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Rule #2: Never listen to Fino +1

OverLade

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It didn't look like Brood knew the Falco matchup very well, at least in a way that can combat our metagame. It's a shame he figured Larry out too late, I would've liked a 2nd set fight.

And it's obviously impossible for people to believe that Brood is a superior player to M2K, but why should it be? He's not even from this hemisphere of the planet lol. People will always have "M2K" is the most naturally talented player in the world mentallity but especially after seeing Japan I'm sure that most of japans players are similar and just use different characters.
 

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it worked both ways, brood didn't deal with the match-up very well in terms of our metagame and larry just straight up dominates that matchup.

but i agree, you can't assume who is the better player.
 

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It didn't look like Brood knew the Falco matchup very well, at least in a way that can combat our metagame. It's a shame he figured Larry out too late, I would've liked a 2nd set fight.
Yea, I think the Falco mu is the best thing America's Olis have, because our nation's best are apparently better. There may be other MUs like this too, but Brood is too good

lol@brood hate earlier in the thread
Well from what we saw then he was too overhyped. Now I guess it was all deserved :laugh:
 

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*sighs* now people will think brood is better than all american olis...*shrugs*...and he apparently isn't even the best olimar in japan
 

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*sighs* now people will think brood is better than all american olis...*shrugs*...and he apparently isn't even the best olimar in japan
He placed better than all of America's Olis. He does things we don't. He eliminated M2K from the tournament. He took second at Apex.

Look, it doesn't make me happy at all to say this because I wish it wasn't true, but he IS better (though America may be better at certain MUs).

And if he's not even the best I'd be afraid to see who the best is because the truth is that he already has most of America beat :laugh:
 

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That's fine with me. Anything that makes us Olimars strive to up our game and be the best shouldn't be shot down.

Bring on the better Olimar players, someday America will surpass them and then we'll all have a drink
 

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*sighs* now people will think brood is better than all american olis...*shrugs*...and he apparently isn't even the best olimar in japan
doesn't matter to me personally.

pride? who cares if people think you're not the best, that's when you go in and show them up by ****** them, and if they still don't think you're any good then so be it.

this applies to the mentality that a lot of the top olimars seem to have.


i think playing for pride is stupid, but that's just my opinion.
 

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see i told u HILT! XP on the stream chat i said an olimar would win apex and i was almost right XP also... Brood <3333 olimar <33333
 

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doesn't matter to me personally.

pride? who cares if people think you're not the best, that's when you go in and show them up by ****** them, and if they still don't think you're any good then so be it.

this applies to the mentality that a lot of the top olimars seem to have.


i think playing for pride is stupid, but that's just my opinion.
TBH, IMO playing for pride is the most important aspect, money is nice and all, but with pride that is deserved comes so much good feelings and perks, the mindset of being able to do anything comes with pride and there is better feeling than knowing you have accomplished something very few people will ever come close to accomplishing, pride should be what motivates players, without it, your just an empty shell of a player looking only for money
 

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If the whole game is about pride, why can't you give Brood the respect he deserves? He came to America in an unfamiliar environment and placed higher than any American Olimar has ever placed. Much as we don't want to admit it, he deserves to say that he's better than all of us (mostly you guys, I don't count :)).

@Hilt: I KNOW RIGHT!!!!!! Lol he's finally gonna be high tier like he should be :D


Chat time bros
 

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Dabuz is mad jealous right now, lol. Brood only losing to DEHF is amazing! Don't be mad that he doesn't know the matchup so well. 2nd/250+ is AMAZING w/ Olimar.

I agree w/ Redhalberd. There is always someone "better" than the "best." Japan seems to have a comparable top player scene to the USA, and I wouldn't doubt if some of their players could beat M2K, Ally, DEHF.
 

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Alright, mad logic **** comin up real quick.
*sighs* now people will think brood is better than all american olis...*shrugs*...and he apparently isn't even the best olimar in japan
Brood is DEFINITELY better than all the USA Olimar players put together there's like no comparison. You shouldn't take this as offense. He's literally like an Olimar player with M2K or Ally's mind. There should be no debate. He literally proved this like 10000 times over and just by watching him you can tell he's smoking that herb that doesnt' even grow over here.

The same can be said for RAIN even he's on some **** US falco's dont know about. Metagame/matchups/brackets deterime a lot but based on how good even Brood is Japan is definitely better than the USA in SSBB...
 
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^This man speaks the truth.

Brood is a superb player, and has quite literally proven that right here. Don't think of it as a pride destroyer, think of it as an opportunity to learn.
 

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It's definitely an opportunity. And if Brood isn't even the BEST Japan has to offer...

>.>

Yea, I'd be willing to say they're better :/
 

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I've never had so much fun watching an Olimar play. Brood is amazing.

He beat M2K (our best), Ally (arguably our second best), Lee Martin, and a slew of other high/top players. That man deserves major respect. He definitely has mine.

Same goes for Rain. Easily on Larry's level of Falco play. Anyone who denys this fact over a Falco ditto between the two is completely ********.
 

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Brood is amazing. That is all. Time for all of us to step it up. ;(
bb L idk about u but i came so hard @ double usmashes

omffggggggggg



btw they said on the stream there was another olimar player in japan supposedly better than brood, whats this kids name?
 

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Dabuz, it's time for you and I to humbly admit that there is an olimar better than us lol

I trained Larry WAYYY too well in the Oli MU tho, we play like twice a week like all night XD

I'll admit, it's hard for me to acknowledge someone is better than me, but I'm super motivated for MLG Raleigh now. I'm gonna try to do the one thing Brood couldn't ;)
 

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I think that was a culture shock thing; American Olis used to do it but everyone learned to avoid it so Olis stopped and did other things, so people started to counter those other things. Now Brood comes and does it and catches people off guard
 

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brood just has a rly good way of answering problems he comes across, his reads were spot on and we're extremely fast and well calculated. N his mix ups were nice and often deadly at times. Cuz once he got inside u knew someone was taking a free 30% if not 70% from his combo game
 

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Dabuz, it's time for you and I to humbly admit that there is an olimar better than us lol

I trained Larry WAYYY too well in the Oli MU tho, we play like twice a week like all night XD

I'll admit, it's hard for me to acknowledge someone is better than me, but I'm super motivated for MLG Raleigh now. I'm gonna try to do the one thing Brood couldn't ;)
i cannot admit that, i have yet to go to a national and prove why i am the best oli...so i will never say brood is better until i fail horribly at a big tourney
 

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i cannot admit that, i have yet to go to a national and prove why i am the best oli...so i will never say brood is better until i fail horribly at a big tourney
brood beat m2k/ally and many more people who NO OTHER olimar beat. hes the best. its simple.
 

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Dabuz...get over yourself please.

I watched you fail to complete the simple task of either 1) Not snapping your tether up vs Vinnie or 2) Rolling on stage immediately.

Brood is just better at the moment. Seriously...his mindset and game play and ADAPTLY puts him over the US olimars easily at the moment.

EDIT: My point with your recent tourney was to show that your mindset or ability to keep your cool isn't on the same level as Brood at the moment.
 

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brood beat m2k/ally and many more people who NO OTHER olimar beat. hes the best. its simple.
opinions opinions opinions, i am just saying i will never say he is the best until i know he can do what i can't...i have yet to get a chance to play those players in the past 6 months, maybe he is the best, but i will hold judgment until i see how i can fare, besides, m2k doesn't know the oli MU good AT ALL


mjg, everyone is allowed to make a mistake, especially when i thought he would be killed by stage spike way earlier than when he was
 
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