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Smash Wii U Should Cloud be banned from doubles?

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Rango the Mercenary

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The character’s dominance is undeniable. Any team that isn’t double Cloud will have one on their team. And it’s come to the point where not using a Cloud in doubles is holding you and your teammates back.

Is it time to try a ban and see where the community goes from there?
 

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I don't really think there's any quantifiable evidence that cloud is holding back the doubles meta. Maybe smash 4 double has just reached its metagame peak.
 
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that's a pretty lame argument. saying smash 4 doubles has reached a "metagame peak" in just 3 years despite having a far more complex environment than singles (which may still evolve for years) is extremely questionable.

cloud is clearly overcentralizing the doubles meta. since doubles is a less popular side event anyway, i'd consider it entirely within reason to ban him
 

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Looking back, yeah. It is a crappy argument. The double meta usually accelerates at a slower rate than other forms of gameplay. However, because of smash 4's more airtight development process and lower tech skill barrier, we may have just reached a form of hyper-20XX. I think we can all agree that smash 4 is not a well balanced game.
 

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No. He isn't remotely OP enough to be banned. I'll admit he is better in doubles than singles as a teammate can aid him with his poor recovery. But I think you either play with a Cloud on your team or you learn the MU. I believe it is that simple. A lot of nerfs happened in sm4sh over the past few years bc the vocal minority complained a lot. Granted things like pre-patch Diddy and Bayo were absurd and imo the game still isn't super well balanced. I believe as a community people should complain less and try to stop hoping for change when the ability to make certain changes (i.e. buffs and nerfs) isn't within our power anyways.
 

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1. There's an official thread for this topic, just a heads-up
2. The same local weeklies in spain that banned singles bayo for a while tried banning doubles cloud for a while, but the results can't really be used because it was one tournament with mixed character use and low entrants, which isn't unexpected since it's a weekly.
 
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