...
Unfortunately, I guess there's a lot of greed in the way, and people seem to forget about effort and quality when there's money involved.
And sequels are bad to begin with. Quite a shame that movies that don't deserve the hype for a sequel in the first place get one anyway.
finalark
SNORLAX
I actually highly disagree with this. I think if a sequel can expand on the world and characters presented in the first film, whilst continuing the story, they're good. However, sequels become bad when they add nothing to what was there before and simply rehash the previous film.
The Fail Tracer
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Well, sorry for generalizing. I went too far by not putting "most" or "some" in that, I will admit. There have been some sequels I liked, but those usually seemed to have actually been planned, as well as being part of a trilogy or something like that. Back to the Future was a great trilogy (IMO, obviously), and I'm pretty sure that was planned.
Then again, there are sequels that just aren't likeable... I kinda liked Home Alone 2, but then I didn't enjoy the third movie at all. I just don't like the idea of people going on and on with something when the original idea was so good that it would totally have worked as a standalone. And going back to when I talked about planning things ahead, I was meaning to say that I simply don't care for the creators being all, "Suddenly I have a feeling we can really outdo ourselves... with a tasteless second film!" I think it's just so much better when it's more like, "Well, we can't fit the WHOLE story into this one movie, why don't we just try to put it into different parts?".
Once again, sorry for stereotyping. I know not all sequels are bad.
Then again, there are sequels that just aren't likeable... I kinda liked Home Alone 2, but then I didn't enjoy the third movie at all. I just don't like the idea of people going on and on with something when the original idea was so good that it would totally have worked as a standalone. And going back to when I talked about planning things ahead, I was meaning to say that I simply don't care for the creators being all, "Suddenly I have a feeling we can really outdo ourselves... with a tasteless second film!" I think it's just so much better when it's more like, "Well, we can't fit the WHOLE story into this one movie, why don't we just try to put it into different parts?".
Once again, sorry for stereotyping. I know not all sequels are bad.
Claire Diviner
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Not all surprise sequels are all that bad. Look at Toy Story 2: that movie was originally going to be a straight-to-video release, but Pixar thought the quality was good enough for a theatrical release, and it's now considered by many (myself included) to be a superior film to the already phenomenal first one.
The problem I have with this new SpongeBob movie, is that it will not be written or directed by the same writers and directors responsible for the first film (and the pre-film episodes for that matter), meaning the humor and character portrayals will reflect that of the post movie episodes. I do hope I'm wrong though.
The problem I have with this new SpongeBob movie, is that it will not be written or directed by the same writers and directors responsible for the first film (and the pre-film episodes for that matter), meaning the humor and character portrayals will reflect that of the post movie episodes. I do hope I'm wrong though.
