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SmashBoards Creates: What if Smash Ultimate had another year of development? (Job #26: Challenger Pack #2 criteria)

Perkilator

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After looking back on my Melee thread as well as the Next Smash thread, I decided to ponder the idea of Ultimate getting another year of development as well.

A few ground rules:
  1. "Everyone is Here!" is still a thing, so we can't replace any of the fighters who appeared in previous games
  2. Inkling will still be the first newcomer revealed in trailers
  3. Depending on what kind of job we do, that job will have its own set of rules
  4. The base roster will cap at Fighers #71-75 plus some extra Echo Fighters
Original 12
Melee
Brawl
3DS / Wii U
Ultimate
  • #1. Mario​
  • #2. Donkey Kong​
  • #3. Link​
  • #4. Samus​
    • #4ε. Dark Samus​
  • #5. Yoshi​
  • #6. Kirby​
  • #7. Fox​
  • #8. Pikachu​
  • #9. Luigi​
  • #10. Ness​
  • #11. Captain Falcon​
  • #12. Jigglypuff​
  • #13. Peach​
  • #14. Bowser​
  • #15. Ice Climbers​
  • #16. Sheik​
  • #17. Zelda​
  • #18. Dr. Mario​
  • #19. Pichu​
  • #20. Falco​
  • #21. Marth​
    • #21ε. Lucina​
  • #22. Young Link​
  • #23. Ganondorf​
  • #24. Mewtwo​
  • #25. Roy​
  • #26. Mr. Game & Watch​
  • #27. Meta Knight​
    • #27ε. Galacta Knight​
  • #28. Pit​
    • #28ε. Dark Pit​
  • #29. Zero Suit Samus​
  • #30. Wario​
  • #31. Snake​
  • #32. Ike​
  • Pokémon Trainer​
    • #33. Squirtle​
    • #34. Ivysaur​
    • #35. Charizard​
  • #36. Diddy Kong​
    • #36ε. Dixie Kong​
  • #37. Lucas​
  • #38. Sonic​
    • #38ε. Shadow
  • #39. King Dedede​
  • #40. Olimar​
  • #41. Lucario​
  • #42. R.O.B.​
  • #43. Toon Link​
  • #44. Wolf​
  • #45. Villager​
  • #46. Mega Man​
  • #47. Wii Fit Trainer​
  • #48. Rosalina & Luma​
  • #49. Little Mac​
  • #50. Greninja​
  • Mii Fighters​
    • #51. Mii Brawler​
    • #52. Mii Swordfighter​
    • #53. Mii Gunner​
  • #54. Palutena​
  • #55. PAC-MAN​
  • #56. Robin​
    • #56ε. Celica​
  • #57. Shulk​
  • #58. Bowser Jr.​
  • #59. Duck Hunt​
  • #60. Ryu​
    • #60ε. Ken​
  • #61. Cloud​
  • #62. Corrin​
  • #63. Bayonetta​
    • #63ε. Jeanne​
  • #64. Inkling​
    • #64ε. Octoling​
  • #65. Banjo & Kazooie​
  • #66. Ridley​
  • #67. King K. Rool​
  • #68-69. Pyra & Mythra
  • #70. Incineroar​
  • #71. Mimikyu​
  • #72. Slippy​
  • #73. Min Min​
  • #74. Ayumi Tachibana​
  • #75. Simon Belmont​
Free UpdatesFighters Pass Vol. 1Fighters Pass Vol. 2
  • #76. Isaac
  • #78. Excitebiker






