misterpimp5757
Smash Ace
when do the polls end?
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Should Metaknight Be Banned? The Poll (LISTEN TO THE SBR PODCAST!)
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Who cares it's obvious yes wins because too many people were brainwashed into wanting more ******** rules which make no sence in aving because if something is in the game it is perfectly viable
My Point is if something is ingame its viable end of, banning meta knigt is banning something that is completely legal, just cause ******* decide: I know im in carge now everybosy listen to me doesnt mean we have to.
ADV Techs are in game
MK is in game
Banning MK means getting rid of in game hazards
Therfore why not ban all other in game hazards which results in you not playing, if you dont like sommat dont play the game or put up with it, simple as that
wat does that even mean lol?
It means you said "Your argument sucks because you're stupid" rather than actually giving any logical reason why it's wrong.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Akuma is in SF2 so he shouldn't be banned m i rite?
I ain't stupid, this forum is full of ******* who think they know everything from my short experience here
gantrain05
Smash Master
its true, you can't argue, "well because its there its legal and you are all stooopid for not being able to beat MK, MK is awesome, im awesome, you guys suck" thats not an argument, thats just making a fool of yourself.
You misread my explanation, please try again.
You did say I was stupid for not comming up with logical explanations when I was but as allways when tere is a competetive community people have to obey their little "gods"
Thats is how your being a ******
so get a life
Ad Hominem: Instead of attacking the argument, you attack the person arguing. This is usually because the person is unable to defeat the opposing argument and instead attempts to discredit his opponent.
Also, you're doing it again.
No its because he is being a ******, but as you are all "competeive freaks" who think they are playing the "real game" with the "real rules" heres a news flash Its a game, It's not real life, so stop making laws like it is
Nobody's calling you stupid but yourself.
4ch an?
No you Highlighted that bit to make it look like tat because you think you are clever
and that you know everything, "I was stupid" are words that ad to be in there to explain my point so your post is irrelivant
You missed, again.
I'm sorry you keep misreading my sentence and where my use of the word "stupid" was applying to, but I can provide a tip to get you on the right track: It never was you.
No, don't tell him he's wrong! He'll assume you're just calling him stupid again! :V
Yes, I did hilight those words to make the point that you're calling yourself stupid. Nobody else has said that, yet you insist upon it. So, by process of elimination, you're the only person calling yourself stupid!
If you don't think you're stupid, stop insisting that other people do. Whether it's true or not, nobody's actually come out and said it.
It was my last try, honest!
I'm tough, I can take being called stupid in the name of explaining Ad Hominem!
gantrain05
Smash Master
dude, you are stupid.....stop being some anti smashboards ***, calling the SBR members *******, when in fact they know more about this game than you ever will. this is a COMPETETIVE forum, where COMPETETIVE people come to discuss things, you obviously are a noob, and don't belong here, we don't need this argument.
gantrain05
Smash Master
please do, i speak my opinion boldly, and yes i believe you are stoooooopid.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
We make rules for it because we like playing it like a competative game, where intelligence and strategy rule the day. Not being smiting by God (aka, bomb-om appearing in your hitbox).
We can ban whatever we want, and there's nothing you can do about it, because you're not *GASP* a competative player.
This is not because your analysis is inherently wrong due to that status but because you're drawing from a different set of preconptions then we are, preconceptions that mean NOTHING to us.
If playing FFAs with all items on in New Pork City is your idea of fun, please, do it, have fun. We'll be playing the game our way, and your opinion that we're doing it wrong doesn't matter to us.
I can't believe how often people talk about "items being banned" in these Meta Knight threads and try to draw parallels to Meta Knight.
Here's a shocking fact: items aren't banned. If you happen to get ahold of an item, you can use it. There are no restrictions on how you can use items. Setting item spawn to none and each item to off is a setting in the game, not a ban. It's the same thing as choosing stock mode rather than time mode or coin mode, unless you think tournaments ban coin mode.
Here's a shocking fact: items aren't banned. If you happen to get ahold of an item, you can use it. There are no restrictions on how you can use items. Setting item spawn to none and each item to off is a setting in the game, not a ban. It's the same thing as choosing stock mode rather than time mode or coin mode, unless you think tournaments ban coin mode.
gantrain05
Smash Master
yeah, so you show me a tournament that was played in coin mode and i might believe what your saying, how are items NOT banned if they are turned off? the only way you could get ahold of items would be peach or DDD pulling something out with the specials, which is pretty rare.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Stages are still banned, regardless of whether items are a gameplay mode or not.
And if stages are just a gameplay mode, the character you use is just a gameploy mode too.
The stages that should be banned are actually broken though. (Note: I said "should be", not the ones that might actually be banned at any arbitrary tournament. Meta Knight shouldn't be banned either but he is still banned at some tournaments.)
Interesting idea. Somebody CP coin mode at their next tournament!
The typical advanced-slob pick system used doesn't let you counterpick a mode, so I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It just isn't part of the tournament structure used. It would be a bit like saying slob picks, or single elimination tournaments, are banned.
If you can't pick it, it makes no difference whether you call it banned or not. The end result is the same.
It makes a difference because we can select the in game settings we prefer for reasons other than one set of settings being broken since it is just choosing what game to play.
We don't have that kind of liberty with characters or stages. A common argument I see in these threads is "Meta Knight may be beatable, but he still does X, Y, and Z and we ban items even though they aren't broken as well" -- the fact is, we don't ban items; it's a setting in the game. That's why the distinction matters.
We don't have that kind of liberty with characters or stages. A common argument I see in these threads is "Meta Knight may be beatable, but he still does X, Y, and Z and we ban items even though they aren't broken as well" -- the fact is, we don't ban items; it's a setting in the game. That's why the distinction matters.
So uh, if we play Brawl with nothing unlocked, is Marth banned or is the option to play him simply set to off?
But the same can be applied to Meta Knight. He's not banned; you just can't choose him. It's a meaningless distinction.
I consider the save state / memory card data as part of the "in game settings", so choosing whether to allow Marth is an in game setting choice, even though it doesn't present itself exactly as a "Marth allowed?" option in the menu.Ankoku said:
On the other hand, if Marth were broken, we could ban him for that reason.
I can't remember if Meta Knight is an unlockable character, but if he is, we could not allow him under "in game settings" for that reason, but the question in this thread is whether he should be banned. My argument against disallowing him under that reasoning if he's unlockable is that the community prefers to play with all characters unlocked.
Justblaze647
Smash Lord
^Absolutely^
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adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
That's a settings choice as well. As is removing stage selection in general.
Before any evidence is applied all game mode choices are technically equally valid. The flip side of that is that any meaningless advantage of one over another is grounds for not choosing it.
Items make the game less skill-based and more random. Therefore we chose against them, simple.
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