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SmashBoards Creates: An Alternate SSB Universe, Part II: Smash 2

Pupp135

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Since we finished our alternate version of SSB64, we’ll continue on by doing the sequel for the Gamecube.

Just like Melee, we’ll assume this a title released soon after the Gamecube’s launch. In this scenario, we’ll assume our alternate SSB64 was a successful game, and we start thinking about a sequel for the upcoming Project Dolphin. In this sequel, we’ll have at least 10 newcomers and 29 playable stages. Here is a list of the following list of things that we’ll decide on: fighters, stages, Singleplayer gamemodes, Multiplayer gamemodes, items, collectables, and music.

I’ll later use this post to show what was added to the game.


Mario (Super Mario)
Specials: Fireball, Shell Surf, Spin Jump, Ground Pound
Luigi (Super Mario)
Specials: Thunder Ball, Poltergust, Tanooki Tail,
Bowser (Super Mario)
Specials: Fireball, Hammer Toss, Bowser Bomb, Whirling Fortress
Princess Peach (Super Mario)*
Specials: Heart Mines, Peach Bomber, Parasol, Vegetable
Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
Specials: Coconut Gun, Barrel Throw, Spinning Kong, Hand Slap
Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong)*
Special Moves: Peanut Popgun, Cartwheel, Rocketbarrel Boost, Guitar Stun
Yoshi (Yoshi’s Island)*
Specials: Egg Lay, Egg Throw, Flight, Stomp
Wario (Wario Land)*
Specials: Dragon Fire, Shoulder Bash, Corkscrew, Ground Pound
Excitebiker (Excitebike)
Specials: Acceleration, Hurdle, Super Jump Ramp, Mud Splash

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Link (Legend of Zelda)
Specials: Arrows, Megaton Hammer, Spin Attack, Bombs
Ganon (Legend of Zelda)*
Specials: Flame Path, Trident Throw, Orb Transport, Blazing Bat
Samus Aran (Metroid)
Specials: Missiles, Ice Beam, Screw Attack, Morph Ball

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Marth (Fire Emblem)
Specials: Shield Breaker, Dancing Blade, Dolphin Slash, Counter

