Sora Unlocks the Door! (Roxas as an Echo?)

Sora's chances of getting in?


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Welcome to the Sora support thread.

Sora is the optimistic main protagonist of the long-lived, bestselling action RPG series known as Kingdom Hearts. He possesses the Keyblade, a mystical weapon that grants its wielder great magical power as well as the ability to open any lock. Though originally a Sony-exclusive series, Kingdom Hearts has so far made its way on three different Nintendo systems. As a third-party character, Sora's sheer uniqueness would make him an excellent candidate for Smash Switch. The biggest concern, however, is getting through Disney. And yes, Sora and Kingdom Hearts ARE owned by Disney--not Square Enix. To see more info, check the spoiler tag "Why Should Sora Be in Smash?"

For fans of the Kingdom Hearts series as well as newcomers, all support is welcome and appreciated. Whom knows? Sora's inclusion in Smash 4 title might just increase the chances of the long-awaited Kingdom Hearts III coming to the Nintendo Switch.

With that, feel free to discuss in this thread anything concerning Sora or his game series, Kingdom Hearts. What is your favourite game? Whom is your favourite character? All ideas--move sets, stage and song suggestions, assist trophies, you name it--are welcome.

Try to avoid posting any plot spoilers in the Kingdom Hearts series. If you wish to discuss the plots, characters, etc in depth and you think your message might reveal any major plot details, be sure to conceal or compress the details with a spoiler warning.

Last but not least... Roxas, Sora's Nobody, as an Echo Fighter?



Credit to RhymesWithEmpty for the emblem design.

For those whom are unfamiliar with Kingdom Hearts, here is a full list of the currently released games in the series:

Kingdom Hearts (Playstation 2, 2002)
Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (Playstation 2, 2002)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Gameboy Advance, 2004)
Kingdom Hearts II (Playstation 2, 2005)

Kingdom Hearts: Re: Chain of Memories (Playstation 2, 2007)
Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ (Playstation 2, 2007)
Kingdom Hearts: Coded (Mobile, 2008)
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (Nintendo DS, 2009)
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Playstation Portable, 2010)
Kingdom Hearts: Re:Coded (Nintendo DS, 2010)
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Final Mix (Playstation Portable, 2011)
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Nintendo 3DS, 2012)
Kingdom Hearts X (PC, 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix (Playstation 3, 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix (Playstation 3, 2014)
Kingdom Hearts Unchained X (Android, Release TBA)
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue (Playstation 4, 2016)
Kingdom Hearts III (Playstation 4, Xbox One, 29 JAN 2019)



Confirmed worlds for KH3:
Twilight Town
Olympus (Hercules)
Toy Box (Toy Story)
Tangled
Big Hero 6
Monsters Inc.
Frozen
Pirates of the Caribbean
Winnie the Pooh


Sora is one of the most interesting candidates to analyze the chances for in Smash Switch. I know it is easy to dismiss the possibility of Sora getting in the game with Disney fully owning the rights to Sora/Kingdom Hearts, but I think there is more favoring Sora than some people might think. I have gained an unusual amount of confidence for Sora being in Smash Switch and I cannot let go of him in my predictions, so I might as well explain.

One notable positive in his favor is Sora likely ranking massively high on the Smash ballot. Back when the ballot voting period started, I saw a colossal amount of fans campaigning for Sora on social media platforms such as Twitter. The support is MOST apparent on YouTube, where Kingdom Hearts YouTubers would consistently encourage people to vote for Sora on the ballot. I have seen Sora campaigned more than any other third-party voted in the West, that I would not be so surprised if he was the #1 ballot choice voted in the region of North America. Sora's demand likely surpasses far more than other Square candidates (aside from maybe Geno), and those amount of votes will definitely get Sakurai’s attention to consider Sora for Smash.

