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Social Sora Unlocks the Door! The Sora Social Thread

Sora's chances of getting in?

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TraaP

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Something just occurred to me, remember in Brawl how Sega originally refused to let Sonic be in the game, but then later changed their minds - which happened late into production & caused the game to be delayed? This shows that companies can change their mind on allowing their character to be included, even if it’s late.
Well this could line up with Imran Khan’s claim that Disney Japan said “no” & that there are fighters in this fighters pass.
I’m probably looking way too much into this, but I’m just optimistic & wishing for Sora to be in the game.

reference of Sonic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OGmACelA2sA&t=317s 5.00 minutes in.
 
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TraaP said:
Something just occurred to me, remember in Brawl how Sega originally refused to let Sonic be in the game, but then later changed their minds - which happened late into production & caused the game to be delayed? This shows that companies can change their mind on allowing their character to be included, even if it’s late.
Well this could line up with Imran Khan’s claim that Disney Japan said “no” & that there are fighters in this fighters pass.
I’m probably looking way too much into this, but I’m just optimistic & wishing for Sora to be in the game.

reference of Sonic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OGmACelA2sA&t=317s 5.00 minutes in.
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I doubt it. It has been known for a while that the DLC has already been decided, and I don't think they would try to make changes so late.
 
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Wings000 said:
Sora doesn't have a lot of Disney with him in the first place. If you were to make a moveset for him the absolute most you would include with him is Donald and Goofy.

I'm 90% sure if the rule is "No Disney" you can still make a good moveset for him just using the actual game.
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Sora is Disney. It doesn't even matter if all of his moves and his stage are just strictly Kingdom Hearts references with no Disney references, Disney has to approve his inclusion into Smash Bros.

Perkilator said:
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Several Nendoroids of KH characters were confirmed.

Once again, Disney's not as strict with the KH license as people make them out to be.
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If you replaced Roxas with Ventus, we would have had all of the Guardians of Light.

MonkeyDLenny said:
I'm assuming he's refering to this theory
There was a problem fetching the tweet

Seems more coincidental, but I'll admit this is far more believable than the Switch not being powerful enough to run PS2 games when we're getting a Crash 4 on Switch, a current gen game with very few compromises.
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This is completely believable. Nintendo has a history of publishing Square Enix games so I wouldn't be surprised if Square Enix is asking for too much money for Nintendo's liking.

Hadokeyblade said:
Conspiracy theory:

They are going to demake KH3 so it can run properly on switch, that's why they make PS2 quality models of Sora and Kairi's Kh3 designs.
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I'd actually love the idea of that, the game would be visually coherent with the previous Kingdom Hearts entries if they did that.

Hadokeyblade said:
Yeah, smash 4 had half of it's DLC dedicated to RPG characters.


Officially speaking Kingdom hearts has always been a Final fantasy spin off series like Tactic and Crystal chronicles, so Sora is in fact a final fantasy protagonist.
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It's only a Final Fantasy spinoff because of the Final Fantasy cameos. Kingdom Hearts has evolved beyond that. Even so, he is not a Final Fantasy character, because if he was, he would be owned by Square Enix.

Mushroomguy12 said:
T'is too easy.

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This is completely intentional on Walt Disney Animation Studios part, they were directly involved with the narratives of Tangled, Frozen and Big Hero 6 in Kingdom Hearts III.
 
TraaP

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JustASora/CrashSupporter said:
I doubt it. It has been known for a while that the DLC has already been decided, and I don't think they would try to make changes so late.
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Me too but we have a big lack of knowledge. If Nintendo asked for Sora to be in FP1, then that gives plenty of time for Disney to change their minds for FP2 - with the characters being finalised by November/December 2019 at the very latest.
 
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JustASora/CrashSupporter said:
I doubt it. It has been known for a while that the DLC has already been decided, and I don't think they would try to make changes so late.
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Well, that's assuming changes would need to be made at all. Even if Sora's not in the second fighters' pass, there's nothing stopping the team from including stand-alone DLC characters post FP2. Or, y'know, them making an FP3.