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Captain Falcon (F-Zero)
Specials: Falcon PAWNCH, Gun Shot, Falcom Dive, Falcon Kick
Kirby (Kirby)
Specials: Swallow, Hammer Flip, Final Cutter, Stone
Fox McCloud (Star Fox)
Specials: Reticle, Fox Illusion, Arwing, Reflector
Falco Lombardi (Star Fox)
Ness (Mother)*
Gyigas (Mother)
Pikachu (Pokemon)
Specials: Thunder Shock, Thunder Wave, Quick Attack, Thunder
Mewtwo (Pokemon)*
Special Moves: Shadow Ball, Confusion, Teleport, Disable
Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario)
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Bowser’s Stadium (Super Mario)
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Princess Peach’s Castle (Super Mario)
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Bowser’s Castle (Super Mario)
Gangplank Galleon (Donkey Kong)
Kongo Falls (Donkey Kong)
Yoshi’s Island (Yoshi’s Island)
Wario’s Castle (Wario Land)
Excitebike Bun Bun Mode: Mario Stadium (3 layouts)
Pyramid of Power (Legend of Zelda)
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Great Bay (Legend of Zelda)
Norfair (Metroid)
Castle Siege (Fire Emblem)
Mute City (F-Zero)
Fountain of Dreams (Kirby)
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Rock Star (Kirby)
Out of this Dimension (Star Fox)
Onett (Mother)
Pokefloats (Pokemon)
Pokemon Stadium (Pokemon)
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Meta Crystal (Series Original)
Duck Hunt (Duck Hunt)
Super Mushroom (Super Mario)
Hammer (Super Mario)
Fire Flower (Super Mario)
Bob-omb (Super Mario)
1-UP Mushroom (Super Mario)
Green Shell (Super Mario)
Metal Box (Super Mario)
Item Box (Super Mario)
Oil Barrel (Donkey Kong)
Ice Wand (Legend of Zelda)
Heart Container (Legend of Zelda)
Screw Attack (Metroid)
Star Rod (Kirby)
Maxim Tomato (Kirby)
Smart Bomb (Star Fox)
Lure Ball (Pokemon)
Mr. Saturn (Mother)
Balloons (Ballon Fight)
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NES Zapper (Duck Hunt)
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Crate (Series Original)
Barrel (Series Original)
Beam Sword (Series Original)
Bumper (Series Original)
Cracker Launcher (Series Original)
Home-Run Bat (Series Original)
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Motion Sensor Bomb (Series Original)
Sandbag (Series Original)
Super Scope (Super Scope)
Thunder Shield (Top Secret)
Bulbasaur (Razor Leaf)
Charizard (Flamethrower)
Blastoise (Hydro Pump)
Jigglypuff (Sing)
Victreebel (Sludge Bomb)
Ninetails (Ember)
Electrode (Explode)
Rhydon (Stone Edge)
Snorlax (Body Slam)
Magikarp (Splash)
Eevee (Tackle)
Vaporeon (Hyrdo Pump)
Jolteon (Thunderbolt)
Ditto (Transform)
Mew (Fly)
Togepi (Metronome)
Scizor (X-Cut)
Quagsire (Surf)
Wobbuffet (Counter)
Suicune (Blizzard)
Tyranitar (Hyper Beam)
Lugia (Aeroblast)
Ho-oh (Sacred Fire)
Classic Mode:
Level 1: 1v1
Level 2: 2v2
Minigame 1: Traverse Through Level
Level 3: FFA
Level 4: 3 v Giant character
Minigame 2: Snag the Trophy
Level 5: Vs. Dark Link (Stamina based)
Level 6: Vs. Metal Mario
Minigame 3: Race to the Finish
Level 7: Vs. Polygon Fighting Team
Final battle: Vs. Bowser
Mob Smash: Century Smash, 15-minute smash, Killer Smash, Endless Smash, PokeSmash, Team-Up Smash
Race to the Finish
Traverse through Level (Available outside of Classic Mode)
Snag the Trophy
Target Test
All Star (Brawl’s format)
Stage 1: Super Mario (Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach on Mushroom Kingdom, Princess Peach’s Castle, Bowser’s Castle, Bowser’s Stadium)
Stage 2: (DK and Diddy on Gangplank Galleon or Bramble Blast)
Stage 3: Excitebike (Excitebiker on Bun Bun Mode: Mario Stadium)
Stage 4: Legend of Zelda (Link and Ganon on Pyramid of Power or Great Bay)
Stage 5: Metroid (Samus on Norfair)
Stage 6: Fire Emblem (Marth on Castle Seige)
Stage 7: F-Zero (Falcon on Mute City)
Stage 8: Yoshi (Yoshi on Yoshi’s Island)
Stage 9: Kirby (Kirby on Fountain of Dreams or Rock Star)
Stage 10: Star Fox (Fox on Out of this Dimension)
Stage 11: Wario Land (Wario on Wario‘s Castle)
Stage 12: Mother (Ness on Onett)
Stage 13: Pokemon (Pikachu and Mewtwo on Pokemon Stadium or Pokefloats, and these characters have an advantage like giant size)
First Encounter
Galactic Shoot-Out
Obstacle Course Rivalry
Two Kings and Two Queens
Trophy Tussle 1
Battle of the Swordsmen
Revenge of the Koopa King
Hungry Hungry Fighters
Girl Power
Cute Melee
Who’s the Toughest Villain of Them All
Heroes Unite
Mario Party
Brains vs. Brawns
Past vs. Future
Fighting Fire with Fire
Bounty Hunter Battle
Sidekicks Save the Day
Mascot Battle Royale
Battle of the Psychics
Intergalactic Battle
NES Icon Battle Royale
I’m the Best Ally
All Star Battle 1 (Mario, Excitebiker, DK, Link, Samus on respectively Princess Peach’s Castle, Excitebike Bun Bun Mode: Mario Stadium, Gangplank Galleon, Great Bay, and Norfair)
All Star Battle 2 (Marth, Captain Falcon, Kirby, Fox, and Pikachu on respectively Castle Siege, Mute City, Rock Star, Out of this Dimension, and Pokefloats)
Regular vs. Modes:
Time
Stock
King of the Hill
Coin Battle
Special Smash Modes:
Stamina
Giant
Mixed
Poke
Sudden
Invisible
All-Star
Smash Soccer
Volleyball
Knock your Opponent
Super Mario:
Mario
Mario (Adventure Mode)
Luigi
Luigi (Adventure Mode)
Bowser
Bowser (Adventure Mode)
Princess Peach
Princess Peach (Adventure Mode)
Metal Mario
Fire Mario
Mario and Yoshi
Dr. Mario
Toad
Goomba
Koopa Troopa
Bullet Bill
Piranha Plant
Thwomp
Lakitu
Birdo
Princess Daisy
Waluigi
King Bob-omb
Viruses
Super Mushroom
Hammer
Fire Flower
Bob-omb
Item Box
1-up Mushroom
Green Shell
Metal Box
Clown Car
Princess Peach’s Castle
Mario Party Die