The other matter to consider is Sakurai’s current relationship with Square Enix and Nomura. Sakurai has been notably close with Tetsuya Nomura many times ever since Cloud’s reveal in Smash 4, from the Creator interview regarding Cloud’s reveal in Smash, Nintendo Dream interview briefly discussing Cloud’s inclusion to Sakurai’s recent statement he made about Nomura for KH’s 15th anniversary. Sakurai is definitely aware of KH and at least enjoys playing the KH games, based on his participation of the latter event. He would also be aware of the possible licensing issues when thinking about Sora. But, there are noteworthy statements from Sakurai in the Nintendo Dream Smash interview that makes me think Sakurai would willingly go for Sora:

*Taken from Part 2 of the Creator interview.

Sakurai: Oh, is that so? But really, when you take a step back and look at it, when you see all of these different characters in the same place, Smash is pretty crazy. I suppose that’s pretty ridiculous of me to say, though, given that I’m the creator (laughs).

Nomura: Whether it’s crazy or not, you’ve assembled quite a number of characters.

Sakurai: Honestly, when we revealed Solid Snake for Brawl, I thought, “There’s no way we’ll be able to stage a bigger surprise than this.” But, as a creator, you just keep making more while trying to surprise and delight your audience as much as possible.



Nomura: The element of surprise is very important.

Note the bolded, italic statement. Given the openness of Sakurai doing another collaboration with Nomura…:

*Also taken from Part 2 of the Creator interview.

Interviewer: Would you like to make another game together in the future, or do another collaboration?

Sakurai: It seems like it would be difficult to decide who would have what role, though.

Nomura: If we were to work together, I think I’d leave most everything up to Mr. Sakurai.

…and noting Sakurai’s relationship with Square Enix at the time:

*Taken from the Nintendo Dream interview.

Sakurai: Those third-party characters are huge icons of their respective companies, so such an opportunity is hard to come by. That being said, now that Smash has grown into a well-known franchise, the creators recognize the merits of allowing us to use their characters, so negotiations have tended to go rather smoothly.



All of these statements from Sakurai lead me to believe that there is a real possibility of Sakurai negotiating Sora with Nomura right after doing an interview with him and Sakurai notcing Sora's high popularity in the ballot. With how ambitious Sakurai is with adding surprise fighters such as Cloud, Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer, if he wants to keep pushing for surprises in this new Smash (Especially with third-party choices), then choosing someone like Sora that would be seen as impossible for a hardcore speculating audience would definitely be the next transitional step of surprise. With Sakurai having the experience of negotiating with Square Enix with Cloud, the game history KH carries with the franchise with being critically and financially successful (Selling over 20 million units total as of this 2014 statement), Sora’s distinct upbeat appeal/characterization, and the moveset potential he has with keyblade powers, he seriously feels like a choice that Sakurai would pick next.

In terms of Nintendo's relationship with Disney, their relationship is pretty strong with games like Disney Art Academy and Disney Magical World 1+2, both of which are published by Nintendo. For Disney Art Academy in particular, the game was developed Headstrong Games, whose franchise is owned by Nintendo, of which franchise has gotten representation in Smash 4 in the form of a trophy and music (Swan Lesson). For Nintendo and the studio to be able to collaborate with Disney for this game shows how close Nintendo's relationship with Disney actually is.

Disney would definitely know how profitable Sora appearing in one of the biggest fighting games would be, that is one of the biggest opportunities they would have in establishing a great profit while also forming an even closer relationship with Nintendo. With the relationship Nintendo and Disney have grown up to this point, they would have an easier time adjusting the amount of profit both companies would earn for both of their benefits, that includes Sakurai.

For Kingdom Hearts, there have been multiple instances where KH collaborations in other franchises have been more frequent, like Sora appearing in a recent FF title (World of Final Fantasy) and Mickey’s KH costume in Disney Infinity. These situations have shown Disney’s recent growing openness towards KH content appearing in other games. But, the person who will have the biggest influence and convince Disney to have Sora become a playable fighter in Smash would be none other than Tetsuya Nomura himself.

