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Sothe for brawl.

LukeFonFabre

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I haven't played PoR so I'm not sure if it's shown in there, but what kind of Lord is Elincia. All the art I've seen of her doesn't really suggest any type of class to me.
 

xianfeng

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She is Princess Crimea so she is like a lord in FE9 (if she dies it's game over) but most people don't consider her one. In FE10 her class will be Queen Crimea, before promotion she has a Pegasus with a sword and after promotion she gains staves. She can also participate in the triangle attack.
 

Brawlmatt202

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I have been obsessed with Sothe ever seen I found out about his appearence in FE for the Wii! I bet he'd be awesome!
 

flammableoranges

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Sothe was like my favourite character from Path of Radiance, but god **** idiot couldn't upgrade to assassin. It'd be cool if he got in, but theres other characters from FE which I'm sure have more priority.
 

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In my Opinion, Brawl Could potentialy have a 4 FE characters.

If I had to make a List of Importance

- Ike *
- Marth
- The Black Knight *
- Micaiah *
- Sothe *
- Sigrud
- Lyn
- Hector

* Are the ones I Want in the game.
 

Zeela12

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I support all FE characters 100%, but Sothe would have to be my absolute least fav char out of the entire FE universe (Ike being runner up),

Ike looks better than Sothe, and Sothe sucks, (not sure about FE10, but he looks too ugly to be good anyways.)

nevertheless, I still support him 100% for SSBB...
 

Zeela12

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meh.. lol I guess I do like him a bit better now, but Micaia can totaly beat Sothe in coolness any day.

Ike still is cooler than Sothe in my opinion, and I hate Ike. >_>

MIA FTW! RHYS FTW! OR LETHE! doesnt matter, there all better lol.
 

nuro

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Honestly I think the Lord in the new fire emblem game is a cookie cutter character. He looks like your typical person just given a sword and the title of Lord. I didnt even hear his name mentioned in this trailer for GoD. >_>

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f7EIpr9EICM

Ike is wayyy more interesting than Mikaya. The name Mikaya in Japanese is the like of the name John in english, very common. His outfit looks dull too it doesn't have a cape (unless his lord form does).

I honestly mistook Mikaya for a regular unit type of person the first time I saw him. I know that my personal belief has nothing to do with him getting in or not. He has a chance I agree but I think that other FE characters out prioritize him in a lot of ways.

Elinica has a great chance I think. The first Lord thats a mage? A mage would probably make a killer moveset for ssbb. Although I prefer Soren from FE9 because of his bad *** autistic attitude compared to the stereotypical *cough* Japanese *cough* girl. Besides Soren is pretty much Ike's partner giving him the close chance of getting in.

Depending on how they make him, Sothe would be an amazing character. He could be the first character who specializes in using items. You know how C.Falcon can shoot a bunch of stars out of the star rod right? And how mewtwo is great with the beam sword because of his multiple hits? Well Sothe would be the master of using all items. He gets a boost from using items because he is a thief he knows how to use them to their fullest potential. Put it this way Sothe would never be getting goldeens from pokeballs. ;)

Sothe also has a B move that allows him to steal or teleport items from people around his area. Simply press B and he snatches your item out of your hands or catches bombs/turnips/etc in mid air with a much larger and better radius than the Z-button has in melee. Sothe gets a huge radius for snatching items around him. He could grab a hammer from 4 feet away. You may be thinking that is a weird idea because not all characters can make items out of themselves but the same thing goes for Ness's Down+b it doesnt have any use if there are no special beams which characters like C.Falcon dont have. Even though items are usually turned off the game intended for them to be turned on. The animation for this move is also not as complicated as u think. Simply let him do a few frames animation where his cape covers the item for an instant and "tada" its in his hand.

Personally I think Sakurai is thinking of ways to add new and unique characters rather than simply adding the most popular favorite. As evidence we wouldnt be having Pokemon Trainer if his moveset wasnt so unique. Or iceclimbers/sheikzelda/pichu.

Going in order from top to down of who would have the most unique movesets out of Fire Emblem characters.

Sothe (or other random thief)
...
...
Elinica/Soren (or other random mage/priest/drake)
A character who rides a mount (This could be like Wario's Chopper so I think this is actually very possible and unique)
A Laguz
A character with a ax
A character with a bow
A character with a spear
A charcater with a sword (although marth may return because he is Mr.FE apparently)


And let me just say this to all of you character haters. A lot of people hated the idea of Red getting in but look at how great he is now that he is here. I would of loved having red 10 times more than having a character such as deoxys. You people need to understand that the creators like to be random and surprise people with things so everything has a chance of being in. Especially if they have a unique moveset and are easy to make.

