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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Graizen

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Something funny remembered today.

The last time a MK was sold in Japan , was 10 years ago.
The last Nintendo MK game was 13 years ago.

With MK on the Switch the Japanese people can buy a MK game for the first time in 10 years.

This is BIG for the MK characters supporters.
 

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Also I'm played some Wario and??? He's kinda like PM...
dang... I may try him out some to see if I should make the switch or not.
 

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Also I'm played some Wario and??? He's kinda like PM...
dang... I may try him out some to see if I should make the switch or not.
Wario has a ton of potential in my opinion. He basically moves like Melee Jigglypuff and bite now heals. With end lag being reduced for all aerials all around, he's going to be super annoying to fight once people get the hang of him.

CroonerMike CroonerMike And? I think people are leaning way too hard into the "unexpected" quote. Someone like Crash or Lloyd or Geno or Shantae would still be a surprise to most people by all accounts. Doom Guy would be an asspull because the support is largely implied to be Western and ironic at that. Joker/SMT content was wanted globally, not exactly on screaming stadiums full of people degree but enough to catch Sakurai's attention. That's the key difference. "Man, I want this but would Nintendo really ever do it?" Someone like Doom Guy is too hard of a reach just like 2B, Scorpion, Master Chief, and Lara Croft, in my opinion.
 
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Doomguy and Crash are my two most wanted 3rd Party Reps that are actually currently realistic (f to neku). Seeing their chances get higher makes me very happy.
 

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Just lost 125K GSP because it put me into a bad game with someone with the default GSP (much lower than my roster GSP) and I lost. One game lost me 125K.

Winning a game gives me about 10K and Icies are now at 225K which is very low compared to my roster 530K.

Thanks, Nintendo...
 
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See but crash is kinda expected if we go based on that.
Honestly, from what I've seen, there's a large portion of people who (somehow) still think he's owned by Sony. I'd argue Crash would be pretty unexpected to a lot of people.
 

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So I consider myself to be a pretty good smash player, not insanely good but good enough to hang with other good players. But some of the world of light matches are ridiculously hard. Anybody else questioning their ability after getting bodied in some of these?
 

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So I consider myself to be a pretty good smash player, not insanely good but good enough to hang with other good players. But some of the world of light matches are ridiculously hard. Anybody else questioning their ability after getting bodied in some of these?
there's a handful that are intentionally hard (mostly legend rank ones) but some of the lower ranked ones futz with the difficulty enough to make them more difficult

i'm a bad smash player and the only ones i haven't been able to beat so far ar 9 volt and 18 volt and dr wily
 

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So I consider myself to be a pretty good smash player, not insanely good but good enough to hang with other good players. But some of the world of light matches are ridiculously hard. Anybody else questioning their ability after getting bodied in some of these?
Nope, because I have no confidence in myself to begin with and I'm playing it in Easy since my first loss.

Honestly, from what I've seen, there's a large portion of people who (somehow) still think he's owned by Sony. I'd argue Crash would be pretty unexpected to a lot of people.
Honestly, all guest fighters might be surprising, depending on how you look. There isn't much point in trying to use it as a reference.
 

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Something funny remembered today.

The last time a MK was sold in Japan , was 10 years ago.
The last Nintendo MK game was 13 years ago.

With MK on the Switch the Japanese people can buy a MK game for the first time in 10 years.

This is BIG for the MK characters supporters.
Scorpion would be rad as hell but the tonal whiplash would be far too much for an E10+ game. We have some M-Rated games now but they're still campy enough to fit in without being distracting.

Scorpion in Smash would be like wearing a Cannibal Corpse T-shirt to a 7 year old's birthday party.
 

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Call me crazy , but...

Mortal Kombat 11 on the Switch, the last MK on Nintendo was in 2006
They brought back the old art style for the characters , like Scorpion in the trailer

I think this will bring a MK rep for Smash...
Oh god, i don't want to dream to much

And what character? Liu Kang, Scorpion, Sub-Zero?

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I could really really see us getting both Sub-zero and Scorpion. Like, in one pack. It'd be a surprise but it's a very Sakurai thing to do.

Dont think it'll happen this pack though if ever.
 

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How would you guys feel about getting a Resident Evil character? I know it’s another capcom character but what if?
 

