Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Use Smashboards links to get your gaming stuff and support the site, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, GameCube Controller Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Edition, Nintendo Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Edition Pro Controller - Switch, a Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Edition - Switch or a Poké Ball Plus.
They're all bodied by helicopter kick kills at 30% or lower, cloud is gimped to death super easily by brawler, bayonetta hates grabs, mario wont kill before being killedMaybe some top tier with better range, like Cloud. There's also the chance that Witch time or Mario's throw combos would rain on your parade. Tiny brawler is solidly a top tier, but it's not really better than current top tiers.
I did get bodied by one in an online tourney, though.
They're all bodied by helicopter kick kills at 30% or lower, cloud is gimped to death super easily by brawler, bayonetta hates grabs, mario wont kill before being killed
but then you realize mii brawler has combos up the ass and the best time out in the entire game bar maybe sonic, and yes, Brawler actually does have easybake combos, and dthrow to fair to helicopter kick actually works and is true almost regardless of your so called DISure, but Brawler doesn't really have the easy spacing and juggling of Cloud, the easy combos of Bayonetta, or the Up-smash of Mario. If anything, Mii Brawler has a bad neutral compared to these characters, because he must rack damage with weak and very tiny hitboxes. He can be killed by virtually any spike, and must consistently read DI. Helicopter kick is a very good move, but once you play around it, it's like any other top tier MU. D-throw to kick is both percent and DI dependent.
The online tourney I was talking about was notable for its free miis, and I was eager to try out a small Mii Swordfighter. The matchup with Mii Brawler was pretty atrocious, but it was in line with other top tiers I had to fight as well. IIRC, the Brawler sent me to losers and eventually a Fox knocked me out of the tourney.
I wouldn't say Marth has too good of a MU vs him, its sorta like the pikachu MU but without projectiles and instead he can kill you at like 30%, the mobility is more than enough to compensate for the lack of range.It's a interesting question. As a person who plays small mii brawler 2122 where ever it's legal, a lot of people have trouble vs him. I don't know if this is because of matchup inexperience. But I do find that the players who use characters that have respectable range do better. Now I don't know if that's just me, but I would say he might have a slightly disadvantageous matchup vs marth IN THEORY. Now in practice i'm not too sure since I never encounter many marth's in my area outside my friends.
I would say marth also has good mobility, but no where near the same as brawler. The dthrow to helicopter kick combo also doesn't seem to work as long on marth, most likely due to him being floatly. But I still see it as a slightly disadvantageous for brawler because getting in might be a problem due to the lack of range, but is compensated by the mobility I guess? But recklessly approaching with just mobility will get you punished.I wouldn't say Marth has too good of a MU vs him, its sorta like the pikachu MU but without projectiles and instead he can kill you at like 30%, the mobility is more than enough to compensate for the lack of range.