shadenexus18
Smash Master
I like your signature Rhyme, DS is the best choice for a Samus Villiain. Spoken like a true DS troopa!
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I felt the need to debate the fact, for the only sensible reason against Ridley IS his girth, in my opinion.Is this argument really over the dimensions of a character? Considering the fact that they change when characters attack and jump, I wouldn't concern yourselves with this too much. Besides, didn't the opening movie already confirm that Nintendo already has a working Ridley model in their posession? Just make him lighter in Melee if his girth bothers you so.
Didn't realize that there was an actual difference. I mean, both characters move and attack. The only thing is that one isn't controllable via human player. Even that...build a skeleton, catologue animations, and attach the Ridley skin to the skeleton, easy as...making any other character. If Ridley is not in Brawl, it will only be because Sakurai wasn't happy with the way the character's appearance turned out. Even that is a slim chance.I felt the need to debate the fact, for the only sensible reason against Ridley IS his girth, in my opinion.
And a(n) FMV model is very very different than a model they could use for Brawl.
Er, what? I don't mean to be debating semantics here, but the Ridley that appears for a literal 2 seconds in the opening FMV cannot be copied and pasted into Brawl.Didn't realize that there was an actual difference. I mean, both characters move and attack. The only thing is that one isn't controllable via human player. Even that...build a skeleton, catologue animations, and attach the Ridley skin to the skeleton, easy as...making any other character. If Ridley is not in Brawl, it will only be because Sakurai wasn't happy with the way the character's appearance turned out. Even that is a slim chance.
I thought it was...meh. Still they could make a 3D model that resembles the dimensions of the figure shown in the trailer and work off that, couldn't they? It's not the model design, I've designed characters and it only took me 2 days, for full color models with thousands of polygons. It's the animation that is time consuming. But again, I am new to this process, the people at HAL obviously are not and they could do it much faster I would assume.An FMV model is a movie it's not something that be cut and pasted into a 3D environment and react to what happens to it (and it can't be looked at by any other angle). Ridley is a great choice, he'd have his head hunched and his tail upright with a curl behind his back, he'd fit in fine.
ShadeNexus, could you please speak properly and post relevant things, sorry it just really bugs me.
It's not that much work, actually, for a group of 3 highly trained professionals to assemble a character. I would guess 3-4 months. Just summing up how I figured the proccess would procede.Er, what? I don't mean to be debating semantics here, but the Ridley that appears for a literal 2 seconds in the opening FMV cannot be copied and pasted into Brawl.
I think you misunderstood "FMV model". And also, you make making a character sound like it's no work, but you're very much mistaken.
Sorry bro, I have a knack for speakin in ebonics. It's my native tongue, I can't help it. Plus, I'm a orginal gangsta full of energy ya know what I'm sayin.An FMV model is a movie it's not something that be cut and pasted into a 3D environment and react to what happens to it (and it can't be looked at by any other angle). Ridley is a great choice, he'd have his head hunched and his tail upright with a curl behind his back, he'd fit in fine.
ShadeNexus, could you please speak properly and post relevant things, sorry it just really bugs me.
Best. Idea. Ever.Anyway, I don't know bout y'all, but when it comes to DS & Ridley's popularity, I think they're about equal, so why not add them both? Brawl character roster space is limited my huge black foot! That's just bull.
Oh, okay. From what you said ebfore, you made it sound like a couple of days' work at the most. Misunderstanding.It's not that much work, actually, for a group of 3 highly trained professionals to assemble a character. I would guess 3-4 months. Just summing up how I figured the proccess would procede.
Are you kidding me? No, not in a few days. I would prefer to believe I weren't that unknowledgebly helpless.Oh, okay. From what you said ebfore, you made it sound like a couple of days' work at the most. Misunderstanding.
Meh, can't change opinion.I too woud love both, but Ridley > DS.