TraaP said:
Well this could line up with Imran Khan’s claim that Disney Japan said “no” & that there are fighters in this fighters pass.
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Mondo Mega said that, Imran Khan was speculating that Disney Japan would be the biggest hurdle.

Starlight Liger said:
This is completely believable. Nintendo has a history of publishing Square Enix games so I wouldn't be surprised if Square Enix is asking for too much money for Nintendo's liking.
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And yet, with the recent wave of SE games that's been/being ported to the Switch, I can't help but disagree with that sentiment. SE has already admitted to the difficulty of porting the KH games over to the Swich. Keeping the time frame of the released ports on other consoles in mind, it's easy to make the connection that porting the KH franchise to other consoles is a lot more difficult than everybody else makes it out to be.
 
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Double0Groove said:
And yet, with the recent wave of SE games that's been/being ported to the Switch, I can't help but disagree with that sentiment. SE has already admitted to the difficulty of porting the KH games over to the Swich. Keeping the time frame of the released ports on other consoles in mind, it's easy to make the connection that porting the KH franchise to other consoles is a lot more difficult than everybody else makes it out to be.
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if you ask me fans rarely have realistic expectations
 
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I never really thought about this before, if Cloud and Sephiroth were restricted to their Japanese voice actors, Sora probably would be too, huh?

 
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Mushroomguy12 said:
I never really thought about this before, if Cloud and Sephiroth were restricted to their Japanese voice actors, Sora probably would be too, huh?

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Hayley's a part of a union?
 
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Is it Square or Disney that pays Haley?

It's annoying trying to work out the whole VA thing. There's something union actors can do to appear in non-union projects. Smash has some actors like that, it has actors that have had roles in KH. Square's thing is also kind of weird because they've hired non-union actors during strikes, so what's the point in them supposedly upholding actor rights by enforcing credits then.
 
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Peripuff said:
Really? The only character I can think of who shows up in Smash and shared a voice actor with a KH character is Silver (who shared a voice with Lea), and Silver doesn't have a voiced line in Smash.
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Ray Chase who voices the Master of Masters, also voices Roy in Smash.
 
TraaP

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So does anyone think we will see anything Kingdom Hearts related in this Square Enix presentation? I doubt it but there's still a chance.
 
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Mikegamer0608 said:
I'll be honest I don't care if its just the japanese VA, I just want the character himself.
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Yeah same, obviously I'd prefer if Haley Joel Osmont's voice was there because that's the one I grew up with and am used to, but obviously if I had to choose between just having the Japanese VA and no Sora at all, I'd pick the japanese va.
 
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Apparently there's a March for Caprice event going on this weekend. Basically a Kingdom Hearts fan event.

Lots of art and music on the twitter.





Lots of KH Merch in the replies below.


There's also a playlist of fan videos.
 
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fogbadge said:
so?
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I just thought it was a funny coincidence that these two games share the same week of release.

Speaking of dates, I decided to make a Spirit Board that looks more like it could feasibly work for a DLC Spirit Board, featuring some of the most notable characters from each game.