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How would you guys feel about getting a Resident Evil character? I know it’s another capcom character but what if?
Other 4 characters could be strictly Capcom and we'd still have some icons to go through from their catalogue. Bring it on.
 
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How would you guys feel about getting a Resident Evil character? I know it’s another capcom character but what if?
Hey, they're the face of "survival horror" so it'd fit in pretty well.
Personally, I can't tell if they'd pick Chris, Jill, or Leon. Probably Chris due to Capcom designating him the face of the crossover material.
 

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How would you guys feel about getting a Resident Evil character? I know it’s another capcom character but what if?
Who cares about company slots, SEGA has three unique characters. I'd love to see Chris Redfield in the same game with Solid Snake but Jill or Leon would also be cool.
 

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And I bet you all know just how I feel about ****ing JOKER in Smash.

Honestly, I'm shaking.
You wanna know what I think?

COUNT ME IN AS PART OF THE JOKER GANG

WOW I know I debated TPC about this guy way back in the day, I thought Yu would be in over him or Jack Frost.

Here's a secret. I love Persona; amazing game series, I have a soft spot for it due to growing up alongside it. Never PLAYED it frequently, but I know and have watched a ****-ton about it. I mained Adachi in Arena Ultimax.

Persona 5 is a good game. I want to play it soon. And Joker? He's pretty, he's got a wicked design, and he's a good character.
The moveset potential? Limitless. Wow, his moveset is amazing. Honestly, if he summons Jack Frost...I'll be so happy.

So wow. Lemme recap.
-Blows our DLC expectations the **** OUT. NINTENDO IS LISTENING, PEOPLE. All y'all who said "no it's all gonna be promo picks" well guess what? Joker just stole that concept away from us. He's a niche fan want, but we thought it'd never happen. /I/ thought it wouldn't, I rode AGAINST the dude. BUT HE DID.
-Persona is now in Smash. Another game series I'm fond of in the greatest gaming crossover ever.
-The moveset potential...I'm so excited. I want Jack!!!
-Joker will look AMAZING in the Ultimate style.
-Made one of my IRL best friends SO hype, and I know my friend DaybreakHorizon DaybreakHorizon was hyped as well. Made a lot of my pals happy.
-The music of Persona will be in, an amazing stage, maybe a Palace. AND A HARU SPIRIT MAYHAPS?

Wow...what an amazing pick. Really happy about this.
 

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I'm home.

And I bet you all know just how I feel about ****ing JOKER in Smash.

Honestly, I'm shaking.
You wanna know what I think?

COUNT ME IN AS PART OF THE JOKER GANG

WOW I know I debated TPC about this guy way back in the day, I thought Yu would be in over him or Jack Frost.

Here's a secret. I love Persona; amazing game series, I have a soft spot for it due to growing up alongside it. Never PLAYED it frequently, but I know and have watched a ****-ton about it. I mained Adachi in Arena Ultimax.

Persona 5 is a good game. I want to play it soon. And Joker? He's pretty, he's got a wicked design, and he's a good character.
The moveset potential? Limitless. Wow, his moveset is amazing. Honestly, if he summons Jack Frost...I'll be so happy.

So wow. Lemme recap.
-Blows our DLC expectations the **** OUT. NINTENDO IS LISTENING, PEOPLE. All y'all who said "no it's all gonna be promo picks" well guess what? Joker just stole that concept away from us. He's a niche fan want, but we thought it'd never happen. /I/ thought it wouldn't, I rode AGAINST the dude. BUT HE DID.
-Persona is now in Smash. Another game series I'm fond of in the greatest gaming crossover ever.
-The moveset potential...I'm so excited. I want Jack!!!
-Joker will look AMAZING in the Ultimate style.
-Made one of my IRL best friends SO hype, and I know my friend DaybreakHorizon DaybreakHorizon was hyped as well. Made a lot of my pals happy.
-The music of Persona will be in, an amazing stage, maybe a Palace. AND A HARU SPIRIT MAYHAPS?

Wow...what an amazing pick. Really happy about this.
I think the strangest thing about this, is that pretty much all leakers got ****ed over because of this.
 

P1ZZ4CHU

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I'm home.

And I bet you all know just how I feel about ****ing JOKER in Smash.

Honestly, I'm shaking.
You wanna know what I think?

COUNT ME IN AS PART OF THE JOKER GANG

WOW I know I debated TPC about this guy way back in the day, I thought Yu would be in over him or Jack Frost.