P.S if he does get in I called it.
 

Brawlmatt202

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I've become less obsessed with Sothe ever saince I've played Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, though I am still somewhat interested in him, and hope he appears in SSBB.
 

Kicker

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I honestly mistook Mikaya for a regular unit type of person the first time I saw him. I know that my personal belief has nothing to do with him getting in or not. He has a chance I agree but I think that other FE characters out prioritize him in a lot of ways.

Elinica has a great chance I think. The first Lord thats a mage? A mage would probably make a killer moveset for ssbb. Although I prefer Soren from FE9 because of his bad *** autistic attitude compared to the stereotypical *cough* Japanese *cough* girl. Besides Soren is pretty much Ike's partner giving him the close chance of getting in.


I think you may be confused on some characters.

THIS is Micaiah
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/fireemblem-wii/art-001.jpg
as you can see, she is a female, and she is the mage.

THIS is Elincia
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/akatsuki_bk/chara/chara15.html
BTW, I support Elincia for Brawl!
 

Shuma

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He should be in First, but the fact that Sothe is a thief and not an "OMG IMA SUPER WITHASWORD" character makes him interesing.
 

Hong

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I'm surprised no one mentioned anything involving the fact there are throwing knives in FE 10. That'd fit nicely for a part of Sothe's moveset, as long as they're nothing like Sheik's needles.
 

nuro

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I honestly mistook Mikaya for a regular unit type of person the first time I saw him. I know that my personal belief has nothing to do with him getting in or not. He has a chance I agree but I think that other FE characters out prioritize him in a lot of ways.

Elinica has a great chance I think. The first Lord thats a mage? A mage would probably make a killer moveset for ssbb. Although I prefer Soren from FE9 because of his bad *** autistic attitude compared to the stereotypical *cough* Japanese *cough* girl. Besides Soren is pretty much Ike's partner giving him the close chance of getting in.


I think you may be confused on some characters.

THIS is Micaiah
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/fireemblem-wii/art-001.jpg
as you can see, she is a female, and she is the mage.

THIS is Elincia
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/akatsuki_bk/chara/chara15.html
BTW, I support Elincia for Brawl!
Ops. I havent played PoR in a while.

So I dont understand this yet. I haven't looked into GoD because I dont want any spoilers for when the game is released in the U.S

But can you just tell me this. Who exactly is the main character and who are the lords?

I know PoR characters are returning so is Ike the main character again? Who is the kid with the sword and brown hair? Is he a lord?

http://www.siliconera.com/news/0703/fireemblem.jpg
 

Hong

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Ops. I havent played PoR in a while.

So I dont understand this yet. I haven't looked into GoD because I dont want any spoilers for when the game is released in the U.S

But can you just tell me this. Who exactly is the main character and who are the lords?
There are four. The game has four parts and you play as different lords over the various points. Macaiah, Ike, Elincia and occasional play with Sanaki I believe. Ike still has the most play from what I understand. Sothe is just this game's "Jeigan". Jeigans are powerful characters given to you at the start of the game, which are usually avoided by more experienced players to better distribute EXP amongst your team.
I know PoR characters are returning so is Ike the main character again? Who is the kid with the sword and brown hair? Is he a lord?

http://www.siliconera.com/news/0703/fireemblem.jpg
Just another character as far as I know. :/
 

nuro

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Meh, there'll be enough swordsmen in brawl.
There'll be enough fist fighters in brawl. Whats your point?


There are four. The game has four parts and you play as different lords over the various points. Macaiah, Ike, Elincia and occasional play with Sanaki I believe. Ike still has the most play from what I understand. Sothe is just this game's "Jeigan". Jeigans are powerful characters given to you at the start of the game, which are usually avoided by more experienced players to better distribute EXP amongst your team.Just another character as far as I know. :/


Thanks for ur input i guess so if Sothe is a jeigan does that mean that all the characters from PoR will start off with very high stats compared to the newbies? Sanaki=who? And I guess that brown haird guy wasnt a lord after all? I was at a smash tournament and some people were playing Goddess of Dawn on their hacked wii in japanese they told me he was a lord so i guess they were wrong?

