Media Smash'N'Splash 5 + DreamHack Weekend

[SchwiftyR]

Seeding:

1. Tweek
2. Marss
3. MkLeo
4. Nairo
5. Light
6. Samsora
7. Dabuz
8. Cosmos
9. Ally
10. Shoyo James
11. Salem
12. Myran
13. VoiD
14. Wishes
15. Mr. R
16. WaDi
17. Stroder
18. Maister
19. yeti
20. Dark Wizzy
21. Mr. E
22. Ryuga
23. Goblin
24. Ned
25. NAKAT
26. Suarez
27. 8BitMan
28. Pelca
29. Gackt
30. Gen
31. ZD
32. CaptainZack
33. Captain L
34. dyr
35. UtopianRay
36. LingLing
37. BestNess
38. Lui$
39. Leffen
40. Pandarian
41. ScAtt
42. LeoN
43. ven
44. Magister
45. Raffi-X
46. Seth
47. The Great Gonzales
48. Blacktwins13
49. Daybreak
50. Juice
51. Skilly
52. Geist
53. Blank
54. BlazingPasta
55. Plup
56. Odyssey
57. Gomakenpi
58. ATATA
59. Tyroy
60. Strike
61. DM
62. NickC
63. Shoe
64. sinnyboo242

 

[Ziodyne 21]

Well I know S'n'S5 may seem not terribly relevsnt since its being played on Ver 3.0.1 But there have been some pretty notable upsets already in pools.

Juice 2-1 Mr.R

Gomakenpi 2-1 Cosmos


I bet Cosmos is really looking forward to nerfed Olimar now.

 

[NotLiquid]

On the topic of Smash n Splash, it has a fairly unique Pools Setup. I don't expect too many top players to drown, despite one or two upsets.

 

[Lacrimosa]

One other upset seedwise probably happened in Swiss Pool F3.
Gack ( can't imagine he went another character) 0-2 ven ()

 

[KirbySquad101]

Moar upsets:

Seth 2-0s Maister in Swiss Pool D3, knocking him down to Division 2.

A bit surprised about this one, as Maister does have experience fighting Yoshi thanks to Meme, but Seth did very well overall.

 

[Thinkaman]

Aside: As of 3:30pm tournament time (on Saturday of a 3-day tournament), Smash N Splash Ultimate has already run more than 50% more matches per entrant than an entire double elim bracket. A double elim bracket runs 2 games per player, and they just passed 3x.

 

[NotLiquid]

I know Wizzrobe is generally a Smash virtuoso, but this is a pretty big upset nonetheless.

Tweek 1- 3 Wizzrobe

Entered this tournament being number 1 seed, already sent to Losers at the start of Top 64. Wolf not dead yet.

 

[Yonder]

Wizzrobe (Wolf) 3-1 Tweek (Joker, Wario, Roy)

Wow!

 

[uhmuzing]

Wild wild wild, Tweek got upset by Wizzrobe 3-1
Tweek's got a loooong losers run ahead of him.

lol ninja'd

 

[The_Bookworm]

LeeT 3-0 Blacktwins

Also, Elegant 3-1 Maister to eliminate him at 65th place. Elegant did lose to RFang 3-0 afterwards to end his run at 49th place.

Btw, does anyone know who Mr E used to beat Myran 3-1?

 

[MarioManTAW]

LeeT 3-0 Blacktwins

Also, Elegant 3-1 Maister to eliminate him at 65th place. Elegant did lose to RFang 3-0 afterwards to end his run at 49th place.

Btw, does anyone know who Mr E used to beat Myran 3-1?

Pretty sure Mr. E is solo but I could be wrong.

 

[The_Bookworm]

Raffi-X 3-0 ZD to eliminate him at 49th place.

 

[Game7a1]

LeeT 3-0 Blacktwins

Also, Elegant 3-1 Maister to eliminate him at 65th place. Elegant did lose to RFang 3-0 afterwards to end his run at 49th place.

