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[Serious] Tier list (order of characters only, Dreamland-based)

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KoRoBeNiKi

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As per:

bumping this so that we can actually come up with a tier list before this thread is buried forever. there was some discussion going on here and many people got to share their perspective on certain matchups that will affect the order of the characters most.

maybe @ KoRoBeNiKi KoRoBeNiKi could start a new thread, or just rename this so that people know that any new posts should only include the order of the characters that they think is right and we'll finally have a new tier list maybe by the end of april (?)
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This is a serious topic, as in no joke lists. I do plan on reporting joke posts.

Forgot: FOR DREAMLAND-BASED TIER LIST, AS THIS IS THE MAIN STAGE IN TOURNAMENTS

As hard as it is for you guys to be serious, let's get some actual post here.

Please post your response in the format below. I plan on compiling everyone's list. I'll also be including outliers. I'll be posting my list later once I'm on a non-laggy computer.

I also plan on asking some people in the non USA/Canada regions for their input.

Smashboards username
Tournament/kailera username
List of characters (I don't care if you use smashboards character images or list the character names, do one of em) in this formatting
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
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Example:
Smashboards: @ SmashPro100
Tournament name: SmasherPro100
1. Pikachu
2. etc
3. etc
4. etc
5. etc
6. etc
__________________________________________________________________________


Link to people's posts

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.

Excel document listing:

Insert
 
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KoRoBeNiKi

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List of players reported (hopefully it doesn't get big)
1.
2.
3.

My personal list, to be edited
1.
2.
3.

Off-smashboards player links
1.
2.
3.
4.
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Samus :samus64:
10. Ness :ness64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Link :link64:
 

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1. Rat
2. Kirby
3. CF
4. Fox
5. Yoshi
6. Puff
7. Mario
8. DK
9. Samus
10. Luigi
11. Link
12. Ness
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Link :link64:
10. Ness :ness64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Samus :samus64:
 

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1. Pikachu
2. Kirby
3. Captain falcon
4. Fox
5. Yoshi
6. Mario
7. Jigglypuff
8. DK
9. Ness
10. Samus
11. Link
12. Luigi

bottom 4 are hands down the hardest to order. you could almost order those bottom 4 in any combination and make a strong argument for it
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Samus :samus64:
9. Ness :ness64:
10. Luigi :luigi64:
11. Link :link64:
12. Donkey Kong :dk64:
 
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KoRoBeNiKi

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Thanks for all of the input, will add everyone so far.

Uhh, also, I forgot one thing. This is going by the current 64 ruleset, aka Dreamland, post on here if your tier list has changed thanks to this.
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
7. Mario :mario64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Link :link64:
10. Ness :ness64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Samus :samus64:
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
7. Mario :mario64:
8. Samus :samus64:
9. Donkey Kong :dk64:
10. Luigi :luigi64:
11. Ness :ness64:
12. Link :link64:
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Samus :samus64:
10. Ness :ness64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Link :link64:
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Yoshi :yoshi64:
5. Fox :fox64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Link :link64:
10. Samus :samus64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Ness :ness64:
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Yoshi :yoshi64:
5. Fox :fox64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Samus :samus64:
10. Link :link64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Ness :ness64:
 

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Tier list so far from the first 12

Fun facts:
DK and Link have the widest outliers (both either 8th best or 12th best) However, DK is pretty commonly considered 8th so far, having 8/12 people vote so, so far.

In terms of the highly contested bottom 4:

Ness and Link have the least common Modes, being 4/12 as in the most common placement.
Luigi has the most common mode of the bottom 4, being voted 11th in half of the participants so far.
Both Luigi and Link have been voted 11th the most. This is the only placement where two characters have the same common mode.

I'll upload the Excel doc if needed so far. Will need to calc average before posting tier list, espec for bottom 5

Banze
1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Yoshi :yoshi64:
5. Fox :fox64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Donkey Kong :dk64:
9. Link :link64:
10. Samus :samus64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Ness :ness64:
Mind getting the opinions of the other Brazilian smashers as well, CabeLo/Oxolane/others (RiTh/CabeLo or someone else I am forgetting?) Muito obrigado!
 