  1. E3 2018
  2. A stage from Splatoon & Banjo-Kazooie
  3. How many stages should return? Which ones?
  4. Two Nintendo fan-favorites
  5. Four new Mario stages
  6. A character from the first year of the Switch
  7. A stage from Xenoblade Chronicles 2
  8. Two Alola Pokémon
  9. A stage from Pokémon Gen VII
  10. A wacky surprise character
  11. A stage from a series debuting in 64
  12. Another character from the first year of the Switch & their stage
  13. A character & stage originally planned to be in Smash at some point
  14. 6 more Echo Fighters
  15. A stage for R.O.B.
  16. Final base game fighter
    • Music submissions open after this job
  17. Game modes
  18. Adventure Mode
  19. Adventure Mode stages
  20. Starting roster & demo loadout
  21. Discussion #1: DLC
  22. Free update character #1: Former Assist Trophy
  23. Items, Assist Trophies & Poké Balls
  24. Challenger Pack #1
  25. Story Mode routes for 64 fighters
  26. Free update character #2: NES era character
  27. Challenger Pack #2 criteria
  • Group
    • Vs. Mode
    • Squad Strike
    • Tourney
    • Special Smash
      • Smashdown
      • Super Sudden Death
      • Coin Smash
      • Custom Smash
  • Solo
    • Arcade
      • Classic Mode (branching paths depending on your performance)
      • Story Mode (each fighter has a predetermined route)
      • All-Star (opponents are fought by game of debut)
    • Stadium
      • Home-Run Contest
      • Volleyball
      • Mob Smash
        • Century Smash
        • Rival Smash (two different characters compete for the highest KO score)
        • Cruel Smash
      • Boss Battles
    • Creative Corner
      • Mode Builder (create your own Target Test and Story route and share them online)
      • Stage Builder
      • Mii Fighters
    • Training
  • Spirits
  • Online
    • With Anyone
      • For Fun
      • For Glory
    • With Friends
    • Online Tourney
      • Regular
      • Event
      • Spectate
    • Shared Content
  • Vault
    • Sounds
    • Replays
      • Video Editor
    • Records
      • Stats
      • Milestones
      • Battle Data
      • Smash Tags
      • Past Opponents
    • Challenges
    • Tips
    • Movies
    • Shop
    • amiibo
  • Dashboard
    • Return to Main Menu
    • Collection
    • Local Wireless
    • News
    • Options
    • Help
  1. Assist Trophy
  2. Barrel
  3. Beam Sword
  4. Blast Box
  5. Bumper
  6. Capsule
  7. CD
  8. Cloaking Device
  9. Cracker Launcher
  10. Crate / Rolling Crate
  11. Drill
  12. Fan
  13. Food
  14. Gooey Bomb
  15. Home-Run Bat
  16. Motion-Sensor Bomb
  17. Parasol
  18. Party Ball
  19. Ray Gun
  20. Sandbag
  21. Smash Ball
  22. Smoke Ball
  23. Soccer Ball
  24. Team Healer
  25. Timer
  26. Super Mushroom
  27. Poison Mushroom
  28. Fire Flower
  29. Green Shell
  30. Red Shell
  31. Blue Shell
  32. Bob-omb
  33. Banana Peel
  34. Bullet Bill
  35. Boomerang
  36. POW Block
  37. Fire Bar
  38. Freezie
  39. Grass
  40. Hothead
  41. Lightning Bolt
  42. Metal Box
  43. Super Star
  44. Super Leaf
  45. Golden Hammer
  46. Barrel Cannon
  47. Hammer
  48. Spring
  49. Beetle
  50. Bombchu
  51. Bunny Hood
  52. Cucco
  53. Deku Nut
  54. Fairy Bottle
  55. Gust Bellows
  56. Heart Container
  57. Screw Attack
  58. Dragoon
  59. Maxim Tomato
  60. Star Rod
  61. Superspicy Curry
  62. Warp Star
  63. Smart Bomb
  64. Poké Ball
  65. Master Ball
  66. Franklin Badge
  67. Mr. Saturn
  68. Back Shield
  69. Daybreak
  70. Killer Eye
  71. Ore Club
  72. X Bomb
  73. Hocotate Bomb
  74. Beehive
  75. Pitfall
  76. Boss Galaga
  77. Special Flag
  78. Flipper
  79. Lip's Stick
  80. Rocket Belt
  81. Steel Diver
  82. Super Scope
  83. Unira
  1. Hammer Bro
  2. Lakitu and Spinies
  3. Waluigi
  4. Chain Chomp
  5. Flies & Hand
  6. Daisy
  7. Cranky Kong
  8. Tingle
  9. Ghirahim
  10. Midna
  11. Skull Kid
  12. Guardian
  13. Guardian Scout
  14. Metroid
  15. Mother Brain
  16. Adam Malkovich
  17. Sylux
  18. Toadies
  19. Knuckle Joe
  20. Nightmare
  21. Susie
  22. Prince Fluff
  23. Andross
  24. Krystal
  25. Slot Machine
  26. Jeff
  27. Starman
  28. Porky
  29. Samurai Goroh
  30. Pico
  31. Dr. Clash
  32. Polar Bear
  33. Lyn
  34. Pegasus Sisters
  35. Anna
  36. Manhole
  37. Magnus
