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Rule #2: Never listen to Fino +1

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Aww, you ruined my fun

Rain is a good Falco. Then soon as he beats someone in his pool he switches to MK the second round to conserve energy :laugh:
 

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Nice! And another note on Brood: he buffers nearly everything. I'm actually not the one who noticed it, some commentator on the stream did, but he's right. Just another way he's so fast
 

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Oli updates: Brood lost to some ICs in pools, Logic 2-1ed Doom
logic should get on that 2-0 status d: adn which ics beat brood?!?!

Nice! And another note on Brood: he buffers nearly everything. I'm actually not the one who noticed it, some commentator on the stream did, but he's right. Just another way he's so fast
...we can buffer...really? i want this to be explained in depth, NOA!
 

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logic should get on that 2-0 status d: adn which ics beat brood?!?!



...we can buffer...really? i want this to be explained in depth, NOA!
Lol I KNOW you know this, you just aren't thinking about it right ^_^ EVERYONE in Brawl can buffer actions in the 10 ending frames of a previous action. For example, you can air dodge into the ground and input shield+down during the last 10 frames of the air dodge to buffer a spot dodge. An Oli relevant example is Dthrow>Usmash - you buffer the Usmash. Brood just does this in many more situations
 

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Ok, they're doing an interview on the Brawl stream with Brood and Rain. Brood basically just said something along the lines of this:

"I buffer all of my attacks and so mine come out much quicker than those of American Olimars. American Olimars need to get faster and level up"

So yea, he buffers. Also, he finds our country's Olimars inferior when it comes to technical skill.

He does have a point that we don't have a habit of buffering things :/
 

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hilt, use your mod powers to change my title to "salt mountain dabuz"

logic better outplace or at least evenly place with brood, ****ing cocky *** oli calling us inferior because he buffers his attacks but loses to randoms and not even top players, **** this, i'm pissed, when i'm 18, im going to japan and ****ping on his weak *** region!

also, all he does is buffer out of his side-b and PREDICTABLE AIR DODGES, thats easy to apply
 

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hilt, use your mod powers to change my title to "salt mountain dabuz"

logic better outplace or at least evenly place with brood, ****ing cocky *** oli calling us inferior because he buffers his attacks but loses to randoms and not even top players, **** this, i'm pissed, when i'm 18, im going to japan and ****ping on his weak *** region!

also, all he does is buffer out of his side-b and PREDICTABLE AIR DODGES, thats easy to apply
 

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Not to change the topic, but epic Falco ditto Pool match on the stream: Larry v. Rain

edit: Update guys. Larry won 2-0. The first match was somewhat close (Larry was a mid-percents when he got the win) but the second one was a shutout. He got TWO 0-death chain grabs on Rain within 45 seconds, and then a third one immediately after that but Rain SDIed it onto the stage. But that didn't really matter when 15 seconds later he Illusioned off the stage and fell to his death - 3 STOCKED :laugh:
 

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so that means richbrown, AN OLIMAR, does better against larry than japan's best player (IIRC richbrown actually takes off matches) , japan is ****ing trash and their best players are cocky but can't bite as big as their roar
 

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so that means richbrown, AN OLIMAR, does better against larry than japan's best player (IIRC richbrown actually takes off matches) , japan is ****ing trash and their best players are cocky but can't bite as big as their roar
Whoa man, calm down a bit, no need to diss Rain like that. First off, it's a ditto, and regardless of who you play that a totally different beast than playing against different characters. I was surprised he nearly got chaingrab 3-stocked though; it was FD, but that's not much of an excuse. He's still an amazing Falco and probably better than a lot of American Falcos (I still think Larry is better).

IDK why everyone looks to Japanese players like if they lose a game they're terrible. If our most famous players (Ally, ADHD, Larry, whoever) went to Japan, I'm sure they'd lose some games as well - that wouldn't make them bad players. Maybe everyone just over-hyped them to an impossible to reach level and diss them for not matching it.