Btw, does anyone know who Mr E used to beat Myran 3-1?

We're in top 64, so it should be 49th and 33rd respectively.

 

[Gérard Majax]

Nairo 3-2 CaptainZack

Bayo almost looked like a good character in the first 3 games. Idk how much of it was due to matchup inexperience (Nairo could have punished some lag here and here), but Zack's damage output was really good, and he managed to get 2-1 despite the fact that Palu kills randomly at 140 while he had to work more for his kills (he even did a ladder at 90 lol).

Then Nairo switched to lucina, put him repeatedly at the ledge and destroyed him. Interested to see what Zack will do in 3.1.0 though.

 

[NotLiquid]

The Great Gonzales 3 - 1 Tweek

Kind of a sloppy tournament for Tweek. He would've gotten 3-0'd if Great Gonzales didn't SD twice in the third game - and he almost got reverse 3 stocked.

Nairo 3-2 CaptainZack

Bayo almost looked like a good character in the first 3 games. Idk how much of it was due to matchup inexperience (Nairo could have punished some lag here and here), but Zack's damage output was really good, and he managed to get 2-1 despite the fact that Palu kills randomly at 140 while he had to work more for his kills (he even did a ladder at 90 lol).

Then Nairo switched to lucina, put him repeatedly at the ledge and destroyed him. Interested to see what Zack will do in 3.1.0 though.

Lucina is the closest thing Bayonetta has to a hard counter. Good frame data, good range, decent kill moves - all things Bayonetta lacks.

 

[The_Bookworm]

ScAtt 3-0 Myran
A pretty meh way of saying farewell to 3.0.1. Olimar for him, eliminated this early. That being said, I am not sure he is really in a game time mentality.

 

[IceAnt573]

Going by this, I assume Mr. E has been solo Lucina for singles so far.

 

[Ziodyne 21]

I know Wizzrobe is generally a Smash virtuoso, but this is a pretty big upset nonetheless.

Tweek 1- 3 Wizzrobe

Entered this tournament being number 1 seed, already sent to Losers at the start of Top 64. Wolf not dead yet.

The Great Gonzales 3 - 1 Tweek

Kind of a sloppy tournament for Tweek. He would've gotten 3-0'd if Great Gonzales didn't SD twice in the third game - and he almost got reverse 3 stocked.



Lucina is the closest thing Bayonetta has to a hard counter. Good frame data, good range, decent kill moves - all things Bayonetta lacks.

Well, even the best have bad days. That being Palu can be a bit rough for Wario

 

[Rizen]

It's hard to be consistant in this game. So this tournament was pre-patch?

 

[The_Bookworm]

It's hard to be consistant in this game. So this tournament was pre-patch?

This tournament is in 3.0.1. I am not sure if DreamHack Dallas is also 3.0.1, but I can imagine so.

 

[The_Bookworm]

CaptainZack reverse 3-0 on Goblin to eliminate him at 33rd place.

In case any of you are wondering, Goblin confirmed that Zack used Peach.

Also, RFang 3-1 Mr.R to eliminate him at 25th place.

 

[Envoy of Chaos]

RFang plays Pichu and Young Link but has been using Pichu this whole tournament so far.

Mr. R also played Snake against RFang

 

[The_Bookworm]

Nairo gets double eliminated by . 3-1 by VoiD and 3-1 by NAKAT to end his run at 17th.

 

[The_Bookworm]

ScAtt eliminates Salem at 17th place.

 

[NotLiquid]

LeoN 3 - 0 Cosmos

That was a uh, pretty violent set.

Cosmos was playing that pretty sub-optimally. Too scared to gentleman jab, too many whiffed grabs, not enough splat bomb checking.

 

[uhmuzing]

That was completely nuts. Games 1 and 2 were both three-stocks by Leon. He almost won the whole set without dying once.

