Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Mango The Magician]

That's in game Battlefield right? That kinda makes any diffrences between the two irrelevent since they're diffrent renders to begin with.

This is in-game battlefield it's different than both the leak and the clean Pokemon Go version.

 

[TyrantLizardKing]

They're going to be completely silent and never take off their helment so that people can make youtube videos like "IS MACH RIDER A MAN OR WOMAN?"
And when prompted during a random post-game interview, Bill Trinen's going to say "LOL WHO KNOWS?"

I can just smell MattPatt hastily typing a script up already.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

Wait, why are some dudes saying it's fake? This thread moves too fast for me, i'm sorry...

The background of the blank battlefield thing is different between the official version and the leak one.
The same thing over and over but now we have found a better evidence that makes it clear and impossible to unsee.

 

[T3Z3R1]

But why would they do that

It's simple, it's not that hard to believe how leaked empty battle was NOT FAKE. If leaker was able to get hold of that image, how can you explain where they got it from? It's too impossible to remove all fighters from battlefield without ****ing up image. I believe that they got updated empty battlefield from Nintendo.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So, if we assume the leak is true, we have a css looking something like

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and / or
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Could not get them to match with same number of columns. I still think collapsed is the proper way to see the css, so I am thinking that 14 per row is the way it will be.

Switch Banjo and Geno and I'd say that's pretty much how I'd see it.

 

[Yatagarasu4]

Koichi is the only one who looks their age in JoJo LOL

True, but even Giorno and Josuke look way older than they really are in the anime. In the Manga they look around their age but in the anime, I wouldn't eb able to tell they were High Schoolers if it wasn't for the school uniform on Josuke and them stating Giorno's age. They both look about 19-21 anime wise. Jotaro looks like a straight up grown *** man though.

Koichi looks too young and everyone else looks to old. EXCEPT THE BEST JOJO CHARACTER TRISH

 

[lightdrago]

Wait, why are some dudes saying it's fake? This thread moves too fast for me, i'm sorry...

Battlefield from E3 and Battlefield from the leak have 8 noticeable discrepancies, which are all conveniently hid by the characters. Doesn’t necessarily kill it, but it’s something to keep in mind.

 

[YourMostWantedWon'tBeIn]

So, if we assume the leak is true, we have a css looking something like

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and / or
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Could not get them to match with same number of columns. I still think collapsed is the proper way to see the css, so I am thinking that 14 per row is the way it will be.

Wow, we live in a timeline where Smash is reaching MUGEN-levels of character roster of any game ever...
-Banjo
-Bayonetta
-Simon and Richter
-Sonic
-Cloud
-Snake
-Ken and Ryu
-Pacman

 

[VGPhaze]

Who wrote this originally? It's beautiful. I found it in a YouTube comments' section a few hours ago. Did you?

Thank you! Yes it was me. I orignally wrote it on reddit. It got reddit platinum, gold, and silver... then the mods took it down. So I decided to post it elsewhere. Now someone is apparantly illustrating, recording a reading of it, and posting a video online eventually lol

 

[Paperchampion23]

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Looks a little bit different, but I don't know how much can be attributed to lighting.
They seem to be missing the ruins next to the monitor too.

The ruins are there, look harder. They are just extremely bloched like everything else in this leak. Everything melds together, especially darks and lights.

 

[xpnc]

Yeah, are we sure these aren't two different Battlefields?

Has the mural Battlefield even matched the in game Battlefield prior to this?

At minimum there is a version that loops in on itself for the Smash blog and a version that doesn't

 

[Peptobislawl]

The background of the blank battlefield thing is different between the official version and the leak one.
The same thing over and over but now we have found a better evidence that makes it clear and impossible to unsee.

Assuming it's the same render to begin with. It's not in game bf as I guessed but we still don't know what it actually is.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

Another thing leaked by the Grinch: Toby was indeed the Scranton Strangler.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I just thought of something.

Battlefield without the characters is on the same band in the leak behind the SSB logo; it appears to be different than even the empty Battlefield to the left in the image, but I'm not sure. Can anyone compare the Battlefields?

 

[Potato_]

So, I've kinda been out all day. Any new leaks? Anything new on the banner leak?
Any leaks disproven?

Also, we have lost another member. Hope whatever Alastor's dealing with get's better soon. He's left the site.

Damn, really? He was here commenting just today.

Hope whatever he's dealing with works out okay.

 

[Deleted member]

True, but even Giorno and Josuke look way older than they really are in the anime. In the Manga they look around their age but in the anime, I wouldn't eb able to tell they were High Schoolers if it wasn't for the school uniform on Josuke and them stating Giorno's age. They both look about 19-21 anime wise. Jotaro looks like a straight up grown *** man though.

Jotaro also ages in reverse. He looks older in Part 3 than he does in Part 6.

 

[TheBazry64]

But that does not mean that its fake, since you can clearly see the ruins in the background of the official banner therefore the leaker would definetly not forget about it if he edited it. Most likely just other versions.

 

[Fenriraga]

So I dug back through the Treehouse Footage and found a better angle to see Battlefield at, as well as showing the character art popping in, if it helps at all.

 

[MrHomelessHobo]

It's simple, it's not that hard to believe how leaked empty battle was NOT FAKE. If leaker was able to get hold of that image, how can you explain where they got it from? It's too impossible to remove all fighters from battlefield without ****ing up image. I believe that they got updated empty battlefield from Nintendo.

why would nintendo make two completely different images for the mural

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

So Spawn Wave thinks it's fake, but with absolutely nothing new to bring to the conversation.