Also, iirc Rain 2-0ed everyone else in his pool ;)
 

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the point is, in the interviews all the **** were acting as if they were unbelievably good, and now they are losing sets, also, shadow took a game off of rain and the last game was last hit
 

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"I buffer all of my attacks and so mine come out much quicker than those of American Olimars. American Olimars need to get faster and level up"

So yea, he buffers. Also, he finds our country's Olimars inferior when it comes to technical skill.
**** Brood.
logic better outplace or at least evenly place with brood, ****ing cocky *** oli calling us inferior because he buffers his attacks but loses to randoms and not even top players, **** this, i'm pissed, when i'm 18, im going to japan and ****ping on his weak *** region!

also, all he does is buffer out of his side-b and PREDICTABLE AIR DODGES, thats easy to apply
*Brofist*

Edit: I agree with every single word Dabuz has spoken on the matter.
 

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Oh wait, they're the ones that hyped themselves up so much?

This changes my opinion greatly. I thought it was just America hyping them up so much, but they really believed they were miles ahead of our best? How dare they be so cocky and self-assured. They are good players, yes, and could be placed alongside the best of our nation (maybe not the VERY top of the nation), but for them to act like they can beat every one of America's best Brawlers is so far into douche-bag territory that I don't even know what to think of them anymore.

/rant

And yea, he may do a few things differently stylewise, but I think Brood's ego is just a little too large for the reality of things.

edit: And where is Clove for all of this Apex excitement? He's missing everything, and I'm beginning to miss him, and not just because he's holding up Newbie Mafia :/
 

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if you seem him play, you will realize easily that even with the flashy stuff that makes oli fast (which is not great for oli considering he is built on a fortress like defense and the buffering is mostly fluff) you would realize his mindset and style sets him under the top top olis of the nation

he seems to be only fifth best oli nationwide, under me/rich, greward (trust me, his olimar is really good), and logic
 

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Even if he is only fifth best, he's still quite good. Hell, that's definitely better than I'll be anytime soon :laugh: I think everyone else's meat-riding is making it hard to just acknowledge that even if he ISN'T better than our Olimars, he's still a good player nonetheless. Same goes for Rain; even if he isn't better than Larry, he's still a great player. Idk why we have to hate them for not being the best

Oh wait it's because everyone else keeps calling them that XD Friggin international hype...

LOGIC, SHOW THOSE PEOPLE WHO THE BEST OLIMAR REALLY IS!
 

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Nah, the stream just died (AGAIN) during the last match of the day and they aren't bothering to put it back up

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so two things:

first: apparently everyone who has played brood's oli is saying it far outclasses us american olis...*a single tear rolls from eye*

secondly: the way he buffers is very easy to manipulate into our game...BUT...there is another aspect about what the buffer does that we haven't known that truly makes olimar infinitely more threatening
 

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Oh please, do tell! Spill the beans! THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!

X_X

Also, how did you figure this out? Are there already videos somewhere or have you just been speaking with someone about his playing?

and the first part makes me sad too...like everyone's just ignoring the awesome things you guys have done and the amazing players that you are :(
 

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just play around with buffering every landing into an attack, i would say but i also want to see other results olimar's get so we get some variety in the findings instead of the focus being on one result i found, you might be able to figure it out anyway
 

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just play around with buffering every landing into an attack, i would say but i also want to see other results olimar's get so we get some variety in the findings instead of the focus being on one result i found, you might be able to figure it out anyway
When you say buffer the landing, is this a landing air dodge or just a plain landing?
 

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Alright. I haven't hooked up my wii since getting back home to Youngstown, but once I do I'll definitely play around with it (especially since my wifi here sucks too much to practice :()
 

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COUD WHERE ARE YOU.

hilt, use your mod powers to change my title to "salt mountain dabuz"

logic better outplace or at least evenly place with brood, ****ing cocky *** oli calling us inferior because he buffers his attacks but loses to randoms and not even top players, **** this, i'm pissed, when i'm 18, im going to japan and ****ping on his weak *** region!

also, all he does is buffer out of his side-b and PREDICTABLE AIR DODGES, thats easy to apply
Every time you change your text font I hate it even more than the last one.







