Sorry kids, here's why Geno won't get in. The good news? Krystal might.

[shadenexus18]

I look as Geno as the character that represents the relationship of Square and Nintendo when it was at it's peak before the rapid decline

Mallow too bro. They both were robbed & screwed out of being Pikachu popular.

 

[DeuceBlade]

Mallow too bro. They both were robbed & screwed out of being Pikachu popular.

Wtf?!? You can not compare the fanbase of Pikachu to Geno and mallow, its like a 1:1000 ratio.
and im talking about when he was first introduced.

 

[Machspeed]

Wtf?!? You can not compare the fanbase of Pikachu to Geno and mallow, its like a 1:1000 ratio.
and im talking about when he was first introduced.

What's all this talk of a fanbase you continue to throw around?
Did Game & Watch have a gigantic fanbase behind him waiting for his inclusion?

 

[phantomphungus]

Roy didn't even exist until melee. He was put in there to provoke sales of his first game, which wasn't even out at the time. And as far as I know, he has only one game. So when melee was created, he wasn't very major at all. He didn't even exist.
Your feeding us balderdash (and don't forget blather and blarney), it dosn't matter if a character is a big character, it matters if the are an appreciated or requested character.
For creating this thread, you get zapped: :smiliegor

 

[DeuceBlade]

What's all this talk of a fanbase you continue to throw around?
Did Game & Watch have a gigantic fanbase behind him waiting for his inclusion?

Game & Watch is a gigantic part of Nintendo's history unlike Geno.

 

[vesperview]

Oh I do hate you, but I'm not angry. And you started it. All I was doing was minding my own business making a (Geno could have his own game thingy) and then you're trolling trash comes outta nowhere trying to pick apart my post saying that I'm ********, I'm tipsy, etc etc. Then your anti Geno posse came out of the word works and did the same thing so yeah, you so started it and added further fuel to the fire. Seriously, don't make me have to go get Mr. Phoenix Wright. Oh he'll prove my case.

First of all I'm not "Anti Geno", second, what's anti Geno of saying he doesn't represent SE when in fact he doesn't? You're the only idiot here, calling us all ignorant for not thinking Geno is in the same league as Mario and Sonic, and I'm adding fuel to the fire when my first post here today wasn't even directed at you? Hahaha good one, you're just looking for a flame war and you're the only one adding fuel to the fire with every reply thinking you can outsmart me, you're only proving how stupid you are and then start calling me an idiot out of your own fanboy mentality? Gimme a break!

 

[Machspeed]

Game & Watch is a gigantic part of Nintendo's history unlike Geno.

Geno played a major role in the plot and storyline of Mario's FIRST RPG ever.
That RPG's elements are seen in every Mario RPG on the market to date, the humor, the timed hits, the timed dodging, cameos, everything, everything, everything started with the Super Mario RPG.

Pretty important? I would think so.

 

[DeuceBlade]

Geno played a major role in the plot and storyline of Mario's FIRST RPG ever.
That RPG's elements are seen in every Mario RPG on the market to date, the humor, the timed hits, the timed dodging, cameos, everything, everything, everything started with the Super Mario RPG.

Pretty important? I would think so.

SMRPG.. not geno.

 

[Machspeed]

SMRPG.. not geno.

As I've stated, SMRPG's plotline couldn't possibly pan out the way it did without Geno.
You know, Legend of the Seven Stars = Geno repairing the Star Road.

... common sense.

 

[DeuceBlade]

As I've stated, SMRPG's plotline couldn't possibly pan out the way it did without Geno.
You know, Legend of the Seven Stars = Geno repairing the Star Road.

... common sense.

Geno alone did not carry out the Games plot... he did not make the game good alone... the way you are putting it is as if Geno alone represented everything that made SMRPG what is was, and he did not.

 

[shadenexus18]

Geno's Popularity. What could have been...The Sub Thread

First of all I'm not "Anti Geno", second, what's anti Geno of saying he doesn't represent SE when in fact he doesn't? You're the only idiot here, calling us all ignorant for not thinking Geno is in the same league as Mario and Sonic, and I'm adding fuel to the fire when my first post here today wasn't even directed at you? Hahaha good one, you're just looking for a flame war and you're the only one adding fuel to the fire with every reply thinking you can outsmart me, you're only proving how stupid you are and then start calling me an idiot out of your own fanboy mentality? Gimme a break!

Huh? I'm terribly terribly sorry, did you say something?

@DeuceBlade, I'm only saying what if....what if Square Enix and Nintendo didn't split. And that goes for the rest of you, would Geno (heck I'll throw in Mallow too) be as popular as lets say...Pikachu?

 

[DeuceBlade]

Huh? I'm terribly terribly sorry, did you say something?