There is not one doubt in my mind that Nomura would love to see another of his creations become a fighter in Smash. With Nomura’s enormous reputation in the gaming industry and his 16-year long gaming relationship with Disney ever since creating KH1, I do feel Nomura alone could convince Disney that Sora appearing in a party fighting game like Smash would be a great idea.

I see the process of negotiating being as simple as:

1. Sakurai thinking about third-party surprises for Smash, becomes willing to negotiate Sora for Smash.
2. Talking to Nomura for creator permission, possibly asking Square Enix's permission too.
3. Talking to Disney for a Sora negotiation, negotiating possible business deals that would benefit both Nintendo and Disney, with Square Enix and Nomura possibly aiding the negotiation for JP to EN communication purposes. Given Nintendo's relationship with Disney now, I see business deals going rather smoothly, rather than ending up in chaos.
4. Making a finalized deal and developing Sora for Smash.

Everything I say here is what gets me unusually confident about Sora in the same way I felt Bayonetta was a very possible choice when Smash 4 DLC was announced. I think this will be Sakurai’s next wild-card choice for a third-party after Cloud. I feel Disney is LESS of an issue than people initially think. Sora has a legitimate shot and is arguably in the best position now to get in Smash Switch.

To me, Sora is one of the most interesting characters to predict because his pros and cons provide so much complexity and layers, filled with things would favor or go against his inclusion. Exploring Sora's chances is fun and is like figuring out a difficult puzzle in Professor Layton or sliding the Rubik's cube in a way that has same colors on all sides. Right now, I am craving for that delicious, different perspective.

Arguments:

Disney stopped Dissidia from becoming a KH fighting game:

The reason for the rejection of KH fighting game is not because of Disney's strictness, but because Nomura did not think it was a good idea. This creative decision had nothing to do with Disney having strict control. Even if that was really the case, recent cases of Disney allowing KH content in other Square games have shown Disney's openness of utilizing the KH IP, showing major growth in relationship of Square Enix and Disney. Whatever potentially happened back in Dissidia would no longer be an issue due to that growth.

Disney would not allow Sora to be punched or kicked in a fighting game:

That it is not a problem. Smash Bros. is not a gory fighting game where heads and feet falter off like in Mortal Kombat. That kind of content is something that Disney would have legitimate strictness of because how it would make people perceive their properties. Smash Bros. is of same level of violence as most of the Kingdom Hearts franchise. Smash Bros. is a cartoony fighting party game. Sora being featured in that kind of game is not going to be a major issue.

Disney will be strict when using their actual IPs in Smash:

Even if Disney was strict with allowing Disney characters present but not Sora, there is enough interesting original content in the KH series for Sakurai to get a substantial amount of solid representation of the franchise. As far as Disney powers go, Summons are probably the closest thing, but they act more like side-things rather than being integral to Sora's gameplay like Flow-motion or Keyblade powers. Sora characterization wise, personality wise, and gameplay wise provides enough tools like magic, keyblade moves, and drive forms to be a stand-out and fun character in Smash. Disney content is not integral to implementing Sora correctly.

Disney will have full control of Sora and how he plays out in Smash:

If Disney is going to be stingy about anything, it would be portraying Sora correctly characterization wise, much like with Nintendo when they were concerned about Bowser's characterization in Wreck-it-Ralph. And since Sakurai is about integrating characters in the most faithful way possible, both would have the same goals. In that matter, it is hard for me to imagine a scenario where Sakurai and Disney would fight out hard to choosing every move and manner Sora has to have in Smash.

The advisors of Disney would not be able to translate Sora into Smash gameplay as well as Sakurai. The best they could advise is looking over if Sora looks and feels accurate on a surface level and trust in Sakurai's talent to be able to envision the character well in Smash. Their potential complaints would go as far as accurately portraying the character, just like Square Enix with Cloud's addition. It is very hard to imagine a worse case scenario where Sakurai and Disney have so many creative differences in gameplay.