Donkey Kong:
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong (Adventure Mode)
Diddy Kong
Diddy Kong (Adventure Mode)
Dixie Kong
King K Rool
Rambi the Rhino
Cranky Kong
Swanky Kong
Chunky Kong
Lankey Kong
Stanley the Bugman
Klaptrap
Oil Barrel

Yoshi:
Yoshi
Yoshi (Adventure Mode)
Baby Mario
Kamek
Baby Bowser
Burt the Bashful
Super Happy Tree

Wario Land:
Wario
Wario (Adventure Mode)
Bull Wario
Rudy the Clown
Princess Shonoka
Captain Syrup

Excitebike:
Excitebiker
Excitebiker (Adventure Mode)
Podium People

Legend of Zelda:
Link
Link (Adventure Mode)
Ganon
Ganon (Adventure Mode)
Young Link
Dark Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Impa
Agahnim
Marin
Sheik
Tingle
Skull Kid
Majora’s Mask
Darunia
Moon
Octorok
Ice Wand
Heart Container
Triforce
Hyrule Castle

Metroid:
Samus Aran
Samus Aran (Adventure Mode)
Samus Unmasked
Metroid
Ridley
Kraid
Zebesian
Chozo Statue
Screw Attack
Samus’s Spaceship

Fire Emblem:
Marth
Marth (Adventure Mode)
Caeda/Shiida
Tiki
Medeus
Roy
Binding Blade Character
Wyvern

F-Zero:
Captain Falcon
Captain Falcon (Adventure Mode)
F-Zero Racer
Samurai Goroh
Pico
Jody Summer
Blood Falcon
Black Shadow

Kirby:
Kirby
Kirby (Adventure Mode)
Fire Kirby
Fighter Kirby
Kirby Hats 1
Kirby Hats 2
Kirby Hats 3
Kirby Hats 4
Kirby Hats 5
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Adeline & Ribbon
Waddle Dee
Waddle Doo
Marx
Whispy Woods
Star Rod
Maxim Tomato
Warp Star

Star Fox:
Fox McCloud
Fox McCloud (Adventure Mode)
Falco Lombardi
Falco Lombardi (Adventure Mode)
Peppy Hare
Slippy Toad
Andross (64)
Wolf O’Donnel
Gorgon (64)
Smart Bomb
Arwing
Attack Carrier
Great Fox

Mother
Ness
Ness (Adventure Mode)
Giygas
Giygas (Adventure Mode)
Ninten
Jeff
Mr. Saturn

