Guide Smash God's Epic 2000th Post Luigi Guide

[MurphyPrime]

I don't think so, more so a trap if they DI the right way. If they crouch cancel the jab I think it works better.

 

[SoulBoundX]

What are some of the best ways to use up B offensively.

 

[MurphyPrime]

There are not many. Up B is a really good punish and useful for reads, but it isn't easy to set up (especially on FD). There are specific circumstances where it is a good punish, like when sheik recovers on stage. Sometimes you can use the weak nair on fast fallers to set up an aerial up b, but it is much weaker than the grounded version. Look for punishes on laggy recoveries (Falco/ Fox Side B if the miss space it, Sheik up b, etc).

 

[SoulBoundX]

Not at all. Depends on DI and whether you're coming out of a WD and % and so forth.

Abate makes it look pretty consistent. When he does does jab into up B , he's hit confirming that right?

 

[MurphyPrime]

It's cause he reads how the opponent will react to a jab, and punishes by Shoryuken. It's not a guaranteed combo, since the opponent can get out of it, but it is a frame trap if the opponent reacts wrong I think. It's a surprise so Abate can get a lot of people with it.

 

[SoulBoundX]

It's cause he reads how the opponent will react to a jab, and punishes by Shoryuken. It's not a guaranteed combo, since the opponent can get out of it, but it is a frame trap if the opponent reacts wrong I think. It's a surprise so Abate can get a lot of people with it.

Okay. I just watched him play some more. He doesn't hit confirm the jab into up B, he simply just inputs jab into up B. Why jab before up B though? Why not just up B? Is it for the hit stun?

 

[MurphyPrime]

Hit stun, and to see if they shield. Cause Up B on Shield can be punished.

 

[SoulBoundX]

Hit stun, and to see if they shield. Cause Up B on Shield can be punished.

But it doesn't look like abate takes his time to see if they sheild or not. In his match with duck at tbh5 he jabbed and up B'ed his sheild. Do you have time to see if they'll sheild after a jab?

 

[MurphyPrime]

If you approach with a jab>grab 5 times in a row, they might not shield the jab anymore. It's like conditioning the opponent. If an opponent crouch cancels a lot, then you can use jab>up b to punish. But if they shield more often than not then you can't.

And you can react to them shielding the jab, but you have to have good reaction time.