Here's a secret. I love Persona; amazing game series, I have a soft spot for it due to growing up alongside it. Never PLAYED it frequently, but I know and have watched a ****-ton about it. I mained Adachi in Arena Ultimax.

Persona 5 is a good game. I want to play it soon. And Joker? He's pretty, he's got a wicked design, and he's a good character.
The moveset potential? Limitless. Wow, his moveset is amazing. Honestly, if he summons Jack Frost...I'll be so happy.

So wow. Lemme recap.
-Blows our DLC expectations the **** OUT. NINTENDO IS LISTENING, PEOPLE. All y'all who said "no it's all gonna be promo picks" well guess what? Joker just stole that concept away from us. He's a niche fan want, but we thought it'd never happen. /I/ thought it wouldn't, I rode AGAINST the dude. BUT HE DID.
-Persona is now in Smash. Another game series I'm fond of in the greatest gaming crossover ever.
-The moveset potential...I'm so excited. I want Jack!!!
-Joker will look AMAZING in the Ultimate style.
-Made one of my IRL best friends SO hype, and I know my friend DaybreakHorizon DaybreakHorizon was hyped as well. Made a lot of my pals happy.
-The music of Persona will be in, an amazing stage, maybe a Palace. AND A HARU SPIRIT MAYHAPS?

Wow...what an amazing pick. Really happy about this.
This kind of infectious happiness is why I stan characters I've never heard of and would otherwise have no interest in.

just do it up
 

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Wow I just realized that with Joker joining Smash that we are likely going to be getting a Joker amiibo too. That's cool.
Honestly my hopes for DLC right now are Sephiroth and Crash/Spyro
 

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I think the strangest thing about this, is that pretty much all leakers got ****ed over because of this.
I wouldn't say that. It's just a matter of nobody knew, just like K. Rool. It was just that well kept of a secret. I still think at least one Square Enix character is happening and Lloyd/Yuri is definitely still on the table. Everything else is a mystery.
 

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I wouldn't say that. It's just a matter of nobody knew, just like K. Rool. It was just that well kept of a secret. I still think at least one Square Enix character is happening and Lloyd/Yuri is definitely still on the table. Everything else is a mystery.
I don't really trust leakers anymore, so yeah.
 

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I'm not a Persona player, but given a few days I'm getting pretty hyped as both a huge Sega fanboy and a JRPG nerd(though my tastes lean more towards FF and Breath of Fire style games). This is a really fresh, out of the box choice.

Thinking about the timing...if the second pick is revealed in a Direct sometime 1st quarter next year, then sets up a possible 3rd announcement at e3? I'd imagine if there's any First Party characters, they'd be announced in a Nintendo direct. Whereas you might save a hype Third party for a big occasion.

Also, I'm stuck speculating because I don't even have a Switch yet. :/
 

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I saw this idea from the Joker support thread, but what if Joker has an exclusive transition where the screen crumpled into paper similar to the transition when you craft in Persona 5?
 

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I'm not a Persona player, but given a few days I'm getting pretty hyped as both a huge Sega fanboy and a JRPG nerd(though my tastes lean more towards FF and Breath of Fire style games). This is a really fresh, out of the box choice.

Thinking about the timing...if the second pick is revealed in a Direct sometime 1st quarter next year, then sets up a possible 3rd announcement at e3? I'd imagine if there's any First Party characters, they'd be announced in a Nintendo direct. Whereas you might save a hype Third party for a big occasion.

Also, I'm stuck speculating because I don't even have a Switch yet. :/
I'd bet money on Sylux or a Three Houses rep around E3 to promote whatever they're showing off. A Corrin is bound to happen.
 

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I saw this idea from the Joker support thread, but what if Joker has an exclusive transition where the screen crumpled into paper similar to the transition when you craft in Persona 5?
*slams hand on table* ****ing yes
 
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Scorpion would be rad as hell but the tonal whiplash would be far too much for an E10+ game. We have some M-Rated games now but they're still campy enough to fit in without being distracting.

Scorpion in Smash would be like wearing a Cannibal Corpse T-shirt to a 7 year old's birthday party.
ahem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Kombat_vs._DC_Universe

i think they can tone down the MK characters for smash

Besides bayonetta kills that argument she goes full on naked when she used her hair attacks they toned that down to only her arms and legs get ecposed
 
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