Yeaaaah son! That idea is on point son! Samus would struggle against that handicap!Sorry about that shade, if it's normal to you that's fine, it was about 1.30 in the morning when I posted that so I wasn't exactly thinking clearly (mmm CSI: Miami then CSI: NY then Zelda till 2.30 that was fun...). Just post things relevant not "I like your sig"
It's chill, no apologies necessary bro. It's just da way I was brought up ya know what I'm sayin. Plus, I tend to post irrelavant things at late hours, I'll admit it.
Wait I just had an awesome idea! In the adventure mode (if it's more involving) or in the event matches they could have the ultimate samus battle of Samus vs Ridley + DS. Wouldn't that be awesome?
Just copy the encription at the beginning that looks like this "[ QUOTE=shadenexus18;1991264 ]", add a few /QUOTE's and you're good to go.My bad, I didn't do that on purpose you know.
Well I agree with the stupid noise, Nintendo was forced to put some kind of limiter on your adventuring capabilities. Whether it is an out of date translator, a hatch that only the Power Bomb can open, lack of Grapple Beam, or other things, Metroid has always done this to us. What are you talking about!?! I love love LOVE LOVE everything about the Light Suit! Nintendo did a great job designing it, I was dissappointed that you couldn't have white Samus vs. white Link.it was just a cheap way of limiting your exploration till you got the lame arsed light suit pile o' crap.
Ridley just seems a better rival and more what samus should be fighting in a well, fighting game. But if they add both.... man that opens up some awesome possibilites like having one really good player fighting off against 2 others playing as Ridley and DS, mmm ridley and DS as a team now that'd rock; kinda like if they add wolf to brawl then you could have some double team fox + falco vs wolf.
Wait I just had an awesome idea! In the adventure mode (if it's more involving) or in the event matches they could have the ultimate samus battle of Samus vs Ridley + DS. Wouldn't that be awesome?
Why would you take offense to him saying that it would be easy to come up with a moveset? Unless you couldn't...i dont even know t-major i just said that because of his quote from a little whiel ago when he said that anyone who has ever seen ridley could come up with some a moves, or something like that, which i took quite a large amount of offensive too, being an avid gamer especially on the metroid series, and people can treat me unfairly because im a jerk anyone who's read any of my posts can see that, i like to express what i feel, but if this is some sort of weird hazing thing i think that's pretty low
in closing Dark Samus for brawl
I agree with everything Rhyme said (except "DS for Brawl" ).Why would you take offense to him saying that it would be easy to come up with a moveset? Unless you couldn't...
It's not hazing, it's gangbanging. But seriously, if you talk like a jerk, which you say you sometimes do, then people will treat you with the same level of respect. It has nothing to do with the fact that you are new here, at least not in my eyes.
Yeah Dark Samus w00t!
So basically you want a skinny fireball spitting ****** alien Pterosaur as a character in brawl?Ridley definately - i mean c'mon he's a frickin' dragon thing. he rocks completley and im all for unique characters, and im pretty sure so are the creators of the game. Hes the most requested Metroid charcter and i would much appreciate if the game developers listened to the fans for once.
and Ridley would suck as a boss in Brawl - either be in the game as a playable character or not at all.
Ridley isn't scary because of his size, Ridley is scary because he's a space pteradactyl, not just because he's big. And just because he would be scaled down in Brawl from his regular gargantuan to mearlt very large doesn't mean he would become a ******. Neither Bowser nor DK are anywhere near their full size in Melee, yet they doesn't look any less intimidating for it.So basically you want a skinny fireball spitting ****** alien Pterosaur as a character in brawl?
Wouldn't that make Ridley loose his "I am a scary giant space pirate with wings!" if he brought down in size?
I hardly see how the hunters are more likely than ridley. You seem to be basing that DS is the most likely on nothing, the fact that she/it looks similar? That's got nothing to do with it, they still have to create a fully new model and set of animations. Ridley would be awesome in, he just has to look evil and have menacing idle animations (like flicking his head back and forth as his tongue snakes up and down). He'd still be menacing, still be imposing. I'm a MAJOR ridley fan and I can see him melee sized so I fail to see how you think He'd lose his aura by being somewhat smaller, bowser is frickin awesome looking in melee and he's small, he looks far more menacing than he does in any of the games where he's big. The animations go a long way in making a character menacing, far more than his size. Ridley wasn't that big in Zero mission was he? Pah, obviously you just don't like ridley . Get it into your heads he's perfectly suited!Man, this thread still goes on. It's like a bad sitcom or something.