Both would be addressing feedback for the sake of implementing Sora in Smash in the best way possible. Meeting the potentially high demands of Disney of how Sora should be implemented in Smash would be a great fun challenge for Sakurai. Everything that Sakurai has done in each new Smash game has been stepping up with more surprises that lead to more interesting challenges. Implementing fighting game mechanics in Smash with Ryu, being able to translate a "peaceful" Nintendo character like Villager into a fighter, and the challenge of implementing Bayonetta's powers without having to lose the core aspect of Bayonetta's power of letting out skin while being able to pass the ratings.

The amount of work Sakurai would have to do for Sora to meet Disney's potentially high demand would be one of the greatest challenges Sakurai would have to face, and that would make the inclusion of Sora all the more satisfying when he is finally fully implemented into Smash Switch's gameplay.

There would be other Square Enix characters for competition:

I personally do not see other Square characters like a Dragon Quest character being actual competition. If Sakurai is going to aim for Sora, then it is him or nothing else. I cannot see Sakurai going for an alternate Square option, especially when Sora's degree of popularity likely outnumbers a number of SQ candidates by miles. What third-party choices will be chosen will be heavily based on very top ballot rankings. The only actual obstacles Sora really has is possible licensing issues with Disney.

Alright guys, I'm gonna do something I should've done a month ago and post the core arguments being used against Sora and my counter-arguments against them. This will contain info that has already been stated in this thread though( for the most part) So you can choose to utterly ignore it. If you do read it though and feel that some points need to either be argued against or hae certian things added to the over all argument, feel free to post a response. I'm trying to cut off as much of the fat as possible from this:

"Sora is owned by Square Enix and Disney, even if they weren't strict with their IPs, Nintendo wouldn't want to pay two different organizations for just one character"
This is a simple enough mistake to make as the Kingdom Hearts series has always been promoted to be a crossover between Disney's multiple franchises and the Final Fantasy series. But Sora is indeed owned by just Disney. Evidence of this are as follows:
"© Disney Developed by SQUARE ENIX" a copyright claim that can be found on both the official case for every Kingdom Hearts game( specifically on the back near the bottom) and in all of the official web pages for the series. For those of you who don't know, this simply means that Kingdom Hearts is a series that Square Enix is allowed to develop, but doesn't own (much like how Koie Tecmo and Capcom were allowe to develop Legend of Zelda games).
Tetsuya Nomura himself has stated that Kingdom Hearts is a Disney title.
Disney had a Kingdom Hearts game made called "Kingdom Hearts V-cast". This game starred Sora, had no Final Fantasy characters featured, and
Square Enix was completely unaware of it's development, further proving that Sora is their character.

"Disney is extremely strict with their IPs, they'd charge alot of money for his inclusion."
This is an argument that was spawned due to previous transactions involving Disney and their far more popular characters! In the grand scheme of things, the reasons as to why companies like Disney keeps close tabs on their IPs is because they can make alot of money off of their popularity. To be clear, Sora is fairly popular within the gaming community, but when you compare his popularity to the likes of Mickey Mouse, the little mermaid( a.k.a Ariel), Simba, Tarzan, Alice, Hercules, Aladdin, or even Jack Sparrow( to name a few) then it's simply no contest, he's just not well known to a majority of non-gamers. Anybody who makes this claim is literally making a mountain out of a molehill and to further prove this:
Yes, you're looking at this correctly, Sega was able to get the rights to a lesser known Disney character, and if Sega of all companies can get the rights to use a Disney character in their game, then I'm not putting anything over Nintendo.

"Disney wouldn't wan't any of their characters in a fighting game, they prevented Square Enix from making Kingdom Hearts Dissidia."
No they didn't, I've thoroughly searched high and low for an article that verifies this and the only one I've ever found that "confirmed" the info sourced another article that didn't make that claim. As it stands, this is just a false statement.
Even IF( and this is a bigger "if" than I'm implying) they did shut that concept down, there are way too many factors to put into consideration when thinking about why they would do it, and Sora being one of those factors is an impossibility considering the the type of game he comes from.

"Kingdom Hearts 3 isn't coming to the Wii U"
Neither is street fighter V. As of this point Ryu makes this and any other related argument irrelevant.