Edit: nvm google searched i remember her from por she is the Empress or Apostle in PoR right? I cant remember most names from RPGs for more than a month. -.-
 

nuro

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I just realized since this game is being released close to brawl it will boost the chances of Sothe being playable. Roy was only in melee for the sake of advertisement so I think its hard not to say someone from FE10 is going to make an appearance. although ike kinda fits both roles..
 

Hong

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Thats why he appears on the cover of the game?
Have you played, read the story or seen FE10? Sothe is significant for the first part of the game, then after that he doesn't matter. He's no important than any other Jeigan. Every Jeigan is close to the main character, but that's all. Ike, Macaiah, Elincia, Sanaki, Seriphan (sp) and the goddesses are the important characters.
 

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I'm sorry but Sothe? Are you kidding? If it's going to be anyone from GoD it's going to Micaiah, Not Sothe.

Also just because he appears on the cover of the game really means jack****; because you have to open the game and play it in order to find his importance.
 

skullkidd

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Man I completely forgot about this thread. Well it turns out that Sothe isn't the lord of the game so he most likely won't make it. Oh well, less competition for the Black Knight.
Alas! Numa Dude has seen the light on this topic! ;)
 

Hong

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That's really stupid logic. Ike wasn't a Lord either, yet look where HE is!
We mean in the sense of main character/Lords. The fact Ike promotes to LORD means he's the Lord of his game. Sothe is just the replacement for Jeigan Paladins. Sothe is considered a Rogue and becomes an Espeon as his tier 3 class. Ike was considered a Ranger, but he soon becomes a Lord and defeats the antagonist of Path of Radiance. Thus Ike is a Lord and Sothe isn't.

This post isn't saying they have to be a Lord to be in, but Lords always, always, ALWAYS have more character development, moveset potential and fan base. They hold more significance in the game and required to move on. Someone like Sothe can just die in part 2 and the game wouldn't have a care in the world. The later parts of FE10 are all Ike and Macaiah with Sothe becoming completely moot. Volke returns by then, and learns the same skill, Lethality. Only unlike Sothe's version of Lethality (which leaves the enemy with 1 HP), Volke's version straight up kills them. What does this have to do with anything? Well because of this, there's no reason for anyone to use Sothe. Thus no use means no fan base.
 

RWB

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Well because of this, there's no reason for anyone to use Sothe.
Yes, there is. The fact that Sothe is likely the best unit in the game.
I can almost guarantee that Sothe will be Top Tier on the lists when FE10 hits NA and Europe. Lol thief skills+Great stats and good growths>>>Anything.
 

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Hmm... They are good with Ike and Marth I think.

I could be wrong, I don't like his vest -.-

-Onyx
 

Hong

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Yes, there is. The fact that Sothe is likely the best unit in the game.
I can almost guarantee that Sothe will be Top Tier on the lists when FE10 hits NA and Europe. Lol thief skills+Great stats and good growths>>>Anything.
I have never, ever been happy with a Jeigan end game. I just give up. I always find more comfort raising something from the start and promoting it to their class or something of the liking. That there's that issue of having to hold back on using a Jeigan until everyone else is on the same tier unless it's completely necessary, as to better distribute EXP. But I guess it's a matter of opinion, and Jeigans do indeed and up high on the tier list. :/

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/elaice/fe10/char_base.html
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/elaice/fe10/char_growth.html

You could fit Sothe into your team. Volke presumably ends up with lower Strength but has higher Skill. Unlike Lethality, Slay instantly kills them so it doesn't really matter. :p
Oh, and has that 25 Crit bonus.

Can't be bothered calculating average rates, but either way Sothe doesn't have enough going for him to be in Brawl. Even a random character like Mia made it on the polls. :/

Edit - What COULD increase Sothe's chances;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m7CZm9rRhQ
He looked pretty awesome in this video. xD
 

Shuma

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*Grabs Onix by the Neck*

You will support the Black Knight from now on. Add BK for Brawl on Red to your sig, now.

We need more supporters for the Dark Warrior.
 

RWB

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You could fit Sothe into your team. Volke presumably ends up with lower Strength but has higher Skill. Unlike Lethality, Slay instantly kills them so it doesn't really matter. :p
Oh, and has that 25 Crit bonus.
Volke has better str. That's given, seeing as he starts at 30 str while Sothe caps at 28. >_>

Really, what makes me think Sothe will be so good is the fact that he has great stats, is there for almost all of the game, unlike Volke. Powerhouse fighter thief? Yes thanks. XD

Volke is good, but only there for very few chapters, and compared to the rest of your characters, he's not that good statwise.

Thief Utility. <3
 
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