@DeuceBlade, I'm only saying what if....what if Square Enix and Nintendo didn't split. And that goes for the rest of you, would Geno (heck I'll throw in Mallow too) be as popular as lets say...Pikachu?

Nintendo is not stupid, if a character is extremely popular he usually gets alot of representation , or atleast more appearances.. besides small Cameos. lulz

 

[Machspeed]

Geno alone did not carry out the Games plot... he did not make the game good alone... the way you are putting it is as if Geno alone represented everything that made SMRPG what is was, and he did not.

Quite actually, he was even more vital to the plot than Mario himself. Not to say he did it all, however. He doesn't represent it all himself, but he does represent the plot, and much of the story behind it.

Have you even played the game Deuce? I'm sure you wouldn't be speaking so, if you have.

 

[shadenexus18]

Quite actually, he was even more vital to the plot than Mario himself. Not to say he did it all, however. He doesn't represent it all himself, but he does represent the plot, and much of the story behind it.

Have you even played the game Deuce? I'm sure you wouldn't be speaking so, if you have.

Yes, I think that's an excellent idea. Lets test Deuce.

Simple question.

Explain what Geno does when you get a victory for your party. Yeah, his win pose.

Shhhhhh nobody can answer this except Deuce.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What I see from that list of characters.. are characters who are important to their respective franchises.. and characters who are either the main character or play major roles in more than 1 game.

In terms of importance, Geno is the equivalent of Midna: a character that appeared in one game, played an important role and was more intertwined with the game's overall plot then the supposed main character. (Link and Mario, respectively) With this said, this gives Geno the minimum amount of importance to qualify him as a playable character much like Shiek in Melee.

I do agree that brawl does celebrate Nintendo's history, but Geno is not a massive part of the history nor is he a small part.. So him being an AT seems fitting.

Super Mario RPG was a very important game in both Nintendo's and Mario's history. For Nintendo:

1. It was the first major joint project between Nintendo and a third party.
2. It was the first Nintendo game that features cameos from all of Nintendo's then Major frachises: Mario, LoZ, DK, Metroid, Star Fox, and F-Zero.
3. It was Nintendo's first Isometric 3D game.

For Mario:

1. It was Mario's first non platforming canon game.
2. It was the first Mario game that introduced the concept of Star collecting, an activity that has been part of nearly every Mario canon since.
3. It was the first Mario game with a complete story and character development.
4. It was the first Mario game with a genuine sense of humor and wackiness, a trend that can easily be seen in the Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi games.
5. It was the first Mario game where Mario interacts with enemies with goombas and magikoopas, yet another trend that has been seen in almost every Mario game since then.
6. It was the first Mario game where Peach is given disntinct characteristics that aren't based on other characters (like in Super Mario Bros 2).
7. It was the first Mario game where Mario and Bowser team up.
8. It was the first Mario game where it shows kingdoms outside of the Mushroom Kingdom and races besides Toads like Molemen and Nimbus people, yet another trend that is seen in later games.

I don't even think I have to go into all the RPG elements that were incorporated into the later games like coins actually being used as currency and mushrooms being used as healing items.

And if you wouldn't mind.. do you have any of the journal entries that I could read/see for myself.

By the time I post this, someone probably has already posted them but if they haven't, I'll get them from the offical Geno thread because I've posted them multiple times there. I'm currently on my laptop but on my family's computer, I have them saved in a document in Word.

and btw, The Mario franchise is not the oldest Nintendo Franchise.. Donkey Kong is.. although you could say they spawned 2 successful franchises.

The game stars Mario so it could easily be classified as a Mario game too despite Donkey Kong having his name in the title.

 

[vesperview]

Yes, I think that's an excellent idea. Lets test Deuce.

Simple question.

Explain what Geno does when you get a victory for your party. Yeah, his win pose.

Shhhhhh nobody can answer this except Deuce.

Wow, nice going, I mean, we're not in the internet where that kind of thing appears with one simple search on YouTube.

 

[Fatmanonice]

@ deuceblade:

Here's a link to the five mentions and basic translations of them.

 

[shadenexus18]

Wow, nice going, I mean, we're not in the internet where that kind of thing appears with one simple search on YouTube.

Hmmm...ya know....I could have sworn I heard somebody say something.....ah well!

@DeuceBlade, what have you got against Geno anyways? I know us guys played action figures when we were children and not with possessed Barbie dolls but why don't you just this one time accept that Geno has a.....I say roughly 50/50 chance as a playable.

 

[The Noob Legend]

The rumour that Brawl has gone gold has been debunked.

So Geno, one of the highest fanbase on these forums.

May have a chance of being revealed the following weeks after Jan 7th

 

[vesperview]

Hmmm...ya know....I could have sworn I heard somebody say something.....ah well!

Because the forum has audio to listen to people's posts?

 

[shadenexus18]

Because the forum has audio to listen to people's posts?