Sora Palette Swaps by Venus of the Desert Bloom:


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I didn;t even realize there wasnt a Sora thread. . .I would have made one ages ago i I knew


Support wholeheartedly. Top 5 probably. Kingdom Hearts is one of my favorite series of all time and im really hoping SOMETHING comes to Switch, whether it's 3 or 1.5+2.5. And then bring to Sora for smash alongside

That would be amazing.


(suggestion for OP. Talk about who owns Sora (Disney) so we don't have that discussion 400 times a page.)
 

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Oh Sora, if only you weren't from a Disney property, things would be so much simpler.

I support him. KH remains one of my favorite series, and he's one of those characters that feels like a perfect fit imo. That aside I don't see him as very likely without a LOT of negotiation and hoop jumping on Nintendo's part. The only thing that'd really bother me about him is the inevitable inclusion of non-game related Disney content that would accompany his inclusion.
 

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Another suggestion for the OP. Super smash flash 2's sora.

TIL Sora had a theme. I always imagined that as the gummi ship theme

Also. The best thing they could do if they added Sora to smash?

Let series other than smash itself have music on the title screen. Why? TO have the best goddamn title screen music in gaming in smash
Would never let another song play in my menus.
 
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If only Disney wasn't such a huge stick in the mud (though they do make great films), I'd say Sora would be an easy inclusion.

Still support the cause and maybe a little Riku too if it's not too greedy.
 

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If only Disney wasn't such a huge stick in the mud (though they do make great films), I'd say Sora would be an easy inclusion.

Still support the cause and maybe a little Riku too if it's not too greedy.
Is it bad that I somehow ended up liking Riku more? For a Smash character it's still definitely gotta be Sora and only Sora, but I'd love to see Riku using his Dark Firaga as an assist trophy. What I'd love to see just as much though would be Heartless in Smash Run/Adventure Mode (or whatever equivalent we get in the future.) So many good potential enemies.
 

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Not gonna sign up as a supporter as I'm personally not that fond of the Kingdom Hearts series, but I'm gonna be throw in an unbiased opinion anyway.

Now, gripes aside...

Sora would be the obvious choice if anyone from KH was recruited, no question. He's easily its most iconic character and his moveset practically writes itself. The biggest obstacle as many have stated is Disney stonewalling any hopes of it... but I'm honestly not sure which side of the fence they'd sit on. Cloud and Bayonetta making the cut pretty much decimated both major points of the argument I'd make here against Sora; Bayonetta proved that there's no hoops Nintendo won't jump through to make it work, and Disney could very well want to promote KH3 like Square Enix (who also works on KH) did with Cloud and the FF7 remake.

If you'd asked me about Sora's potential inclusion during the first iteration of Sm4sh's roster, I'd have slapped a dunce cap on your head and reminded you that Disney strangleholds its IPs like Fort Knox relocated into the center of the ****ing Moon. Now though? It's not impossible. The chances of Disney supporting the idea are still a little low, but if they do throw their hat in, Sora in Smash will almost definitely happen.
 
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Really surprised this wasn't a thing yet, regardless I like Sora, and wouldn't mind seeing him in the game.
Would rather have Mickey though tbh
 

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Would rather have Mickey though tbh
[Shrugs] Honestly, if we did get a Disney character in Smash, I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS Mickey Mouse--since quite frankly, he's older and more iconic than Sora. Same goes for Cloud; even before he was revealed, I always believed Cloud's chances of getting Smash were much higher than Sora's. Even though he's seldom appeared on Nintendo platforms, at least Cloud didn't have Disney holding him back.
 

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[Shrugs] Honestly, if we did get a Disney character in Smash, I wouldn't be surprised if it WAS Mickey Mouse--since quite frankly, he's older and more iconic than Sora. Same goes for Cloud; even before he was revealed, I always believed Cloud's chances of getting Smash were much higher than Sora's. Even though he's seldom appeared on Nintendo platforms, at least Cloud didn't have Disney holding him back.
I'd certainly be surprised given that Mickey isn't even eligible for consideration. If someone like Mickey got in, that'd mean that they'd be opening the gates to cartoons/films/etc. which is can of worms best left unopened imo.