What a let down. Something interesting would have been nice.

 

[Noipoi]

Battlefield from E3 and Battlefield from the leak have 8 noticeable discrepancies, which are all conveniently hid by the characters. Doesn’t necessarily kill it, but it’s something to keep in mind.

Wow, an actual legitimate point against this leak. Never thought i'd see the day.

 

[KingIceSonic]

Just let the box theory die

This is not about the box theory, this is about people believing every single leak that has some effort put into it.

Then whem we don't end up getting 7 characters then people will be dissapointed and complain because they set their expectations too high.

 

[Yatagarasu4]

Wow, we live in a timeline where Smash is reaching MUGEN-levels of character roster of any game ever...
-Banjo
-Bayonetta
-Simon and Richter
-Sonic
-Cloud
-Snake
-Ken and Ryu
-Pacman

Now we just need every pokemon ever and anime characters and we'll have MUGEN smash version

 

[Chrono.]

So, if we assume the leak is true, we have a css looking something like

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and / or
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Could not get them to match with same number of columns. I still think collapsed is the proper way to see the css, so I am thinking that 14 per row is the way it will be.

**** collapsed man I want my MUGEN-ass css.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Alright, I was in the middle on whether or not I believed it, but if respected Smashboards community member and newer Youtuber papagenos is willing to stake his reputation on this being real, then I believe it.

 

[Chrollo.]

I still find it hilarious that the current big leak was due to the damn GRINCH. I thought it'd come from the Prima Guide lol.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Hehe that's not what Nintendo showed off.

Can't find the art

Referring to this?

 

[Mecakoto]

It would make sense for 2 different versions to exist: One rendered in 3D and one painted. Looking at the banner on the SmashBros.com site, it does follow the same "painted" style and feel (to me). It isn't too big a jump for 2 different iterations of a single environment to exist.

Food for thought. The comparison did weaken my faith in the "leak," but thinking objectively, this makes sense to me.

 

[CannonStreak]

Only ten more pages until we reach page 6100.

Not to argue against that, but like it was said, that was the E3 version of Battlefield, which was prepared long before E3. What if slight changes were made over time to the Battlefield later on? Just a guess.

 

[Phaazoid]

Alright, these are just the points I think will be most obvious to the layman's eyes. I see significantly more issues than just these.

A.) The infamous smear is not on the official image.

B.) A small, dark cloud that is entirely absent from the leaked image.

C.) The shape of the water curves upward on the leaked image but continues straight on the official. Plus I'm not sure I see any evidence of the castle in the leaked image.

D.) This entire cloud on the official image seems to be missing and replaced with just blue sky on the leaked image.

E.) The shape of the cloud is different, with a clean diagonal cut on the leaked image but a rounder shape on the official one.

F.) A lightning bolt that appears to be missing entirely from the leaked image.

G.) Several dark structures are missing entirely from the leaked image.

H.) The shape of the crystals is clearly different. The official image has one large chunk in this area, slanted to the left. The leaked image has two chunks with a piece missing in the center and both pieces missing that leftward slant.

Question, the bottom image was taken from a treehouse stream, correct? That means it was definitely in motion, whereas the top image is supposedly promotional material, meant to be seen as a still? Is it possible many of these discrepancies can be linked to trying to compare a what is a live stage that may change over time to static promotional content?

Not trying to assert if the leak is true or false, or demean the image breakdown.

 

[Noipoi]

Guys there are over 1000 combined people in this thread right now...

HELLO GUESTS AND USERS! IT IS I, YOUR KING NOIPOI!

 

[Graizen]

Good Night guys
Love you all!

 

[CannonStreak]

Question, the bottom image was taken from a treehouse stream, correct? That means it was definitely in motion, whereas the top image is supposedly promotional material, meant to be seen as a still? Is it possible many of these discrepancies can be linked to trying to compare a what is a live stage that may change over time to static promotional content?

Not trying to assert if the leak is true or false, or demean the image breakdown.

That was exactly what I was thinking, as in the bolded part,

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Sakurai atm @ the "Grinch" leaker, presented by the mnmtwinz:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BdSihXpwbe4

 

[YourMostWantedWon'tBeIn]

Remember when GameXplain thought and sweared that the Shulk leak was fake?
Yeah, don't trust anybody, whether it's them, Spawn Wave, Source Gaming or anyone else, YOU be your own judge...
The only one i'd trust on his words would be papagenos he's the most objective and non-biased out of them all.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I don’t know what papa geno posted

But I’m guessing his creditable source from earlier is saying it’s real and he’s keeping it a secret.

 

[Noipoi]

Good Night guys
Love you all!

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G'night.
Sleep Tight.
Don't let the Grinch steal your leaks.

 

[FalconFire93]

Well, just hopped on YouTube and this happened to be in my subscription feed, mostly where I’m subscribed to GameXplain and IGN, Smash Trailer and a Grinch clip right next to each other. *X-Files theme plays*

 

[Mega Bidoof]

You're a bro.

All I can tell is that you like Jimmy Neutron.

That you’re a man of culture.

Is that your Stando?

It’s actually a render pulled from a datamined copy of the Smash Ultimate demo.

Spoiler: MAJOR CHARACTER SPOILERS

Probably gonna blow up the Internet I know.

 

[Mr. Trumo]

Another thing leaked by the Grinch: Toby was indeed the Scranton Strangler.

"You're the silent killer. Go back to the annex."

"You'll see."

THE HINTS WERE THERE ALL ALONG