Pokemon:
Pikachu
Pikachu (Adventure Mode)
Mewtwo
Mewtwo (Adventure Mode)
Red
Brock
Misty
Team Rocket
Bulbasaur
Charizard
Blastoise
Raichu
Meowth
Jigglypuff
Victreebel
Ninetails
Electrode
Rhydon
Snorlax
Magikarp
Porygon
Eevee
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Ditto
Mew
Pichu
Togepi
Quagsire
Wobbufett
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-oh
Pokeball
Lure Ball

Series Original:
Adventure Mode Boss
Fighting Polygon Team
Crate
Barrel
Beam Sword
Bumper
Cracker Launcher
Home-Run Bat
Sandbag
Battlefield
Final Destination
Misc.:
Mr. Game & Watch (Game & Watch)
Little Mac (Punch Out)
Eggplant Man (Wrecking Crew)
Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)
Balloon Fighter (Balloon Fight)
Balloons (Balloon Fight)
Dog and Ducks (Duck Hunt)
NES Zapper (Duck Hunt)
R.O.B. (Gyromyte)
Ice Climbers (Ice Climber)
Polar Bear (Ice Climber)
Urban Champion (Urban Champion)
Mach Rider (Mach Rider)
Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club)
Pit (Kid Icarus)
Diskun (Disk System)
Sheriff & Bandits (Sheriff)
Tagamon
Devil (Devil World)
Kururin (Kuru Kuru Kururin)
Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight)
Monster (Famicon GP 2)
Lip (Panel De Pon)
Muddy Mole
Ricky Winterbourne (1080 Snowboarding)
Villager (Animal Crossing)
Tom Nook (Animal Crossing)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
E. Gadd (Luigi’s Mansion)
Olimar (Pikmin)
Pikmin (Pikmin)
Orange Star

NES Console
SNES Console
Virtual Boy Console
Gameboy Console
N64 Console
Gamecube Console
Radar Scope Arcade Cabinet (Radar Scope)
Super Scope
Thunder Shield (Top Secret)
Snake (Metal Gear)
Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Tetromino (Tetris)
Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie)
Current: Submit event matches (will be open ended at this point except for All-Star events)
To do list: Adventure Mode, All Star Mode, Characters (1 unique and clones remain), Stages (8 remain), Items (7 remain), Pokeball Pokemon (6 remain), Alts?
Complete: Trophy Submissions
Upcoming polls: how many clones should we add? (2, 4, or 6)
Here is the first job: Create a list of 5 characters that you want or think should be added into this game as newcomers. Also, rank these characters from 1st to last, no explanations are necessary.
For reference, the fighters from our original roster is below:
Mario
Luigi
Bowser
DK
Excitebiker
Link
Samus
Marth
Captain Falcon
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu

Here is my list:
1. Yoshi
2. Mewtwo
3. Ness
4. Wario
5. Peach
 
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AlRex

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1. Peach
2. Zelda
3. Ganon
4. Meowth
5. Mr. Game & Watch

I almost picked Banjo & Kazooie or a Killer Instinct character as my last one, but I wasn’t sure if I could pick Rare characters.
 

Pupp135

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1. Peach
2. Zelda
3. Ganon
4. Meowth
5. Mr. Game & Watch

I almost picked Banjo & Kazooie or a Killer Instinct character as my last one, but I wasn’t sure if I could pick Rare characters.
Rare characters won’t be on the roster due to copyright issues, but you can vote for them in this job since we’re making an alternative to the Smash 2 poll for this job, which had Rare and third parties on it.
 

Pupp135

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Here are the Smash 2 poll results
Peach 18
Yoshi 19
Wario 15
Zelda 4
Ganon 7
King Dedede 10
Falco 1
Mewtwo 9
Meowth 5
Mr. Mime 2
Mew 1
Lugia 4
Ness 8
Pit 4
Muddy Mole 5
Duck Hunt 5
Mr. Game & Watch 3

Here is the poll ranking
1. Yoshi
2. Peach
3. Wario
4. King Dedede
5. Mewtwo
6. Ness
7. Ganon
8. Meowth/Muddy Mole/Duck Hunt (tied)
11. Zelda/Pit/Lugia (tied)
14. Mr. Game & Watch
15. Mr. Mime
16. Mew/Falco (tied)
Yoshi is the poll’s winner, and I will use a poll asking if he should automatically be our first newcomer.

