[solved] Strange Zair tech help

[redcometchar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXfvQDo9Ro&index=2&list=LLUUIrCgqmhsdVuOC-WguhEQ&t=0s

In this video at :30 and again at :50 lucas appears to do a djc zair or something similar. In the comments the Author says the inputs are "jump + (jump + z)" but doesnt go into further detail.

In frame by frame, doing a zair and a jump on the same frame results in a normal zair. Doing a jump and then on the next frame doing a zair results in a rising zair. It also is not an airdodge cancel into zair.

Anyone know whats going on here?

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Make sure you are holding a direction when you input the zair and jump on the same frame. I believe it can't be done with the control stick in the neutral position.

Someone might have to correct me. I'm still working on getting this down with any kind of consistency myself.

 

[redcometchar]

Yep thats it. Thanks a bunch.

 

[Schmidty]

Its double jump cancelling from melee. You have to act right after you input your second jump.

 

[redcometchar]

Its double jump cancelling from melee. You have to act right after you input your second jump.

in melee you didnt have to hold forward during the dj, and also in melee you had to input an attack after the dj not at the same time so its a little different which is why i couldnt figure out how to do it.