 

[The_Bookworm]

Smash'N'Splash 5 Top 8

Winner's
Ally vs VoiD
Marss vs MkLeo


Loser's
NAKAT vs Samsora
Wizzrobe vs Dabuz


Not one, but two Pichu players in top 8 this tournament. Too bad this is happening on 3.0.1 instead.
Wizzrobe making top 8 is also crazy as well. You can throw any Smash game on front of his face and he will simply flow with it.
Also, we almost had a Bowser player in top 8. Let that sink in for a second.



DreamHack Dallas Top 8

Winner's
ANTi vs Awestin
ESAM vs ARMY


Loser's
MVD vs Fatality
AvoiD vs MuteAce


I didn't know Awestin even participated in this tournament. This will be interesting to see.

 

[KirbySquad101]

It was kinda rough to find out Maister got knocked out pretty early, especially after doing so well at Combo Breaker :\ At least he did a lot better here than at Genesis 6, but I’m hoping he’ll be able to bounce back next time.

That said, really enjoyed the diversity of this tournament’s top 64: There were two s in top 64, a , and a who almost placed top 8.

Also, may be losing a main as Ryuga was really fustrated with his performance; he posted this afterwards:

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[Iridium]

Smash'N'Splash 5 Top 8

Winner's
Ally vs VoiD
Marss vs MkLeo


Loser's
NAKAT vs Samsora
Wizzrobe vs Dabuz


Not one, but two Pichu players in top 8 this tournament. Too bad this is happening on 3.0.1 instead.
Wizzrobe making top 8 is also crazy as well. You can throw any Smash game on front of his face and he will simply flow with it.
Also, we almost had a Bowser player in top 8. Let that sink in for a second.



DreamHack Dallas Top 8

Winner's
ANTi vs Awestin
ESAM vs ARMY (Not the player, I think...)


Loser's
MVD vs Fatality
AvoiD vs MuteAce


I didn't know Awestin even participated in this tournament. This will be interesting to see.

This is a different ARMY who uses Olimar. AvoiD is a Snake.

 

[uhmuzing]

My take, Joker looks straight-up broken in Leo's hands. I'm pretty confident he's going to take the whole tournament with seeming ease tomorrow (and I bet he'll fight Ally in WFs if not GFs), the guy is I think indisputably the best Ultimate player right now. He gets upset a decent amount of time and has some shockingly low placings, but when he's at peak he just clobbers everyone, even arguably top 5 players.

I'm hype af about Wizzy's making top 8 but I think Dabuz is gonna win dominantly. NAKAT I see as having better odds of advancing past the first round.

 

[Rizen]

It looks like Tweek used a little but didn't preform well. Overall it's another of many disappointing turn outs for YL. For all the Links.

 

[KirbySquad101]

To be fair, a lot of players didn’t seem to perform as well as usual for this tournament: Salem and Dark Wizzy each only got 25th before gettting eliminated, Nairo surprisingly wasn’t able to break top 16, Goblin and Stroder only got 33rd before getting eliminated, Cosmos got torn to shreds by Leon... Some players like Ling Ling and Daybreak couldn’t even hit top 64. Gackt and Maister most likely had it the worst with both placing at 49th despite their seedlings.

Dark Wizzy even made a joke about it on his Twitter lol:

LMFAO i walked up to Nairo, Light, and Cosmos at this restaurant table and was like “oh is this the we only got in the top 32 range table”

They all looked mad LOL

Gladly took my seat 💀💀💀

— ⚔️ Stride | Dark Wizzy ⚔️ (@Dark_Wizzy_) June 2, 2019

Part of it could be because of people’s frustration with the format of this tournament: Come to Papa already had a mixed reception for its “Round Robin” format, and in a tournament as big as this, there is little doubt that it must’ve caused a lot of fatigue for players.

To be honest, I do feel this placements are impressive overall for a tournament of this caliber, but I can see why others - especially the players themselves - would think otherwise.