Mickey may be much more older and more iconic than Sora, but let's not forget that Smash is about video games. I'd argue that Sora still has a better chance than Mickey on that at least, though otherwise, being a Disney property in general makes them difficult to negotiate. As things currently stand, I see most any of Square Enix's other franchises having a better shot at getting a rep if we were to get another from them.
 

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I support. In the past I didn't see Sora as much of an original fighter, even though I had played KH games before; but now as I rush through KH2 again and unlock more and more combo options, I can see what he'd bring to the table (if well developed).

Which brings me to your commentary for the ballot: frankly, Sora's magic is just that of any other FF protagonist, and is meant to be that way tbh. Let me remind you that Cloud could use magic in his game, too. A Keyblade-focused moveset would seem to fit better.
 

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I'd certainly be surprised given that Mickey isn't even eligible for consideration. If someone like Mickey got in, that'd mean that they'd be opening the gates to cartoons/films/etc. which is can of worms best left unopened imo.

Mickey may be much more older and more iconic than Sora, but let's not forget that Smash is about video games. I'd argue that Sora still has a better chance than Mickey on that at least, though otherwise, being a Disney property in general makes them difficult to negotiate. As things currently stand, I see most any of Square Enix's other franchises having a better shot at getting a rep if we were to get another from them.
Let's be real here, eligibility doesn't really exist. It's just something we talk about, and are wrong on more often then not. Sakurai will put in characters he wants, and that's really all there is to it.

Mickey would probably be a harder character to license, probably a more expensive character too all in all, but if Disney wanted it, I doubt anyone would tell them no; and while fan requests for Goku, and others would shoot through the roof again, there really is a huge jump between letting in the most recognizable face in the world, and any old 4th party character.

That being said, Sora makes more sense from a lot of viewpoints, and he fits well; I'd like to see either one. Seeing this is a Sora thread, I'm here to support Sora.
 

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Which brings me to your commentary for the ballot: frankly, Sora's magic is just that of any other FF protagonist, and is meant to be that way tbh. Let me remind you that Cloud could use magic in his game, too. A Keyblade-focused moveset would seem to fit better.
Hmm, that is true. In one moveset I wrote (might post it in here), only Sora's smash attacks are magick-based, with the rest of his moves being Keyblade-based. Though after reading this, I might change the smash attacks to something more Keyblade-based.
 

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Let's be real here, eligibility doesn't really exist. It's just something we talk about, and are wrong on more often then not. Sakurai will put in characters he wants, and that's really all there is to it.

Mickey would probably be a harder character to license, probably a more expensive character too all in all, but if Disney wanted it, I doubt anyone would tell them no; and while fan requests for Goku, and others would shoot through the roof again, there really is a huge jump between letting in the most recognizable face in the world, and any old 4th party character.

That being said, Sora makes more sense from a lot of viewpoints, and he fits well; I'd like to see either one. Seeing this is a Sora thread, I'm here to support Sora.
It does exist to an extent though. There are many "rules" fans have speculated on and created in the past based on what Sakurai has said (including some mistranslated which caused some further issues) and what he's done. Unless there's something concrete that Sakurai has addressed directly, then I agree that most most rules and aspects regarding eligibility don't apply. This however is the one exception as Sakurai has gone on record, of not taking requests such as Goku and Spongebob into consideration. The ballot also specified video game characters.

I agree that Sakurai (or whatever future director there is if he doesn't return) will put in who they please (with approval from Nintendo and the third party company of course), which is why I brought that up in the first place. At things currently are though, it appears that Sakurai still holds his vision that Smash is a series about video game characters. It's certainly possible he could change his mind, or that his successor as the series' director will see things differently, I'm only referring to the current situation.