Sora (KH3).png Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS III) (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Fighter Spirit; earned by:
  • Clearing Classic Mode
  • Buying from the shop
Sora (KH2).png Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS II) (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Fighter Spirit; earned by:
  • Buying from the shop
Shadow (Kingdom Hearts).png 1. Shadow (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★
Type: Support (Attack)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Easier Dodging
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultgnw:x13 (default)
    • Reinforcements: Giant :ultkirby: x7 (Color 8)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Battlefield)
  • Music Track: Dive Into the Heart / Destati
  • Match: Stamina (5HP)
  • Conditions:
    • Stamina battle
    • Defeat an army of fighters
    • The enemy is occasionally invisible
Riku.png 2. Riku (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Critical-Health Attack ↑
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultchrom: (Color 8)
  • Minions:
    • Sora x2 (Colors 1 and 5)
    • :ultmario: (Color 4)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Destiny Islands)
  • Music Track: Another Side
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • Defeat the main fighter to win
    • The enemy (:ultchrom:) starts the battle with a Rage Blaster
    • The enemy's (:ultchrom:) has significantly increased attack power when badly damaged
Kairi.png 3. Kairi (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★
Type: Primary (Shield)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Healing Shield
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 5)
  • Minions:
    • Sora x2 (Colors 1 and 3)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Destiny Islands)
  • Music Track: Bustin' Up on the Beach
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • Defeat the main fighter to win
    • The enemy heals significantly when badly damaged
Naminé.png 4. Naminé (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Shield)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Slumber Immunity
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultrosalina: (Color 8)
  • Stage: Living Room (Battlefield)
  • Music Track: Sinister Sundown / Working Together
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • You constantly take minor damage
    • The enemy tends to avoid conflict
    • The floor is sleep-inducing
Axel (Kingdom Hearts).png 5. Axel (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★
Type: Primary (Grab)
Slots: ⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultroy: (Color 2)
  • Stage: :norfair: (Omega)
  • Music Track: The 13th Struggle
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The floor is lava
    • The enemy's thrown items have increased power
    • Fire/explosion attacks heal the enemy
Axel (Bond of the Blaze).png
Axel (Bond of the Blaze) (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Grab)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Fire/Explosion Healing
Marluxia.png 6. Marluxia (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Death's Scythe Equipped
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultcorrinf:(Color 6, 110HP)
    • Minion: :ultsheik: (Color 7, 120HP)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Castle Oblivion)
  • Music Track: Lord of the Castle
  • Match: Timed Stamina (1:39)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy (:ultsheik:) favors neutral specials
    • The enemy (:ultcorrinf:) starts the battle with Death's Scythe
    • You constantly take minor damage
Roxas.png 7. Roxas (KINGDOM HEARTS II)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Critical Fast FS Charge
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 4)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Omega)
  • Music Track: The Other Promise
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy will suddenly have a Final Smash when badly damaged
    • The enemy's Final Smash meter charges quickly
    • The enemy starts the battle with Death's Scythe
Xion.png 8. Xion (KINGDOM HEARTS: 358/2 Days)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Trade-Off Attack ↑
  • Puppet Fighter: Giant Metal Sora (Color 6)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Twilight Town)
  • Music Track: Vector to the Heavens
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy favors special moves
    • The enemy will charge up a powerful Final Smash
Aqua (Kingdom Hearts).png 9. Aqua (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★★
Type: Support (Shield)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Floaty Jumps
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 7)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Land of Departure)
  • Music Track: Fate of the Unknown
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy favors neutral specials
    • The enemy falls slowly
    • The enemy’s magic attacks have increased power
Terra.png 10. Terra (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultmetaknight: (Color 7)
  • Stage: Gerudo Valley (Omega)
  • Music Track: Rage Awakened
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy’s attack power increases when badly damaged
    • The enemy turns gold when badly damaged
    • The enemy has super armor when badly damaged
Lingering Will.png
Lingering Will (KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Unflinching Charged Smashes & Super Armor
Ventus.png 11. Ventus (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Trade-Off Speed ↑
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 8)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Omega)
  • Music Track: Unbreakable Chains
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy’s speed increases when badly damaged
    • The enemy’s Final Smash meter charges quickly
Young Xehanort.png 12. Young Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS 3D: Dream Drop Distance)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultganondorf: (Color 7)
  • Reinforcements:
    • Sora (Color 3)
    • :ultrobin: w/Beam Sword (default)
    • :ultincineroar: (Color 3)
  • Stage: Umbra Clock Tower (Omega)
  • Music Track: Forza Finale
  • Match: Timed (3:00)
  • Conditions:
    • The floor is frozen
    • Reinforcements appear after the enemy (:ultganondorf:) is defeated
    • Hostile Assist Trophies (Shadow)
Master Xehanort.png
Master Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Double Final Smash
Donald Duck.png Goofy.png 13. Donald Duck and Goofy (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Support (Neutral)
Cost: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Chance of Sudden Final Smash
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (default)
    • Minion: :ultduckhunt: (Color 2)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening
  • Music Track: Hand in Hand
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy heals significantly when badly damaged
    • The enemy’s defense increases significantly when badly damaged
    • The enemy (Sora) will suddenly have a Final Smash
 
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Perkilator said:
I just thought it was a funny coincidence that these two games share the same week of release.