  38. Phosphora
  39. Reaper
  40. Pandora (Flame)
  41. Kat and Ana
  42. Ashley
  43. Rudy
  44. Mona
  45. Gray Fox
  46. Psycho Mantis
  47. Dr. Eggman
  48. Gamma
  49. Red Bulborb
  50. Beady Long Legs
  51. Kapp'n
  52. Jack
  53. Mr. Resetti
  54. Isabelle
  55. Elec Man
  56. Ghost Gang
  57. Riki
  58. Barbara
  59. Devil
  60. Dr. Wright
  61. Excitebike
  62. Helirin
  63. Infantry & Tanks
  64. Jill
  65. Nintendog
  66. Ray Mk. III
  67. Saki Amamiya
  68. Starfy
  69. Color TV-Game 15
  70. Dillon
  71. Dr. Kawashima
  72. Sablé Prince
  73. Sheriff
  74. Takamaru
  75. You can find the rest of the submissions here and here
  1. Venusaur (Solar Beam)
  2. Blastoise (Hydro Pump)
  3. Beedrill (Poison Jab)
  4. Clefairy (Follow Me)
  5. Electrode (Explode)
  6. Meowth (Pay Day)
  7. Onix (Rock Tomb)
  8. Hitmonlee (Close Combat)
  9. Koffing (Poison Gas)
  10. Weezing (Smokescreen)
  11. Chansey (Softboiled)
  12. Goldeen (Splash)
  13. Staryu (Swift)
  14. Starmie (Rapid Spin)
  15. Ditto (Transform)
  16. Eevee (Take Down)
  17. Snorlax (Body Slam)
  18. Articuno (Icy Wind)
  19. Zapdos (Discharge)
  20. Moltres (Flame Charge)
  21. Mew (Fly)
  22. Chikorita (Razor Leaf)
  23. Cyndaquil (Inferno)
  24. Togepi (Metronome)
  25. Bellossom (Sweet Scent)
  26. Marill (Tackle)
  27. Unown (Hidden Power)
  28. Wobbuffet (Destiny Bond)
  29. Scizor (Metal Claw)
  30. Porygon2 (Signal Beam)
  31. Raikou (Thunder Fang)
  32. Entei (Fire Spin)
  33. Suicune (Aurora Beam)
  34. Lugia (Aeroblast)
  35. Ho-Oh (Sacred Fire)
  36. Celebi (Nature Power)
  37. Torchic (Flame Burst)
  38. Gardevoir (Reflect)
  39. Gulpin (Swallow)
  40. Metagross (Earthquake)
  41. Latios & Latias (Steel Wing)
  42. Kyogre (Origin Pulse)
  43. Groudon (Precipice Blades)
  44. Jirachi (Wish)
  45. Deoxys (Hyper Beam)
  46. Piplup (Bubble Beam)
  47. Bonsly (Sturdy)
  48. Munchlax (Pickup)
  49. Weavile (False Swipe)
  50. Abomasnow (Ice Punch)
  51. Palkia (Spacial Rend)
  52. Giratina (Shadow Force)
  53. Manaphy (Heart Swap)
  54. Darkrai (Dark Void)
  55. Arceus (Judgement)
  56. Victini (Victory Star)
  57. Snivy (Leaf Storm)
  58. Oshawott (Surf)
  59. Zoroark (Fury Swipes)
  60. Kyurem (Glaciate)
  61. Keldeo (Secret Sword)
  62. Meloetta (Relic Song)
  63. Genesect (Techno Blast)
  64. Chespin (Seed Bomb)
  65. Fennekin (Incinerate)
  66. Spewpa (Stun Spore)
  67. Gogoat (Take Down)
  68. Swirlix (Cotton Spore)
  69. Inkay (Topsy-Turvy)
  70. Dedenne (Nuzzle)
  71. Xerneas (Geomancy)
(* denotes Stages that don't appear when you select Stage Morph)
(** desnotes Stages whose main gimmick is altered depending on which character you play as)
  1. Peach's Castle
  2. Kongo Jungle
  3. Hyrule Castle
  4. Planet Zebes
  5. Super Happy Tree
  6. Dream Land
  7. Sector Z
  8. Saffron City
  9. Mushroom Kingdom (64)
  10. Meta Crystal
  1. Princess Peach's Castle
  2. Rainbow Cruise
  3. Mushroom Kingdom (Melee)
  4. Kongo Falls
  5. Jungle Japes
  6. Great Bay
  7. Temple
  8. Brinstar
  9. Yoshi's Island (Melee)
  10. Yoshi's Story
  11. Fountain of Dreams
  12. Green Greens
  13. Corneria
  14. Venom
  15. Pokémon Stadium
  16. Onett
  17. Mute City
  18. Icicle Mountain*
  19. Mushroom Kingdom II
  20. Brinstar Depths
  21. Poké Floats*
  22. Fourside
  23. Big Blue
  24. Flat Zone
  1. Delfino Plaza
  2. Mushroomy Kingdom
  3. Figure-8 Circuit
  4. WarioWare, Inc.
  5. Rumble Falls*
  6. Bridge of Eldin
  7. Norfair
  8. Frigate Orpheon
  9. Yoshi's Island (Brawl)
  10. Halberd
  11. Lylat Cruise
  12. Pokémon Stadium 2
  13. New Pork City
  14. Port Town Aero Dive
  15. Summit
  16. Castle Siege
  17. Skyworld
  18. Distant Planet
  19. Smashville
  20. Pictochat
  21. Shadow Moses Island
  22. Luigi's Mansion
  23. Mario Bros.
  24. 75m
  25. Pirate Ship
  26. Spear Pillar
  27. Flat Zone 2
  28. Hanenbow
  29. Green Hill Zone
3DS only
  1. 3D Land
  2. Golden Plains
  3. Rainbow Road
  4. Paper Mario
  5. Gerudo Valley
  6. Spirit Train
  7. Dream Land GB
  8. Unova Pokémon League
  9. Prism Tower
  10. Magicant
  11. Mute City SNES
  12. Arena Ferox
  13. Reset Bomb Forest
  14. Tortimer Island
  15. Balloon Fight
  16. Living Room
  17. Find Mii
  18. Tomodachi Life
  19. Pictochat 2
  20. PAC-MAZE