Hmmm....tou'che Vespy, tou'che.

@The Noob Legend, Just as long as he's confirmed. I could care less when that may be. If he isn't mark my words...

Heads. Will. Roll.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Making assumptions without knowing all the characters yet?

/FISSION MAILED.

 

[shadenexus18]

Making assumptions without knowing all the characters yet?

/FISSION MAILED.

Pika? I'm not following you.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Making assumptions without knowing all the characters yet?

/FISSION MAILED.

Where'd you come from? Also, has anyone else noticed that the thread creator left a long time ago?

 

[Rick88]

Yeah, when I first saw this thread I was ready to make a pretty good counter post but reading on a few pages I realized the OP wasn't even responding

 

[Machspeed]

First few pages of the thread, his theory got completely trashed, so he's yet to come back I suppose.

 

[shadenexus18]

Where'd you come from? Also, has anyone else noticed that the thread creator left a long time ago?

Shhhhh!! The mods will here you.

Spoiler

2 Geno threads are better than 1.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Where'd you come from? Also, has anyone else noticed that the thread creator left a long time ago?

Out of nowhere as i just logged on, You? Oh and happy new years .

 

[Fatmanonice]

Out of nowhere as i just logged on, You? Oh and happy new years .

Happy early New Year's to you too. By the way, I'm going to be sending you a message later that I'd like you to post on Nsider. It's my yearly New Year's message and I just want them to know that I'm still alive.

Oh and to keep this on topic, Geno's hat is blue. >_>' Uh yeah... It's blue alright.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

Happy early New Year's to you too. By the way, I'm going to be sending you a message later that I'd like you to post on Nsider. It's my yearly New Year's message and I just want them to know that I'm still alive.

Oh and to keep this on topic, Geno's hat is blue. >_>' Uh yeah... It's blue alright.

hmmm really? id say its more of a sky blue
edit: hehehe post of the devil (666)

 

[shadenexus18]

hmmm really? id say its more of a sky blue
edit: hehehe post of the devil (666)

*gasp* ON A SUNDAY! THAT'S SO DEMONIC! jk!

If Geno was to look all cool looking on Wii/Brawl, his appearance and sock hat he's always sportin would make em look like a mini version of a certain Hylian hero we all know and love.

 

[Banjodorf]

*gasp* ON A SUNDAY! THAT'S SO DEMONIC! jk!

If Geno was to look all cool looking on Wii/Brawl, his appearance and sock hat he's always sportin would make em look like a mini version of a certain Hylian hero we all know and love.

Uhhhh Tingle?

 

[shadenexus18]

Uhhhh Tingle?

No way Jose! You know good and well I was going for Link, not that pansy Tingle.

Geno 4 Brawl

 

[theGreatDekuTree]

too bad this is just one huge opinion?
id never put the controller down if skull kid was in, majoras mask style

 

[Deleted member]

Geno played the biggest role in Mario RPG. =|

 

[BananaNut]

Now let's look at some requests.

Midna (Twilight Princess) - played a medium role in ONE "Zelda" game. Not a very good chance of getting in. Not any better than any other medium zelda character (The Wind Fish, for example)

Medium role? What? The whole twilight princess storyline focused around Midna, while link's character development is like a tree stump.

Uh, just thought I'd point that out.

 

[Polostick]

Nintendo has yet to put a minor character from any game in. That's why. Let's take a look at all the characters released in any smash game so far. Every single one of them was major in some way. Sorry guys, but a character who played a tiny part in a small game isn't going to have much of a chance of getting in.


Bowser - One of Mario's main enemies. Appears in nearly every Mario game.
Captain Falcon - One of the first unlockables in F-Zero games, main character of TV show.
Diddy Kong - Star character in many DK games. Plays a big part in storylines.
Donkey Kong - Main character of DK games.
Dr. Mario - Dr. Mario series of games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Falco - Consistent character in Star Fox games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Fox - Main character of the Star Fox games.
Ganondorf - Main enemy of Link in Zelda games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Ice Climbers - Star characters of classic "Ice Climber" Nintendo games.
Ike - Star character (I think) in Fire Emblem games.
Jigglypuff - Nintendo uses Jigglypuff a lot (popular character in Pokemon series).
King Dedede - One of Kirby's main enemies.
Kirby - Main character of "Kirby's Dreamland" series.
Link - Main character of "Legend of Zelda" series.
Lucas - Main character in newer "Earthbound" games.
Luigi - Main character in many Mario games.
Mario - No **** sherlock
Marth - Lead character in Fire Emblem Games (I think).
Meta Knight - Another one of Kirby's main enemies, appears in most Kirby games.
Mewtwo - Hardest pokemon to get in early games, lead villain in many movies/TV show.
Mr. Game & Watch - Classic nintendo character, star of the "Game and Watch arcade" series.
Ness - Star of early "Earthbound" games.
Peach - Consistent lead character in "Mario" series.
Pichu - Cute little guy, this pokemon was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Pikachu - One of the main characters on the TV show, in Pokemon yellow version.
Pit - Main character of whatever series it is he's in.
Pokémon Trainer - Main character in every pokemon game.
Roy - See Marth
Samus - Main character of Metroid series.
Sheik - Goes along with "Zelda" character.
Snake - Main character of "Metal Gear Solid" series.
Sonic - Main character of "Sonic the Hedgehog" series.
Wario - Main character of "Wario" series.
Yoshi - Consistent character in Mario games.
Young Link - Cute little guy, this boy was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Zelda - Important character in almost every "Legend of Zelda" game.
Zero Suit Samus - See shiek, goes along with "Samus" character.


