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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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NonSpecificGuy

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I've always wondered how long insiders can really be insiders before someone finally figures out where they get their info from and shuts them down. I dunno how these people still keep getting info fed to them when they so blatantly parade it around.

In all honesty though, if Isaac is an Assist Trophy, that's fine with me. At least we got more than we did with For. If Inceneroar and Ken are all that's left, then fine, the roster is still damn good. I just hope and pray that others can be just as mature. I dunno whether I trust the Leak or the Insiders more because of what we've gotten so far but whatever happens, this game is still Ultimate to me.
 

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The only good thing about the Grinch leak probably being fake is that Dixie has a chance to fight another day.
 

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Possibly. Its not like its a first either.

During DLC last time, Shovel Knight and Inkling were being fed to insiders as fake info.

And when every insider and their mother has been running their mouth because of the Grinch leak, Nintendo was probably like

"**** em too, let's make sure they get knocked down a peg."



There is no way Geno is an assist, he's playable or nothing.

Issac did not get his trademark renewed and have people like mystic say he's in as a playable fighter for nothing. They were not renewing a trademark several years early for an assist.

Not to mention all this info conveniently conflicts with the grinch leak, yet was only ok to talk about after the direct?

Sorry but I doubt it. They'd be in more trouble if that was the case.


Issac fans, Geno fans


Let us not get discouraged, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
I actually hope your right. Box theory needs to die, and insiders need to be knocked down a peg just slightly.
 

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The fact that this thread going at the speed of light implies otherwise in regards to 'going nuts'.


The one guy who's yet to be wrong is going all in against the big boi leak, and there's less than 2 days left.



Either the leak blows up as a dud, or it's real and it's crazy.


For me who's here mainly for a ride to see the reactions one way or another, it's a win/win scenario.
whoops, i thought you meant going nuts in terms of how fans are reacting to it, not in how many people are posting. my b
 

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How so? No insider has gone against box theory as far as I know
They imply that multiple characters are missing from the leak; I remember one saying "It's not just Incineroar," probably Spawn Wave or both him and another insider.

We even have Emily Rogers saying that the roster will be better than Grinch Leak.
 
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I dont trust leakers and insiders at this stage.

I have reasons to believe that nintendo fed them real but wrong info.

Only the banner tells the truth
 

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They get their info from a source, not the higher-ups at Nintendo. That's where the fake info comes in.
Again, That's not what they would do to their news partners. That does more harm than good. The false info would go to those such as Emily Rogers or Verge.
 

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Why... would they do that when there's literally 2 days left? it's much easier to just keep quiet
Because they want their egos stroked, and they want them stroked now.
Think of it this way: If Isaac is an Assist Trophy, at least he's in. And if he's not and actually playable, you can see all of Vergeben crumble beneath your feet.
I vote for the latter!
Vergeben: Isaac is an Assist Trophy. [posts gif that's essentially "deal with it" without the pixelated sunglasses]

Me:
View attachment 173883
Vergeben's steadily been growing more and more laughably loony, and this latest episode is just clinching his status as a rightful resident of the loonie bin.
 

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I don’t believe this for a second. I really believe that these insiders were baited with false information from there sources and a few of them are piggybacking. One guy saying that he’s playable, another saying he’s an assist trophy, insiders saying the mural is 100% fake but then saying some of the characters are actually confirmed, than confirming characters while others deny the same characters. This is so annoying. Thursday morning cannot come soon enough.
 
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So trying to catch up

What makes this insider claiming Isaac is an AT anymore credible than any of the other insiders that have spoken out in the last 24 hours and all told different stories (including some who said Isaac was confirmed)

I feel like this topic is just repeatedly latching onto whatever piece of 'news' comes out at the time, treating it as this major revelation while disregarding everything that came before it, and then repeating the process when a new insider speaks out. No attention spans here
Yup. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.
 

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There's so many contradictory claims going on from so many different sources, I don't know who to believe anymore to be completely honest.

Maybe that's exactly what 'they' are trying to do, but that sounds like conspiracy level stuff to me.

Personally, all I wanna know is if Break the Targets is back, and what the heck the mystery green 'Spirits' mode is.
 

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Huh and someone earlier told me he's never been wrong besides King K. Rool...
That was me and the Isabelle thing got me thinking now. Maybe... just maybe, he knows Isaac is in the game but perhaps is wrong about their status again.

Simon at E3 doesn't matter because Simon was an incredibly hard read. Richter was just omission, he just never talked about it
 

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Okay, just so we’re clear: Everyone assumed Simon Belmont was gonna be the only newcomer last Direct.
Do not. Assume. Anything.
 

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Skull Kiddo still has a chance I guess.
Geno/Sora (I highly, highly doubt it'll be any Square character besides either of these), Skull Kid, Incineroar, Shadow(?) and Ken are all still on the table.

I'm sure there will be an obligatory retro pick, Mach Rider or the Famicom Detective Girl or something. or BOND
 
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Hit or miss, I guess Grinch never missed huh?
You got an insider I guess he never leaked ya?
He gon' find another game and he wont miss ya!
He gon skrrt and hit the dab like Vergeben-ah!
Honestly? Now he's like: Th-This might be real but I called it u guys I swear?
Absolutely pathetic.
 

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(Simon at E3, Richter, King K Rool, official confirmation of Isabelle being an original character or an echo
Alright, right off the bat

He never said Simon would be in E3 and he still called him.
He never believed in K Rool not getting in, being a pmed theory he didn't believe in
Absence of info is not incorrect info.
He still called Isabelle as a playable character, even if she did turn out to be unique.

Believe what you want, but don't spout misinformation.
 

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... Maybe it's a good thing I have to work during the Direct.

If any of this actually pans out, it's going to be a god damn mess.
 

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You know, it kinda scares me with the tension going on even before the Direct. If some people are like this, what happens after the Direct? It's like at this time in Smash's life, there's always negativity and heavy backlash, and what scares me even more is that if the favorite characters of some people actually do make it in, and if they're low tier or whatever, will some of those loyal players actually stay loyal or leave without much thought?

Besides, is it that hard to just wait like a few hours for the official info to come into the light rather than this boring and lame leak and so-called insider or whatever stuff? It's times like this where I kinda feel sad for the developers who might be stressed with the growing demands of some fans.
 

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It doesn't bother me. I don't draw so people can make my pictures their avatars, I draw because I love it. And I draw you guys because I like you guys!
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That was me and the Isabelle thing got me thinking now. Maybe... just maybe, he knows Isaac is in the game but perhaps is wrong about their status again.

Simon at E3 doesn't matter because Simon was an incredibly hard read. Richter was just omission, he just never talked about it
It just goes to show Verge has been wrong before then and not as credible as many thinks he is.
 
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Think of it this way: If Isaac is an Assist Trophy, at least he's in. And if he's not and actually playable, you can see all of Vergeben crumble beneath your feet.
Important thing people are forgetting. This isn't ideal for Isaac, but it's better than it was.

It just feels like everyone so outraged at the lack of him being playable was taking his presence for granted as if they forgot the last game...
I'm just happy he's there...
 

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What if the newcomer is not Incineroar, Isaac, Geno, Banjo?

What if it turns out be James Freaking Bond? lol
I'd lose my goddamn mind. I'd be so, so happy. He's just ridiculous enough to work, and he has precedent in Smash because he was highly requested for Melee.
 
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