Wii U only
  1. Mushroom Kingdoom U
  2. Mario Galaxy
  3. Mario Circuit
  4. Jungle Hijinx
  5. Skyloft
  6. Pyrosphere**
  7. Woolly World
  8. The Great Cave Offensive
  9. Orbital Gate Assault*
  10. Kalos Pokémon League
  11. Coliseum
  12. Flat Zone X
  13. Palutena's Temple
  14. Gamer
  15. Garden of Hope
  16. Town and City
  17. Wii Fit Studio
  18. Duck Hunt
  19. Wrecking Crew
  20. Pilotwings
  21. Wuhu Island
  22. Windy Hill Zone
  23. PAC-LAND

Both versions
  1. Boxing Ring
  2. Gaur Plain
  3. Wily Castle
  4. Super Mario Maker
  5. Suzaku Castle
  6. Midgar
  7. Umbra Clock Tower
  1. Battlefield
  2. Big Battlefield
  3. Final Destination
  4. New Donk City Hall
  5. Bowser's Castle
  6. Waluigi Pinball
  7. Dr. Mario
  8. Gangplank Galleon
  9. Great Plateau Tower
  10. Clock Town
  11. SR-388
  12. Chozo Ruins
  13. Yoshi's New Island
  14. Piranha Sewer
  15. Patch Land
  16. City Trial
  17. Dinosaur Planet
  18. Aether Paradise
  19. Pokémon Center
  20. Mystery Dungeon
  21. Saturn Valley
  22. Casino Palace
  23. Gyromite
  24. Cloud Sea of Alrest
  25. Inkopolis Square
  26. Ramen Bowl
  27. Spiral Mountain
  28. Dracula's Castle
  29. Venus Lighthouse
  30. Concentration Training
  31. Training stage
Battlefield
  1. Duel Zone
  2. Melee Battlefield
  3. Brawl Battlefield
  4. 3DS Battlefield
  5. Wii U Battlefield
Final Destination
  1. 64
  2. Melee
  3. Brawl
  4. 3DS / Wii U
Unique FightersEcho Fighters
  • #64. Inkling
  • #65. Banjo & Kazooie
  • #66. Ridley
  • #67. King K. Rool
  • #68-69. Pyra & Mythra
  • #70. Incineroar
  • #71. Mimikyu
  • #72. Slippy
  • #73. Min Min
  • #74. Ayumi
  • #75. Simon
  • #4ε. Dark Samus
  • #27ε. Galacta Knight
  • #36ε. Dixie Kong
  • #38ε. Shadow
  • #56ε. Celica
  • #60ε. Ken
  • #63ε. Jeanne
  • #64ε. Octoling
 