None of the Metroid baddies are out of the question, although some are definitely harder to visualize in Smash.
Ridley and Kraid are the 2 hardest to see, as they're both supposed to be big in the series. Now, it's not impossible that they could be scaled down (insert one of the 400 times that's been said here), but the arguement is that it might hurt their stature as a big scary bad guy. I understand that, definitely. I can see where these people are coming from.
Dark Samus is (seriously, face it) probably the most likely to get in as it (she? it?) is almost identical in every way to the original Samus. Not only would it be terribly easy to program her (change colors FTW!), her moveset is almost a given. No, I'm not saying that her moveset WOULD be the same, but in all probability, it would be. Maybe darker colors (why darker, Sensai?) and slight tweaks in speed/power, but essentially the same.
The same goes for the Hunters, but they're not as likely to get in as DS due to not being overly popular and also to their different body types. If the developers go with DS, then it will probably be because it's easy. The Hunters are a little harder to do (not much, probably), followed by Kraid or Ridley.
And, here we are at the end of the list with the most unlikely to get in: an actual Metroid. This is hands down my vote for Brawl. I won't go into why it's hard (seriously, have you played these games?), but you get the idea of how cool it would be.
I see it as the developers point of view..Inferno, you misunderstand me: I would LOVE to see Ridley in Brawl. He's in my top 5 character choices, actually.
The Hunters are more probable then Ridley because they're more realisticly sized. Yes, I know Ridley can be sized down, but will the developers do it? That's the question.
The reason that DS is more likely then Ridley is because Dark Samus is easier to do. Plain and simple.
The Hunters sizes don't make them more likely than Ridley because, honestly, size doesn't matter that much, not in smash. And will the developers scale Ridley? Yes, yes they will.Inferno, you misunderstand me: I would LOVE to see Ridley in Brawl. He's in my top 5 character choices, actually.
The Hunters are more probable then Ridley because they're more realisticly sized. Yes, I know Ridley can be sized down, but will the developers do it? That's the question.
The reason that DS is more likely then Ridley is because Dark Samus is easier to do. Plain and simple.
Samus's world is completely different then Mario's world.The Hunters sizes don't make them more likely than Ridley because, honestly, size doesn't matter that much, not in smash. And will the developers scale Ridley? Yes, yes they will.
Here's my reasoning: Part of fighting Bowser in any mario game was his size, but that has never hampered him on any of the numerous times he's been scaled down so he could fight, drive, play tennis, or golf on equal terms with Mario. Because the truth is that his largeness has never been anything more specific than "big". The very fact that he was somtimes 4 times, sometimes 16 times Mario's size is what allowed him to be scaled down to around 3/2 Mario's size for Melee. Kraid is different. Kraid's size has always been "one large room on the map". So no matter where he has appeared, his size has remained consistent reletive both to Samus and the game world itself. Ridley, however, has never had these restrictions. His size, much like Bowser's, is just a "big", and that changes from game to game. Which means that Ridley can make an appearance in Brawl where he is basicaly the same size as Bowser or DK, and still retain all of his Badassery and intimidating qualities. Kraid couldn't do it without losing that special something that only being the size of a large room can give you, but Ridley has no such something to lose. So Yes, the developers will without a doubt scale Ridley to fit in Brawl. He WILL (99% sure) be in Brawl, rest easy on that.
That's the question, actually. Will the developers feel like scaling down Ridley, or would they opt for the much easier Dark Samus?OysterMeister said:The Hunters sizes don't make them more likely than Ridley because, honestly, size doesn't matter that much, not in smash. And will the developers scale Ridley? Yes, yes they will.