Now let's look at some requests.

Midna (Twilight Princess) - played a medium role in ONE "Zelda" game. Not a very good chance of getting in. Not any better than any other medium zelda character (The Wind Fish, for example)

Captain Olimar - very good chance of getting in. Star character of new nintendo series "Pikmin".

Geno - minor character in Super Mario RPG, has showed up as a minor NPC in other games. Low chance of getting in. I'd put him up there with, say, "Tarin the cucco farmer" from the Zelda games.

Star Wolf - minor enemy of Fox in early Star Fox games. Showed up as a minor character in Assault as well. Medium chance of getting in, only since there aren't many SF games.

Skull Kid - Extremely minor character in Zelda Oot, played a slightly larger role in MM, hasn't been seen since. Chance of getting in: Next to none.

Captain K. Rool - Major enemy of Donkey Kong. Stands a good chance of getting in. However, in the SSE video it showed a koopa stealing DK's bananas which slightly diminishes the chances of K.Rool's appearance, but we'll have to see.

Knuckles - Playable character in some Sonic games. Medium chance but Tails has a better chance of making it in.

Isaac - Major character in Golden Sun series. Hopefully Sakurai will remember to put him in, I'll be surprised if he's left out.

Krystal - major character in more recent Star Fox games. Good chance of replacing Falco.

Tingle - minor character in a few Zelda games. No chance of getting into Brawl whatsoever.

let me make an accurate one.


Bowser - One of Mario's main enemies. Appears in nearly every Mario game.
Captain Falcon - One of the first unlockables in F-Zero games, main character of TV show.
Diddy Kong - Star character in many DK games. Plays a big part in storylines.
Donkey Kong - Main character of DK games.
Dr. Mario - Dr. Mario series of games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Falco - Consistent character in Star Fox games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Fox - Main character of the Star Fox games.
Ganondorf - Main enemy of Link in Zelda games, this character was a last-minute clone.
Ice Climbers - Star characters of classic "Ice Climber" Nintendo games.
Ike - Star character inFire Emblem: Path of Radiance.
Jigglypuff - Nintendo uses Jigglypuff a lot (popular character in Pokemon series).
King Dedede - One of Kirby's main enemies.
Kirby - Has his own series.
Link - Main character of "Legend of Zelda" series.
Lucas - Main character in Mother.
Luigi - Mario's Brother.
Mario - No **** sherlock
Marth - Lead character in Fire Emblem 1, 3, and DS.
Meta Knight - Another one of Kirby's main enemies, appears in most Kirby games.
Mewtwo - Hardest pokemon to get in early games, lead villain in many movies/TV show.
Mr. Game & Watch - Classic nintendo character, star of the "Game and Watch arcade" series.
Ness - Star of Earthbound.
Peach - Consistent lead character in "Mario" series.
Pichu - Cute little guy, this pokemon was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Pikachu - One of the main characters on the TV show, in Pokemon yellow version.
Pit - Main character of Kid Icarus.
Pokémon Trainer - Main character in every pokemon game.
Roy - See Marth
Samus - Main character of Metroid series.
Sheik - Zelda's alter ego.
Snake - Main character of "Metal Gear Solid" and Metal Gear series.
Sonic - Main character of "Sonic the Hedgehog" series.
Wario - Main character of "Wario" series.
Yoshi - Consistent character in Mario games.
Young Link - Cute little guy, this boy was a last minute clone that took 10 seconds to make.
Zelda - Important character in almost every "Legend of Zelda" game.
Zero Suit Samus - See shiek, goes along with "Samus" character.

 

[FrogButler]

This thread doesn't really make sense. You reasoning is by no means valid and doesn't take fanbase into consideration...

 

[spindash]

Don't you get it? If Geno is somehow not in this game, he's going to blow up Japan with sheer awesomeness.

 

[Rick88]

Uh just to let you guys know the topic creator left this thread a long time ago. His theories got put to shame during the first few pages.