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Job 1: Rayman, Dixie Kong (Diddy Echo), and Shadow (Sonic echo)
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Perkilator

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3rd partyEcho 1Echo 2
Simon: 2​
Richter: 2​
Alph: 0​
Shovel Knight: 0​
Deathborn: 0​
Galacta Knight: 2​
Rayman: 2​
Dixie Kong: 5
Shadow: 4
Banjo & Kazooie: 5
Dark Samus: 1​
Ken: 0​
Geno: 0​
Akuma: 0​
Chrom: 0​
Knuckles: 0​
Daisy: 5

CHALLENGER APPROACHING
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Banjo & Kazooie
Are Raring to Go!
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Shadow
Serves to Unify the Chaos!
Daisy and Dixie Kong are tied as well for the second Echo spot so feel free to vote for whichever one to break the tie! In the meantime, feel free to post movesets whenever you like. Movesets aren't bound to specific jobs.
 
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Daisy. I'd prefer Dixie to be more of her own character
 

Perkilator

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CHALLENGER APPROACHING
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Dixie Kong
Tags In!


Job #2: A stage from Splatoon & Banjo-Kazooie
Can be any stage you feel like. My submissions for this job are Inkopolis Square and Spiral Mountain.

Job #3: How many stages should return? Which ones?
Again, this can be however many old stages you'd like. Here are the ones I'd like to see return:
  1. Peach's Castle
  2. Kongo Jungle
  3. Hyrule Castle
  4. Super Happy Tree
  5. Dream Land
  6. Saffron City
  7. Mushroom Kingdom
  8. Meta Crystal
  1. Princess Peach's Castle
  2. Rainbow Cruise
  3. Kongo Falls
  4. Jungle Japes
  5. Great Bay
  6. Temple
  7. Brinstar
  8. Yoshi's Island (Melee)
  9. Yoshi's Story
  10. Fountain of Dreams
  11. Green Greens
  12. Corneria
  13. Venom
  14. Pokémon Stadium
  15. Onett
  16. Mute City
  17. Mushroom Kingdom II
  18. Brinstar Depths
  19. Poké Floats
  20. Fourside
  21. Big Blue
  1. Delfino Plaza
  2. Mushroomy Kingdom
  3. Figure-8 Circuit
  4. WarioWare, Inc.
  5. Bridge of Eldin
  6. Norfair
  7. Frigate Orpheon
  8. Yoshi's Island (Brawl)
  9. Halberd
  10. Lylat Cruise
  11. Pokémon Stadium 2
  12. New Pork City
  13. Port Town Aero Dive
  14. Summit
  15. Castle Siege
  16. Skyworld
  17. Distant Planet
  18. Smashville
  19. Shadow Moses Island
  20. Luigi's Mansion
  21. Mario Bros.
  22. 75m
  23. Pirate Ship
  24. Spear Pillar
  25. Flat Zone 2
  26. Hanenbow
  27. Green Hill Zone
3DS only
  1. 3D Land
  2. Golden Plains
  3. Rainbow Road
  4. Paper Mario
  5. Gerudo Valley
  6. Spirit Train
  7. Dream Land GB
  8. Unova Pokémon League
  9. Prism Tower
  10. Magicant
  11. Mute City SNES
  12. Arena Ferox
  13. Reset Bomb Forest
  14. Tortimer Island
  15. Balloon Fight
  16. Living Room
  17. Find Mii
  18. Tomodachi Life
  19. Pictochat 2
  20. PAC-MAZE