It's certainly possible that between the ballot and now, he may have changed his mind again as well, though we won't ever really have a way of knowing til it's happened or he outright goes out of his way to make a further statement which is very unlikely.
 

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if smash five is being made perhaps while nintendo are discussing characters to used in wreck it ralph 2 that might be the time when theyd talk about disney characters in their games like sora in smash
 
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Actually.... I have a friend who works at Disney World. He told me why Kingdom Hearts isn't at the parks - Square has full rights to Kingdom Hearts as a franchise. His example was with Donald and Goofy; Disney owns the characters but not them in those outfits. So... take that as you will.

Also I obviously support.
 

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For KH fans whom haven't learnt yet, KH3 is getting a new world: Toy Story. It seems the unwritten rule of no Pixar films has officially been broken. I posted the trailer in the original post.

With that, maybe we'll get a "Brave" world, too.

[EDIT] And I'll fix the broken images as soon as possible. Damned Photobucket. A little heads-up before hand would have been nice.
 
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For KH fans whom haven't learnt yet, KH3 is getting a new world: Toy Story. It seems the unwritten rule of no Pixar films has officially been broken. I posted the trailer in the original post.

With that, maybe we'll get a "Brave" world, too.

[EDIT] And I'll fix the broken images as soon as possible. Damned Photobucket. A little heads-up before hand would have been nice.
i don't think it was ever an unwritten rule, he's been trying to include toy story for a while

and yes brave would be a glorious world

and yeah thats was mean of photobucket had to sign up to another website just so my sig would work
 

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For KH fans whom haven't learnt yet, KH3 is getting a new world: Toy Story. It seems the unwritten rule of no Pixar films has officially been broken. I posted the trailer in the original post.
Very nice! For Kingdom Hearts III or future games, I would love to see new worlds like...
  • Star Wars
  • Marvel Comics (at least based on The Avengers or Spider-Man)
  • DuckTales
  • Wreck-It Ralph
  • Frozen
  • Alice Comedies (retro world in black and white like Timeless River)
  • Silly Symphonies (retro world based on Three Little Pigs, Big Bad Wolf, The Tortoise and the Hare, The Goddess of Spring, Flowers and Trees, Babes in the Woods, Elmer Elephant, etc.)
  • The Emperor's New Groove
  • The Princess and the Frog
  • Disneyland (the real-life theme park itself in a retro world based on 1950s America)
 
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Very nice! For Kingdom Hearts III or future games, I would love to see new worlds like...
  • Star Wars
  • Marvel Comics (at least based on The Avengers or Spider-Man)
  • DuckTales
  • Wreck-It Ralph
  • Frozen
  • Alice Comedies (retro world in black and white like Timeless River)
  • Silly Symphonies (retro world based on Three Little Pigs, Big Bad Wolf, The Tortoise and the Hare, The Goddess of Spring, Flowers and Trees, Babes in the Woods, Elmer Elephant, etc.)
  • The Emperor's New Groove
  • The Princess and the Frog
  • Disneyland (the real-life theme park itself in a retro world based on 1950s America)
That's a nice list you have there and I agree with most of them.
 

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I remember reading an article saying that Nomura was interested in adding Star Wars characters in KH3. I'll be surprised if Frozen isn't in the game. Duck Tales is a MUST; I would love to see Uncle Scrooge fight.

Personally, I'd like to see a world based on Phantasia 2000, with the Firebird as the main boss.
 

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Frozen, Wreck-It Ralph, and The Jungle Book are probably the three new worlds I want to see the most (Tangled and Toy Story were in my top five, so that pleases me). The worlds for Pirates of the Caribbean and The Hunchback of Notre Dame would be great to see return too.

For more unrealistic suggestions, I'd love to see Marvel (putting this as unrealistic because there's a separate licensing process Marvel stuff goes through), Gravity Falls, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and The Haunted Mansion.



Anyway, Sora would be neat in Smash. I love using him in SSF2.
 
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Frozen, Wreck-It Ralph, and The Jungle Book are probably the three new worlds I want to see the most (Tangled and Toy Story were in my top five, so that pleases me). The worlds for Pirates of the Caribbean and The Hunchback of Notre Dame would be great to see return too.