On the other hand, Leon, ScAtt, Wizzrobe, and Nakat were absolute monsters this tournament, especially Nakat with how quickly he tore through Nairo, Shoyo, Mr E, and yeti. To be honest, that is a definitely a nice change of pace from the usual Top 8’s we have come to expect, and it’s a good thing others are stepping their game up.

Honestly, based on just how much of a hard time was giving everyone this tournament, I think everyone is ready for 3.1.0.

 

[Lacrimosa]

I still stand by what I said: Yes, Swiss Pools are only useful in rather big tournaments, however they should have never ever introduced that at an S-tier event like Smash 'n Splash. They should have chosen Combo Breaker or Albion (which starts in a few days) for that. They also had a lot of attendees but it would've been much easier to organize there and in would've happened in a less important tournament. When choosing such a big tournament, where seeds and money matters even more I can imagine a lot of player don't really like that.
First let the people accustom to a new format, then do it at a major event if it was a good format.


Also it seems Ven isn't quite happy with the 33rd place, edespite him doing really well overall. Still...2 Zeldas at such an event is great as that was impossible to see in every other Smash game..:3.

 

[The_Bookworm]

Final results for DreamHack Dallas 2019 (Note: this tournament uses 3.0.1)

1st: MuteAce
2nd: ANTi
3rd: ESAM
4th: ARMY
5th: Fatality
5th: Awestin
7th: MVD
7th: AvoiD
9th: Larry Lurr
9th: Cheeks
9th: Danbi
9th: Hakii

Other Notable Players Knocked Earlier
13th: Slither2Hunter
17th: Zenyou
17th: JaySon
17th: Shadow_PR
17th: SaSSy
25th: Karna
25th: Sandstorm

 

[NuzTheMonkey]

Wizzrobe. Top 8 in Ultimate, and winner of Melee. What a player.

 

[The_Bookworm]

Wizzrobe. Top 8 in Ultimate, and winner of Melee. What a player.

One of the best 64 players (the best player). Top 20 (sometimes top 10) caliber Melee player (one of, if not, the best player).
He is also very talented (Brawl), (PM), and player to boot. And now his performance here with .


Throw Wizzrobe a Smash game, and Wizzrobe just takes it under a scope and adapts to it. He is truly amazing.

Edit: Speaking of which, he just won the singles event for Melee singles in Smash'N'Splash.

 

[The_Bookworm]

NAKAT 2-3 Samsora
The funny thing about this set is that after Samsora lost the first two games, he counterpicked to Daisy and won the next three. lol
The power of the princess counterpick is strong, even if they are virtually the same character.

Dabuz 3-0 Wizzrobe
Not too big of a surprise, but very nice effort from Wizzrobe regardless. He just got top 8 in Ultimate singles and won the entire Melee singles event.

 

[Rizen]

One of the best 64 players (the best player). Top 20 (sometimes top 10) caliber Melee player (one of, if not, the best player).
He is also very talented (Brawl), (PM), and player to boot. And now his performance here with .


Throw Wizzrobe a Smash game, and Wizzrobe just takes it under a scope and adapts to it. He is truly amazing.

Edit: Speaking of which, he just won the singles event for Melee singles in Smash'N'Splash.

You'd think playing all these different yet similar smash games would mess with his head.

 

[The_Bookworm]

Ally 3-1 VoiD
After losing the first two games, VoiD's Joker came in and took game 3. However, Ally takes game 4 and moves on to winner's finals to fight the winner of Marss vs MkLeo.

 

[The_Bookworm]

MkLeo 3-1 Marss
MkLeo will fight Ally in winner's finals.

Samsora 3-0 VoiD
This eliminates VoiD at 5th place. Despite all the powers of the counterpick, Samsora simply gives VoiD the princess smack. I bet he can't wait for 3.1.0, where the smack doesn't kill until about 7% later.