Job 2: List which characters from our SSB64 roster should return to our Smash 2.
Here is the list of veterans below:
Mario
Luigi
Bowser
DK
Excitebiker
Link
Samus
Marth
Captain Falcon
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu

Personally, I’d like to bring back everyone.
 

Champion of Hyrule

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Oh whoops I completely forgot about the last thread. I’ll just jump into this one haha.

Anyways I’m on board with everyone returning.

(also I just wanna say you using only artwork from the n64 era or earlier for each character in the last thread was a really nice touch)
 

Pupp135

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Except for Marth and Captain Falcon, the 64 fighters and Yoshi had unanimous support for their inclusion. Since every character had the majority of votes supporting them, the 64 cast and Yoshi are added to the roster.

Job 3: Vote for the three stages you want to return the most, and rank them.
Here is the stage list below:
Mushroom Kingdom
Bowser’s Stadium
Excitebike Arena
Hyrule Castle
Crateria
Archanea
Fountain of Dreams
Corneria
Safari Zone
Duck Hunt
Final Destination

My votes
1. Hyrule Castle
2. Fountain of Dreams
3. Bowser’s Stadium
 
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Pupp135

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Here are the votes

Mushroom Kingdom 7
Bowser’s Stadium 8
Excitebike Arena 6
Hyrule Castle 3
Fountain of Dreams 6
Safari Zone 4
Final Destination 2

From these stages, Mushroom Kingdom and Bowser’s Stadium will be added, but I will add another poll between Excitebike Arena and Fountain of Dreams.

Job 4: List which non-assist items should return from our 64 list.
Here are the items:
Super Mushroom
Hammer
Bob-omb
Fire Flower
Item Box
Oil Barrel
Ice Wand
Heart Container
Star Rod
Maximum Tomato
Smart Bomb
Balloon Fight Balloons
NES Zapper
Mr. Saturn
Crate
Barrel
Beam Sword
Bumber

I’d like to bring all of them back.
 

Pupp135

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From the votes, Fountain of Dreams barely makes the cut, and every item will return by a unanimous vote.

Job 3: Submit a new Mario and Pokemon Stage and their layouts.

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For my Mario stage, I’ll nominate Princess Peach‘s Castle, which would only have the Banzi Bill removed..
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For my Pokemon Stage, I’ll nominate Pokemon Stadium, which would be the same as the hazardless one.
 

Butters Stotch

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I've gone back on my choice for the Mario stage. I'll nominate Mushroom Kingdom 3. It's the same as the Smash Flash 2 version, except it uses sprites from the NES game.

For the Pokemon stage, I'll nominate Sprout Tower, as it was considered for the actual Melee. You fight outside the tower and can use the floors as platforms.
 
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Pupp135

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Here are our nominations for the stages

Mario:
Princess Peach’s Castle
Mushroom Kingdom 3
Mario Bros

Pokemon
Pokemon Stadium
Sprout Tower
Pokefloats

Vote for your two most wanted, where your submission cannot be first. The stage with the most votes gets added.

My votes:
1. Mushroom Kingdom 3
2. Princess Peach’s Castle

1. Pokefloats
2. Pokemon Stadium
 

Pupp135

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Here are the votes
Princess Peach’s Castle 6
Mushroom Kingdom 3 5
Mario Bros 4

Pokemon Stadium 5
Sprout Tower 2
Poke Floats 8

From the votes, Princess Peach’s Castle and Poke Floats get added as our next stages.

Job 6: Submit a Nintendo character who debuted before 2000, and state why they would be a good fit.

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I’ll nominate Ness from Mother since Earthbound 64 was in development at the time, and the PSI moves would lead to an interesting moveset.
 
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