For more unrealistic suggestions, I'd love to see Marvel (putting this as unrealistic because there's a separate licensing process Marvel stuff goes through), Gravity Falls, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and The Haunted Mansion.



Anyway, Sora would be neat in Smash. I love using him in SSF2.
I've also heard the Alex Hirsch doesn't like Kingdom Hearts.

That sadly makes a Gravity Falls world unlikely as much as I'd like to beat up Bill Cipher.
 

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Actually.... I have a friend who works at Disney World. He told me why Kingdom Hearts isn't at the parks - Square has full rights to Kingdom Hearts as a franchise. His example was with Donald and Goofy; Disney owns the characters but not them in those outfits. So... take that as you will.

Also I obviously support.
That's completely wrong. The first thing you see when booting up the game is (C) Disney, Developed by Square Enix.

Disney owns all original content in Kingdom Hearts.
 
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In addition to Wreck-It Ralph, Pirates, and Robin Hood, it'd be nice to see The Jungle Book, Frozen, Pocahontas, Gravity Falls, and Halloween Town coming back (though what would you really do there that hasn't been done already...?). Or perhaps we could have one based on Frankenweenie! I feel like I'm the only person who remembers that film existed... WALL-E might be cool, but I don't now how they could do it without having to turn Sora and company into robots. Maybe a western world based off Frontierland? A true Tropical Islands version of Lilo & Stitch?

Maybe have a world based off another Square Enix franchise - Chrono Trigger or The World Ends with You, maybe? Neku did say "See you in Shibuya..."

...and of course, I'd love to see Star Butterfly and Marco as summons.
 
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Actually.... I have a friend who works at Disney World. He told me why Kingdom Hearts isn't at the parks - Square has full rights to Kingdom Hearts as a franchise. His example was with Donald and Goofy; Disney owns the characters but not them in those outfits. So... take that as you will.

Also I obviously support.
Literally the first you see every time you turn on any game in the series is "(C)Disney 200X", no offense but I'm more inclined to believe the actual copyright text than 2nd hand info from a carny worker.
 
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as far as worlds id love to see, wreck it ralph, pocahontas, brave, up, the princess and the frog to name a few


mind you theres only been one disney world i was disappointed with
 

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Totally forgot about Atlantis; I'd like to see that as well. Treasure Planet is also a personal favourite of mine.

I added a new screenshot and article to the original post. It seems both Woody and Buzz Lightyear will be fighting, and that four party members can fight with you at the same time. This makes me wonder if other Disney worlds will have two or more party members.
 

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Totally forgot about Atlantis; I'd like to see that as well. Treasure Planet is also a personal favourite of mine.

I added a new screenshot and article to the original post. It seems both Woody and Buzz Lightyear will be fighting, and that four party members can fight with you at the same time. This makes me wonder if other Disney worlds will have two or more party members.
well there's plenty to choose from for big hero 6 and you could easily have rapunzel and eugene
 

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Come to think of it, throughout the KH series, the Hercules world has traditionally featured a Final Fantasy character. Assuming this tradition holds, I wonder which FF character would be featured next? Mine money's on either Lightning or Noctis.
i suppose it could be either of course well probably end up fighting both in the colosseum
 

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I've read from multiple sources that Nomura said a Switch version for KH3 is possible--but not until the PS4 and X1 versions are finished. If that ever does happen, they would probably have to downgrade the graphics, since the Switch is less powerful. That said, however, I'm not getting mine hopes up. Nevertheless, it would be a pleasant surprise.
 

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What. But That was just for the first game.
Square is the publisher not Disney.
Yes, the publisher. Not the IP owner or copyright holder.

Nintendo of America publishes the Professor Layton games, but Nintendo doesn't own Layton. Bandai Namco developed Smash 4 but doesn't own Smash Bros. Square Enix develops and publishes Kingdom Hearts but doesn't own the original characters.
 
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