Wii U only
  1. Big Battlefield
  2. Mushroom Kingdoom U
  3. Mario Galaxy
  4. Skyloft
  5. Woolly World
  6. Orbital gate Assault
  7. Kalos Pokémon League
  8. Coliseum
  9. Flat Zone X
  10. Palutena's Temple
  11. Gamer
  12. Garden of Hope
  13. Town and City
  14. Wii Fit Studio
  15. Duck Hunt
  16. Wrecking Crew
  17. Pilotwings
  18. Wuhu Island
  19. Windy Hill Zone

Both versions
  1. Boxing Ring
  2. Gaur Plain
  3. Wily Castle
  4. Super Mario Maker
  5. Suzaku Castle
  6. Midgar
  7. Umbra Clock Tower
Battlefield
  1. Duel Zone
  2. Melee Battlefield
  3. Brawl Battlefield
  4. 3DS Battlefield
  5. Wii U Battlefield
Final Destination
  1. 64
  2. Melee
  3. Brawl
  4. 3DS / Wii U
 

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I would personally want Meta Crystal, Poke Floats, Kongo Jungle (Brawl) and Rainbow Road Return. Also Woolly World.
 
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My Shadow moveset
Intro: Shadow Chaos Controls onto the stage

Stance/Idle 1: Shadow stands around with his arms folded
Idle 2: Shadow occasionally glares towards the camera
Idle 3: Shadow occasionally glares to the background

Notable Palette Swaps:
  1. Shadow the Hedgehog (default)
  2. Multiplayer alt 1 (yellow)
  3. Terios (gray)
  4. Shadow Mephiles (cyan)
  5. Multiplayer alt 2 (pink)
  6. Multiplayer alt 3 (blue)
  7. Multiplayer alt 4 (orange)
  8. Multiplayer alt 5 (green)
Walk: Shadow walks with his fists curled up
Dash: His signature slide across the floor using his Air Shoes
Damage: His damage animation from Shadow the Hedgehog
Jump: Same as Sonic’s
Crouch: Same as Sonic’s

Normal Attacks
Jab: P / PP / PPK; Shadow punches twice and then follows up with an upward kick (9%, OK knockback)
Forward+A: Shadow Chop; Shadow performs a horizontal chop (9%, OK knockback)
Down+A: Split Kick; Shadow kicks on both sides of himself (8%, small knockback)
Up+A: Skip Kick; Shadow performs a 540 kick with both legs (12%, OK knockback)

Aerial Attacks
Air+A: Chaos Nightmare; Shadow invokes Chaos energy around himself (12%, OK knockback)
Air Forward+A: Shadow’s second kick from Shadow the Hedgehog’s intro (12%, OK knockback)
Air Back + A: Shadow’s first kick from Shadow the Hedgehog’s intro (11%, OK knockback)
Air Up+A: Shadow Updraft; Sonic kicks opponents into the air with a somersault kick (13%, OK knockback)
Air Down+A: Shadow’s downward punch from Shadow the Hedgehog’s intro (14% with a meteor effect, OK knockback)

Dash Attack: Shadow Slider; Shadow slides along the ground with his Air Shoes with his Air Shoes (9%, OK knockback)
Edge Attack: Shadow Eagle; Shadow gets up and performs an overhead axe kick (12% with a meteor effect, OK knockback)
Get-Up Attack: Dizzy Spin; Shadow Spin Dashes back and forth (7%, small knockback)