Just sayin.
 

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XD

I agree with everything Dan just said (where art thou Coud, and the second part just made me lol)

So I've decided to make a video game theme for my desktop slideshow widget, but I'm not sure what to put in next. I've already found pictures for Olimar, FFX, FFXIII, Fire Emblem, and Kingdom Hearts - suggestions?
 

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Chrono Cross
Skies of Arcadia
PSO (All of them :D)
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Secret of Mana
Fallout 3
Diablo II
Final Fantasy IV
Fable I
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Lufia I & II
Chrono Trigger
KOTOR


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That should be enough...


I like RPGs. >__>
 

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I 2-0 everyone in both pools but doom, and the round I lost against him I Mk ditto'd him

I friendlied brood in a set and won

chibo 2-0'd brood in pools (he can't beat that logicmar though ;) )

the **** can't camp well... rats all I got for today guys
 

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Chrono Cross
Skies of Arcadia
PSO (All of them :D)
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Secret of Mana
Fallout 3
Diablo II
Final Fantasy IV
Fable I
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Lufia I & II
Chrono Trigger
KOTOR


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That should be enough...


I like RPGs. >__>
Great suggestions, especially Chrono Trigger, I don't know how I forgot about that one

I 2-0 everyone in both pools but doom, and the round I lost against him I Mk ditto'd him

I friendlied brood in a set and won

chibo 2-0'd brood in pools (he can't beat that logicmar though ;) )

the **** can't camp well... rats all I got for today guys
Nicely done Logic, though we wouldn't expect anything less ^_^

AND I FIGURED AS MUCH ABOUT BROOD NOT CAMPING WELL!! I was thinking it was just a doubles habit, but when I saw him play he threw VERY few pikmin, only purples if I recall. Good **** showing him who's the master of the ditto!!! His lack of camping ability also probably explains why he lost to Chibo. Screw what anyone says about Brood; American Olimars adapt to the matchup and THAT'S what makes a good Olimar ;)

Logic, we're all rooting for you tomorrow; Frost those Flakes and show everyone who the true Pikmin Champ is
 

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but after beating him he still said he's the best oli Lmao. o yea. my Mk can beat him I'm sure. o yea, I don't think he's used to mks invincible nairing
 

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but after beating him he still said he's the best oli Lmao. o yea. my Mk can beat him I'm sure. o yea, I don't think he's used to mks invincible nairing
Vids or it didn't happen but there better be vids because i would love you forever but not in a weird way but just because you're awesome O_o

So yea, get it recorded :)
 

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okay, im tired of metaknight. he keeps stealing first place at tourneys here in Texas D: He stole my first place today! I'm think of new effective mind games against MK. I already have one, please tell me your effective mind games.

1. In close range I'm always expecting their down smash. I'm going to sh whistle the smash then punish with incomplete nair to follow up.


 

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Denti! You're never around here, you should social more :)

Nice idea btw; I haven't tried out shield the dsmash>SH dair yet so now I have two things to play with the next time I get a chance

And EVERYONE is tired of Metaknight. Who cares if he's beatable; it's so gosh darn difficult that players that would otherwise be considered good get eliminated from tournaments before they get a chance to show their stuff. At the end of the day, the majority of the time, the game just comes down to beating Metaknight. Even if you have a counter (like ours is Luigi [except for Logic]), it won't matter unless your counter can beat Metaknight.

Amazing players can rise to beat him (sometimes), but no one can argue that he's not the focal point of the game.

*sigh*

I was about to say I'd probably cry in happiness if someone besides M2K wins Apex (I probably would) but it just makes me think of all the people he would have eliminated on his way to finals...
 
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