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1. Pikachu:pikachu64:
2. Kirby:kirby64:
3. Falcon:falcon64:
4. Fox:fox64:
5. Yoshi:yoshi64:
6. Jigglypuff:jigglypuff64:
7. Mario:mario64:
8. Samus:samus64:
9. Link:link64:
10. DK:dk64:
11. Ness:ness64:
12. Luigi:luigi64:
 

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Would anyone with sufficient knowledge be opposed to explaining to me fox over yoshi in many of these lists in terms of matchups with each other and the characters ahead of them
 

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1. Pika
2. Kirby
3. Fox
4. Falcon
5. Yoshi
6. Jiggs
7. Mario
8. Luigi
9. Link
10. Samus
11. Dk
12. Ness

Flipped a coin on the ones I couldn't make up my mind on.
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Captain Falcon :falcon64:
4. Yoshi :yoshi64:
4. Fox :fox64:
6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Samus :samus64:
9. Donkey Kong :dk64:
10. Ness :ness64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Link :link64:
 

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@ THE_MAAFIA THE_MAAFIA I appreciate the fact that you wish to discuss but please use the other thread.

Also some people's choices are now changing...interesting to see.

In terms of finishing:
I'd like to see a whole lot of people still add their opinion.
Yes, I plan on doing this for a long while. I don't plan on being banned or anything, so maybe for a month or something.
 
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I think we should all clarify what were basing our tier lists on. My list is based on tourney results over the past 2-4 years.

1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Falcon :falcon64:
4. Yoshi :yoshi64:
5. Fox :fox64:
6. Mario:mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. Samus :samus64:
9. Ness :ness64:
10. DK :dk64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Link :link64:
 
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I decided to regroup in brackets characters which I feel might be interchangeable among themselves, but not beyond those intervals

[1. :pikachu64:]

[2. :kirby64:
3. :falcon64:
4. :fox64:
5. :yoshi64:]

[6. :jigglypuff64:
7. :mario64:]

[8. :samus64:]

[9. :dk64:
10. :luigi64:
11. :ness64:
12. :link64:]
 

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To make things easier, if characters are bracketed, I put it in said order.
If you wish to change your order, please message me on here/post on my profile.
 

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1. Pikachu :pikachu64:

2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:

6. Mario :mario64:
7. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
8. DK :dk64:
9. Samus :samus64:

10. Link :link64:
11. Luigi :luigi64:
12. Ness :ness64:
 

The Star King

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I thought Kero claimed Falcon is the best character in the game? :^)

1. Pikachu :pikachu64:
2. Kirby :kirby64:
3. Falcon :falcon64:
4. Fox :fox64:
5. Yoshi :yoshi64:
6. Jigglypuff :jigglypuff64:
7. Mario :mario64:
8. Samus :samus64:
9. Ness :ness64:
10. Link :link64:
11. DK :dk64:
12. Luigi :luigi64:

Unsure about my choices as ever.

I caved on Fox > Yoshi because I think he's probably better at a top level and most of the players better than me seem to agree. I also think Kirby is definitely worse for Yoshi than any of Fox's matchups (but that might just me personally being a little salty).

Bottom 4 or 5 is hard as ever and could be pretty much any order (but I still think Luigi sucks, sorry Maafia).
 
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I've never posted to the 64 boards but I figured I had to start somewhere.
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Tournament: Mr.L

1.Pikachu:pikachu64:

2.Kirby:kirby64:
3.Falcon:falcon64:

4.Yoshi:yoshi64:
5.Fox:fox64:
6.Mario:mario64:
7.Puff:jigglypuff64:

8.Link:link64:
9.Samus:samus64:
10.Luigi:luigi64:
11.Ness:ness64:
12.DK:dk64:
 

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1. Pikachu
2. Kirby
3. Falcon
4. Fox
5. Yoshi
6. Mario
7. Jigglypuff
8. DK
9. Ness
10. Luigi
11. Link
12. Samus
 
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