Smash Attacks
Forward+A: Shadow Kick; Shadow’s kick against Silver in 06 (17%, OK knockback)
Up+A: Short Spin Attack; Shadow jumps up while performing a Spin Dash (16%, OK knockback)
Down+A: Shadow spins around using his Air Shoes (16%, OK knockback)

Grab Game
Grab: Shadow grabs the opponent in the chest
Pummel: Shadow punches the opponent with his open hand (2%)
Forwards+Throw: Shadow simply tosses the opponent (9%, OK knockback)
Down+Throw: Double Spin; Sonic pins the opponent on the ground and Spin Dashes into them multiple times (12%, OK knockback)
Back+Throw: Shadow teleports behind the opponent and kicks them from behind (11%, OK knockback)
Up+Throw: Hedgehog Needle: Sonic heaves the opponent upwards before stabbing them with his quills (14%, OK knockback)

Special Moves
B : Homing Attack
; Shadow curls into a ball and homes in on the nearest opponent.
  • Tapping B has Shadow home in instantly (10%, OK knockback)
  • Holding B has Shadow charge up before homing and following up with a 3-hit combo (16%, OK knockback)
B + Forwards : Chaos Spear; Shadow throws a Chaos Spear that can be tilted in the same direction as the control stick (12%, OK knockback)
B + Up : Chaos Control; Shadow teleports in the direction titled on the control stick.
B + Down : Chaos Blast; Shadow charges an explosive Spin Dash that explodes in a large area upon contact (20%, medium knockback); the charge cancels if the button is let go, but Shadow still performs a single-hit Spin Dash (12%, OK knockback)

Final Smash: Chaos Inferno; Shadow uses Chaos Control to slow down time. Rouge and Omega appear to attack opponents; Rouge tags the opponent for Omega to gun down (45% each, devastating knockback)

Gimmick: Echo Fighter of Sonic

Taunts
1: “I’m the Ultimate Life-form.” Shadow loosely mimics his pose from Sonic 06
2: “How pathetic.” Shadow tosses a Chaos Emerald up and down before putting it back
1+2: “My name is Shadow…” Shadow mimics his artwork for Sonic Adventure 2

Winposes
1: “Anyone who gets in my way is my enemy.” Shadow loosely mimics his pose from Shadow the Hedgehog’s box art
2: “There’s no time for games.” Shadow’s victory pose from Shadow the Hedgehog, when he gets a Chaos Emerald (he specifically holds the green one)
2a: “Game over, Sonic.” Vs. Sonic
3: “This is the ultimate power!” Shadow’s victory pose from Sonic Heroes, along with Rouge and Omega

Applause: Shadow folds his arms and closes his eyes in disappointment
Icon: Sonic series icon
Boxing Ring Title: The Ultimate Life Form
Star K.O.: “Not heeeerrrrrre…!”
Victory Music: https://youtu.be/ICE8ZPfIrck
Kirby Hat: Shadow’s quills and ears
 
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nirvanafan

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Gurnty's Furnace Fun

Not sure if this would be too much but imagine a basic stage with one pass through platform on each side. Hazard would be quiz questions given by Gruntilda who would cause an eruption to the side affiliated with the incorrect answer similar to Norfair.

Octo Canyon

Big base platform with several surrounding hazards based on different objects from the campaign

For stages I say Everywhere is Here. Ultimate was so close so with more dev. time & a couple reworks for certain gimmicks i think why not?
 

TCT~Phantom

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In terms of old returning stages, Im going in with the mentality that we will have the same old stages as Smash Ultimate already. So that is including all 99 stages that are in Ultimate already.

In terms of new returning stages, I am going to go with Meta Crystal, Poke Floats, Woolly World, Rainbow Road, and Pac Maze. Just taking a few fan favorites that did not make the cut and putting those in as well.

As for stages for Inkling and Banjo, Moray Towers and Spiral Mountain are fine as is imo. Maybe I would change Spiral Mountain's base angle so that it is more usable for hazards off, but I think both are fine.
 

JOJONumber691

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1. Octo Canyon
2. Mahi Mahi

1. Spiral Mountain, the one literally everyone suggested.
2. Grunty's Furnace Fun
 
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