Speaking of dates, I decided to make a Spirit Board that looks more like it could feasibly work for a DLC Spirit Board, featuring some of the most notable characters from each game.

View attachment 309078Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS III) (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Fighter Spirit; earned by:
  • Clearing Classic Mode
  • Buying from the shop
View attachment 309077Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS II) (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Fighter Spirit; earned by:
  • Buying from the shop
View attachment 3090911. Shadow (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★
Type: Support (Attack)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Easier Dodging
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultgnw:x13 (default)
    • Reinforcements: Giant :ultkirby: x7 (Color 8)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Battlefield)
  • Music Track: Dive Into the Heart / Destati
  • Match: Stamina (5HP)
  • Conditions:
    • Stamina battle
    • Defeat an army of fighters
    • The enemy is occasionally invisible
View attachment 3090892. Riku (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Critical-Health Attack ↑
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultchrom: (Color 8)
  • Minions:
    • Sora x2 (Colors 1 and 5)
    • :ultmario: (Color 4)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Destiny Islands)
  • Music Track: Another Side
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • Defeat the main fighter to win
    • The enemy (:ultchrom:) starts the battle with a Rage Blaster
    • The enemy's (:ultchrom:) has significantly increased attack power when badly damaged
View attachment 3090843. Kairi (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★
Type: Primary (Shield)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Healing Shield
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 5)
  • Minions:
    • Sora x2 (Colors 1 and 3)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Destiny Islands)
  • Music Track: Bustin' Up on the Beach
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • Defeat the main fighter to win
    • The enemy heals significantly when badly damaged
View attachment 3090884. Naminé (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Shield)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Slumber Immunity
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultrosalina: (Color 8)
  • Stage: Living Room (Battlefield)
  • Music Track: Sinister Sundown / Working Together
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • You constantly take minor damage
    • The enemy tends to avoid conflict
    • The floor is sleep-inducing
View attachment 3090815. Axel (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★
Type: Primary (Grab)
Slots: ⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultroy: (Color 2)
  • Stage: :norfair: (Omega)
  • Music Track: The 13th Struggle
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The floor is lava
    • The enemy's thrown items have increased power
    • Fire/explosion attacks heal the enemy
View attachment 309080
Axel (Bond of the Blaze) (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Grab)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Fire/Explosion Healing
View attachment 3090866. Marluxia (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Death's Scythe Equipped
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultcorrinf:(Color 6, 110HP)
    • Minion: :ultsheik: (Color 7, 120HP)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Castle Oblivion)
  • Music Track: Lord of the Castle
  • Match: Timed Stamina (1:39)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy (:ultsheik:) favors neutral specials
    • The enemy (:ultcorrinf:) starts the battle with Death's Scythe
    • You constantly take minor damage
View attachment 3090907. Roxas (KINGDOM HEARTS II)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Critical Fast FS Charge
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 4)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Omega)
  • Music Track: The Other Promise
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy will suddenly have a Final Smash when badly damaged
    • The enemy's Final Smash meter charges quickly
    • The enemy starts the battle with Death's Scythe
View attachment 3090948. Xion (KINGDOM HEARTS: 358/2 Days)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Trade-Off Attack ↑
  • Puppet Fighter: Giant Metal Sora (Color 6)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Twilight Town)
  • Music Track: Vector to the Heavens
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy favors special moves
    • The enemy will charge up a powerful Final Smash
View attachment 3090799. Aqua (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★★
Type: Support (Shield)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Floaty Jumps
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 7)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Land of Departure)
  • Music Track: Fate of the Unknown
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy favors neutral specials
    • The enemy falls slowly
    • The enemy’s magic attacks have increased power
View attachment 30909210. Terra (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultmetaknight: (Color 7)
  • Stage: Gerudo Valley (Omega)
  • Music Track: Rage Awakened
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy’s attack power increases when badly damaged
    • The enemy turns gold when badly damaged
    • The enemy has super armor when badly damaged
View attachment 309085
Lingering Will (KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Unflinching Charged Smashes & Super Armor
View attachment 30909311. Ventus (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Trade-Off Speed ↑
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 8)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening (Omega)
  • Music Track: Unbreakable Chains
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy’s speed increases when badly damaged
    • The enemy’s Final Smash meter charges quickly
View attachment 30909512. Young Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS 3D: Dream Drop Distance)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
  • Puppet Fighter: :ultganondorf: (Color 7)
  • Reinforcements:
    • Sora (Color 3)
    • :ultrobin: w/Beam Sword (default)
    • :ultincineroar: (Color 3)
  • Stage: Umbra Clock Tower (Omega)
  • Music Track: Forza Finale
  • Match: Timed (3:00)
  • Conditions:
    • The floor is frozen
    • Reinforcements appear after the enemy (:ultganondorf:) is defeated
    • Hostile Assist Trophies (Shadow)
View attachment 309087
Master Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Double Final Smash
View attachment 309082View attachment 30908313. Donald Duck and Goofy (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Support (Neutral)
Cost: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Chance of Sudden Final Smash
  • Puppet Fighter: Sora (default)
    • Minion: :ultduckhunt: (Color 2)
  • Stage: Station of Awakening
  • Music Track: Hand in Hand
  • Match: Stock (1)
  • Conditions:
    • The enemy heals significantly when badly damaged
    • The enemy’s defense increases significantly when badly damaged
    • The enemy (Sora) will suddenly have a Final Smash
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yeah but just about any game series will share a release week with another
 
