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Secondary Discussion: Falco vs Diddy Kong

TheMike

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Falco and Diddy Kong are regarded as ROB's best secondaries by most ROB players. But who is better? Assuming Meta Knight and King Dedede are our worst matchups, we need a character who covers them.

Falco wins King Dedede 60-40. But loses to Meta Knight 47,5-52,5.
Diddy Kong loses to Meta Knight 45-55. But wins King Dedede 52,5-47,5.

[collapse=Ratios references]Falco Boards
Diddy Kong Boards
Meta Knight Boards
King Dedede Boards


Averages:

Falco

vs Meta Knight: 50 + 45/2 = 47,5
vs King Dedede: 60 + 60/2 = 60

Diddy Kong

vs Meta Knight: 45 + 45/2 = 45
vs King Dedede: 50 +55/2 = 52,5[/collapse]
That said, Falco apparently is better than Diddy Kong as a secondary. Discuss
 

stingers

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I agree with Falco if you don't want to just use MK. I tried playing him awhile back just to cover MK/DDD but I'm terrible with him so I'll just stick to MK/ROB lol
 

Zwarm

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I've tried Diddy before, actually a few times, I really just don't like the way he plays. I used to main Falco back when I was beyond scrubby, but I'm actually trying to pick him back up as a secondary. For right now, I use Pikachu for DDD, and well, Pikachu for MK, although it's not the greatest MU, it's better for him rather than ROB or DDD.
 

Bees!

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I second Diddy as well for DDD and MK. Both MUs are actually fun for me too. MK vs ROB is aggravating. So I am trying to learn those MUs with Diddy instead.

Also agreed with the part about the basics. Diddy's GT feels like ROB's(as far as execution goes)
 

Afrayail

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I actually mained Diddy previous to fully embracing ROB as my main, so I suppose I'd say he's my secondary (and Olimar is in there around my secondary also o.0) While I think essentially Falco seems like a character I could like/use--the same can be said for other ROBs, I'm sure--I personally have a loathing for the stupid bird. I dislike chain grabs, and I get bored with the constant lasers. I guess he just annoys me.

Diddy is more fun and feels more natural, and I think that working with the two advance my game for each character individually.... but all in all, it's a matter of taste.

Looking at it without [too much] personal bias, I still think Diddy would be better than Falco, in some ways... but I suppose Bo has a point, with Diddy getting CPd. If you have good control over your naners, and are smart/confident off stage, go Diddy.
 

-LzR-

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That sounds nice, there is one crazy D3 in my area and I got MK for MK :D
 
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