Shleee
Smash Rookie
- Joined
- Aug 20, 2018
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Hi everyone,
This is my first post on here. So I started playing a few months ago when I heard ultimate was coming out. I’ve gotten pretty decent and can beat some people who play competitively at a low level once I get used to their play style. I have a really good combo game and if I can get a good couple grabs I find I’ll usually take the match or at least it will be close. Specifically I struggle with heavy aggression and defensive characters like Zelda and Pauletena (at least good pauletena plays that don’t spam counter and reflect).
- I lose against almost all heavies except ganondorf. Even when they over commit and are constantly spamming laggy attacks I feel like I can’t get in for the punish on reaction. I try to out space them most of the time and sometimes it works but I play pretty aggro and I feel like it works against me. Also DK in particular is hard to space out because of his grab range. Even if I combo them to **** it only takes a couple reads with rage to kill me. Bowser I particularly get bodied because my shield is always getting broken. I know I have to respect down b but I feel like when I try to get close enough to punish I just have to make one mistake and the stock is gone.
- I do not know how to deal with aggressive Yoshi players AT ALL. I’m not sure what my openings are because all his moves seem to have very little end lag and I can’t get a grab when he approaches with short hop Aireals even if I shield because he just goes straight into jab and puts me under a lot of shield pressure.
-Zelda don’t know how to deal with diamond reflect spam. I’m not a pk fire spammer but I can’t even attack when players spam this move and I feel so silly for losing to bad players who are just spamming this and smash moves.
-Roll behind. This one isn’t so bad, I typically spot dodge, down smash or go for the long term punish with a pk rocket read if they’re always doing it, but any really hard punish is difficult because I’m not sure which moves are fast enough to punish it without a spot dodge, which leaves me open to a forward smash if they read it. Nair isn’t a bad option either but it doesn’t help against sword characters who are hitting me from behind.
-Landing on stage. I try to mix it up with fast fall then immediately up or down smash since both are pretty fast and come out pretty much immediately when i hit the ground (also most people don’t expect it ), psi magnet stalls mixed with fast fall so the timing is hard to read, sometimes pk rocket and pk thunder mind games (more than I should sometimes bc I know it’s really punishable if you miss but it works really well against opponents that over commit to smash moves when I’m trying to land), and ff up air, but I still usually get bodied once I get hit upward.
Thanks guys let me know if you have any tips.
This is my first post on here. So I started playing a few months ago when I heard ultimate was coming out. I’ve gotten pretty decent and can beat some people who play competitively at a low level once I get used to their play style. I have a really good combo game and if I can get a good couple grabs I find I’ll usually take the match or at least it will be close. Specifically I struggle with heavy aggression and defensive characters like Zelda and Pauletena (at least good pauletena plays that don’t spam counter and reflect).
- I lose against almost all heavies except ganondorf. Even when they over commit and are constantly spamming laggy attacks I feel like I can’t get in for the punish on reaction. I try to out space them most of the time and sometimes it works but I play pretty aggro and I feel like it works against me. Also DK in particular is hard to space out because of his grab range. Even if I combo them to **** it only takes a couple reads with rage to kill me. Bowser I particularly get bodied because my shield is always getting broken. I know I have to respect down b but I feel like when I try to get close enough to punish I just have to make one mistake and the stock is gone.
- I do not know how to deal with aggressive Yoshi players AT ALL. I’m not sure what my openings are because all his moves seem to have very little end lag and I can’t get a grab when he approaches with short hop Aireals even if I shield because he just goes straight into jab and puts me under a lot of shield pressure.
-Zelda don’t know how to deal with diamond reflect spam. I’m not a pk fire spammer but I can’t even attack when players spam this move and I feel so silly for losing to bad players who are just spamming this and smash moves.
-Roll behind. This one isn’t so bad, I typically spot dodge, down smash or go for the long term punish with a pk rocket read if they’re always doing it, but any really hard punish is difficult because I’m not sure which moves are fast enough to punish it without a spot dodge, which leaves me open to a forward smash if they read it. Nair isn’t a bad option either but it doesn’t help against sword characters who are hitting me from behind.
-Landing on stage. I try to mix it up with fast fall then immediately up or down smash since both are pretty fast and come out pretty much immediately when i hit the ground (also most people don’t expect it ), psi magnet stalls mixed with fast fall so the timing is hard to read, sometimes pk rocket and pk thunder mind games (more than I should sometimes bc I know it’s really punishable if you miss but it works really well against opponents that over commit to smash moves when I’m trying to land), and ff up air, but I still usually get bodied once I get hit upward.
Thanks guys let me know if you have any tips.
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