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Perkilator said:
Just wanted to take another jab at anti-Sora folk.
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Hell, we can also point out how their logic splits hairs on specifics. Like how Joker doesn't come with ANY Shinmegami Tensei demons despite them being the biggest part of the series, yet we're expected to believe that KH without any Disney animated characters isn't proper representation, and wouldn't/shouldn't happen as a result. It's a reaching argument at best and a despereate one at worst.
 
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Double0Groove said:
Hell, we can also point out how their logic splits hairs on specifics. Like how Joker doesn't come with ANY Shinmegami Tensei demons despite them being the biggest part of the series, yet we're expected to believe that KH without any Disney animated characters isn't proper representation, and wouldn't/shouldn't happen as a result. It's a reaching argument at best and a despereate one at worst.
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they might as well say you cant have kirby without any stage from the 21st century games
 
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The only Disney stuff needed is Sora's Final Smash where he falls down the mountains of Frozen over and over. Again and again.


........yea...I did not like that world.


It would not be difficult to avoid the Disney references. Sora's moveset would come whole cloth out of the actual games (seriously, his moveset is ridiculously easy to transfer over from source games) and doesn't have a Disney connection. His music could be the battle themes that barely have any connection to Disney in general (even if some battle themes play during Disney boss battles, they wouldn't be considered Disney songs). His spirits? The KH original cast (I mean, there's only, what 100+ of those floating around nowadays?). Even if his Final Smash was Trinity Limit that involved Donald and Goofy could have Riku and Kairi in their place. The only Disney reference would be the Mickey Head at the end of Kingdom Key, and I can't see anyone be legally petty enough to make that be a copyright issue.
 
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Vector Victor said:
It would not be difficult to avoid the Disney references. Sora's moveset would come whole cloth out of the actual games (seriously, his moveset is ridiculously easy to transfer over from source games) and doesn't have a Disney connection.
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He does, though - going by the copyright information at the start of every Kingdom Hearts game, anything not specifically mentioned (such as Tarzan, Final Fantasy, or the World Ends With You, which are all credited to their owners) is owned by Disney, including the original characters like Sora, Riku, Kairi, Xehanort, etc.

Also, this is Disney - they're definitely legally petty enough to make that an issue, seeing as they've changed copyright laws multiple times.
 
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Megadoomer said:
He does, though - going by the copyright information at the start of every Kingdom Hearts game, anything not specifically mentioned (such as Tarzan, Final Fantasy, or the World Ends With You, which are all credited to their owners) is owned by Disney, including the original characters like Sora, Riku, Kairi, Xehanort, etc.

Also, this is Disney - they're definitely legally petty enough to make that an issue, seeing as they've changed copyright laws multiple times.
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Oh, well that is distressing. I thought if they just focused on the original content that it would be less legal heads involved with adding Sora to Smash.
 
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