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Skill transfer between solo practice & matches

Geranimo

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Hi,

I almost only practice alone because I have nobody to play with the majority of the time, but when I can I go to my local weeklies. I don't know why (I'm very calm almost all the time), but when I'm alone, my techskill is pretty decent because I practice it everyday, but whenever I play a match my skills just doesn't want to transfer and I become a noob, almost like I was begginning melee, but I play since october.

Is this happening to you too? If so what was your solution?
 
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ShrieK1295

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It definitely happens to me. There's just a period where your solo tech skill requires practice in actual matches before you can do it consistently under pressure.
 

Alulim

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Playing against good players causes you to experience pressure. You'll be more hesitant to do stuff especially since you get punished harder for mistakes. Only way to solve this is to continue playing against them.
 

oats_

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Maybe because tech skill doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things?

Tech skill allows you to control your character how you THINK to control him. If you can't think about what to do in situations properly, having tech skill means nothing.
 

Geranimo

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Maybe because tech skill doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things?

Tech skill allows you to control your character how you THINK to control him. If you can't think about what to do in situations properly, having tech skill means nothing.
I know what I want to do but my hands does it wrong in matches, but right in solo practice
 
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oats_

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I know what I want to do but my hands does it wrong in matches, but right in solo practice
I dont think you do to be honest. If you don't have experience with real players, you really don't realise why you are getting bopped and just blame it on tech skill. I'm not saying this to trash talk, I have friends who are the same way: they start.multi shining and stuff and I still beat them with considerably less tech skill.
 

rpotts

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This is totally standard, sitting alone in your room (mom's basement; lights off) and practicing puts zero pressure on you, you have no time frame to abide by, there's no one watching you, and most importantly you don't have an opponent trying as hard as they can to whoop on you. It's the same way for musicians struggling to perform live what they can perform flawlessly in practice or just about any other technical skill. The more you practice against good players the faster you will learn to incorporate those tech skills into your game fluently.
 

Massive

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Pressure can have a big effect on playstyle, but also keep in mind that sometimes you practice the wrong type of tech-skill by yourself.
For example:
  • If you're timing your L-cancels on hit instead of shield, your timing will be off.
  • If you've been doing combos on CPUs, the combo could only be working because of (bad) DI or the CPU not retaliating correctly.
  • The Openers you use on CPUs might not real-world openers. Many times your tech skill is completely valid, you're just not used to doing it in the situations you are presented.
Pressure in and of itself is really just aggressive movements by the opponent. If they stuff some of your options, you will subconsciously pull back or revert to what you believe your 'safe' options to be, preventing you from doing your practiced maneuvers correctly. The best way around this is, as rpotts said, to play against good players until you're used to the pressure.
 

SAUS

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Pressure can have a big effect on playstyle, but also keep in mind that sometimes you practice the wrong type of tech-skill by yourself.
For example:
  • If you're timing your L-cancels on hit instead of shield, your timing will be off.
  • If you've been doing combos on CPUs, the combo could only be working because of (bad) DI or the CPU not retaliating correctly.
  • The Openers you use on CPUs might not real-world openers. Many times your tech skill is completely valid, you're just not used to doing it in the situations you are presented.
Pressure in and of itself is really just aggressive movements by the opponent. If they stuff some of your options, you will subconsciously pull back or revert to what you believe your 'safe' options to be, preventing you from doing your practiced maneuvers correctly. The best way around this is, as rpotts said, to play against good players until you're used to the pressure.
Well said. The big thing to note here is situations and scenarios. Against a CPU, sequence XYZ works, and you've mastered it in that scenario. When you have to do the maneuvers in more of a reactionary way, it is so much different. Practice, again, is the best way to overcome this issue. I still remember the first time I wavedashed and it actually mattered - my friend rolled behind me, I followed him with a wavedash and caught him with my up-tilt. That was a huge stepping stone for me - which is why I can still remember it now, 7 years after it happened.
 

caLviN-1260

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I understand what you mean, some of it has to do with nerves and a lot of it has to do with the fact CPUs play systematically. Real players adapt and pressure in ways CPUs don't
 

Hestehviskeren

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It's just a matter of practice. I am still having trouble transferring my practice skills to real competetive matches. As others have stated previously, it's just a matter of playing as much as possible against people.
 

Britex

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As this thread showed, the solution to practicing well if you can't play vs other players is to practice vs other players.



What.
 

TobiasXK

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yea, i mean, that's kind of what it is. whenever i'm teaching someone, i always tell them that no matter how much they work on their techskill alone in Training Mode, they should still also drill it during downtime in Versus matches, also. like, even if you're working on the execution of a technique that you're not ready to implement yet, there's alot of chemical stuff happening in your body that's different when you feel like you're competing (even in friendlies) from how it is when you're "in the lab".

if you really can't play with people, you could maybe try to emulate that sort of environment by streaming (or just having a willing friend spec and comment; i used to do this for my friend when he was training at StarCraft), and see if that makes you feel less like you're just practicing in comfort alone. otherwise, when you do go to those weeklies, put in as much time as you can in friendlies, and make sure you get your hands used to doing the things you want to do when you're actually playing with someone.
 
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