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Sonic's Dash Pivot assistance

Sagen du Smash

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How do you dash pivot with Sonic? I can preform Sonic's grind animation, but I can't get Sonic to do what KID describes.

When you do the first foxtrot away from them it gives them a false sence of security that they can just land, but with the dash pivot you can instantly be moving at max speed in the opposite direction, and then get a running grab on them right as they land.
 

Tenki

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you brought it up yourself in that one thread when you asked about how Espy was 'turning so fast'.

There's also that rFAQ where you can ask questions without getting attacked =/

I believe there's a video somewhere, I'll try to find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM7u8w5CUow&fmt=18

Later on, I have found links to individual parts in the video that show what I'm talking about.

I also had a thread on Foxtrot and Pivot moves at one point ( I think that might have even be the title ), so use the search feature if you want more detail, but this post is much better organized and has vids, lol.



Basically, the building blocks of the whole thing are:
Foxtrot - Rhythmically tapping [forward] to enter that "slide"/"grind" animation, then [forward] again as it's ending. You can actually alter the timing between taps to throw your opponent off.

inputs:
[Forward] > [Forward] > [Forward]...

Video:
Dashdance

Dashdance - Hitting [forward]-[back] or [back]-[forward] quickly (optionally, repeatedly). You should stop it when you hit the direction you want to eventually be moving in. If you let go immediately after hitting a direction, you will perform a foxtrot in the direction you just hit.

inputs:
a) [Forward]-[Back]
b) [Back]-[Forward]
c) [Forward]-[Back]-[Forward]-[Back]...

Video:
Foxtrotting



Put together, you can do Foxtrots - When foxtrotting, you use a quick single [forward]-[back] input (in other words, 1 "dash dance") to turn around, and from that point, you can foxtrot in the opposite direction. When you use a dashdance to 'turn' a foxtrot, we usually call it a Dash dance pivot (DDP).

Now, we can do these in succession to do a "Foxtrot Dance", which is repeatedly linking dash dance pivots to each other.

inputs:
[Forward]-[Back] > [Back]-[Forward] > ...

Video:
Foxtrot Dance/ Dashdance Pivots

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What KID describes in your original post is doing a retreating foxtrot to bait them and make them feel "safe" to land, then immediately doing a dashdance pivot to move back in range and catch their landing with a grab or something useful.

In other words:
[Back] > (small delay) > [Back]-[Forward] > (hold forward and shieldgrab or just dashgrab)
 
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