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Fool, I AM Sakurai! And I say he should!
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Roster Prediction Discussion Thread
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Arcadenik
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And yet Sakurai cared about canon oh so much that he didn't think Dr. Mario should be an alternate costume for Mario because it would be weird to see Dr. Mario throwing fireballs. Sakurai can be very inconsistent.
Rebellious Treecko
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The Grovyle from PMD2 won't get in, but I wanna have a try at the whole propaganda thing.Everyone has a propaganda of some character.
That said, you guys still don't see the amusement of Dr. Kawashima brings in the game.
Beating up a plumber with a fitness trainer is amusing, but beating up a bounty hunter with a floating head is just as amusing IMO.
Expect a slew of Grovyle pics sometime in the future...maaaaybe?
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KingofPhantoms
The Spook Factor
Eh, I'd say some moves, like his Flame Choke, suit him. And a character can benefit from their personality moveset-wise sometimes, (take Wario for example) but it's not really a factor that can help a character get in Smash aside from that.
TheLastJinjo
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Absolutely not! Ganondorf's character is a really strong evil wizard. Using a sword is just what he's more commonly seen using. They are arguing that he should use what he uses most and not what fits his actual character.
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Morbi
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You know what would exemplify what he uses most AND something that showcases his actual character? If he utilized his sword and his magic.
KingofPhantoms
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Almost forgot to relpy to this-
I'm usually one of the last ones to leave the park, but only if I'm staying at a nearby hotel. (mainly because I live several miles away from Anaheim, takes me a good few hours to get there. Which is also why I don't like to go on any water rides unless I'm staying at hotel)
I go to Disneyland at least once every year, either in October or December for the Haunted Mansion's Nightmare Before Christmas redesign.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind Ganon's current moves (aside from the fact they're unreliable in Brawl) if some weren't just tweaked from Falcon.
They could be similar for all I care, but not at the extent of "Ganon Punch" and "Ganon Kick".
As to whoever asked when Ganon used electricity:
They could be similar for all I care, but not at the extent of "Ganon Punch" and "Ganon Kick".
As to whoever asked when Ganon used electricity:
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I come back a half an hour later for Noah to once again be ignorant with a response, and swearing like a sailor too, totally respectable. Oh well, it's expected. At least people actually agree with me. 
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Sakurai! Make a costume pack where everyone has a mustache!
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Frostwraith
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>Really strong evil wizard.
>Should have punches and kicks copied from Captain Falcon that have the fire effects replaced with darkness.
What's wrong with having him mix dark magic and swordplay, while also having some attacks like Flame Choke? Ever heard of a Mage Fighter or a Mage Knight?
Him having a sword is actually a demonstration of his physical strength. You do know swords are heavy, right?
Starcutter
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you guys are STILL talking about gannondorf? like, really? there's not THAT much to talk about.
what about luigifying FALCO? maybe that? HUH?
what about luigifying FALCO? maybe that? HUH?
KingofPhantoms
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I'm probably one of the few people that doesn't want Ganondorf to use a weapon and still be less "Falcon".
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The point is actually there SHOULDN'T be alot to talk about, but sadly that's never the case on Smashboards.
As for Luigifying Falco...sure, sounds good, make him more like they did with Wolf, differentiate his specials and make all his normals completely different...oh...AND CHANGE THE FINAL SMASH!
I prefer that he's a hybrid of magic and weaponry, more magic than anything. The sword would be in one smash attack and a few aerials and maybe a tilt, the rest being magic powered attacks, since that's the kind of combat Ganondorf deserves.
Chandeelure
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Frostwraith
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The CD-i games aren't exactly good examples, considering Nintendo has decided to ignore them completely. Unless Sakurai knows about them and decided to use electricity based on CD-i Ganon, which I find extremely unlikely.
Once again: Ganondorf should get an overhaul to his moveset. Enough said.
I'm off.
Once again: Ganondorf should get an overhaul to his moveset. Enough said.
I'm off.
Morbi
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It occurs when two individuals have adamant opinions, the arguments might be circular, but they are fun to read. Not to mention new thoughts and ideas are sometimes thrown into the scenario to question our understanding on the opposing perspective.
Although, if we were to clarify, we don't necessarily want Ganon to become a swordsmen, we want him to actually use his sword. That is a central aspect in regards to his character. He doesn't need to turn into an Ike clone. He can use physical strength, swords, and magic. I mean look at the plethora of crazy **** that Villager or Game and Watch can do. The character doesn't need to be cohesive. It needs to be fun.
KingofPhantoms
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Eh, I really don't care too much about him using his sword. Have in him use it in like, 3 or 4 attacks in Smash, and I'd be fine. I care more about his potential magic based attacks and being less of a Falcon clone. I just want his moveset to stay more true to his character. (and at the same time he could easily be a fun, unique and interesting character to play as)
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That really comes down to interpretation of the character. Ganondorf seeks and covets power/control but power and control aren't always his main defining personality traits - rather, he is a man of great cunning and of some level of general intelligence (if a little short-sighted intelligence) who happens to end up wielding great power. Power and dominance are the things he seeks, not necessarily what he is - and many would argue that he is a tactician, a psychopath, a skilled weapon user and adept long-range magician.
Ganondorf's current moveset is disappointing to some because it is a gross simplification of his character. Ganondorf is so much more than just "really freakin' powerful" but his current moveset doesn't suggest that.
TumblrFamous
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Behold, the Holder of the Triforce of Wisdom, chosen by destiny!
Honestly, smart post. Where were you three pages back?!
Morbi
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I went out to go eat dinner, haha.
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So much talk of Ganon... Any ideas for a new Up-B?
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I dunno, his floating ability from Ocarina of Time?
But...but...MUH SHEER BRUTE STRENGTH!!! D:
What'd ya have?
TumblrFamous
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My idea still stands for that levitating ability in OoT where he has his arms folded and he gracefully floats around like it's nobody's business.
But I had this creative idea. It's called "The Sacred Realm". He vanishes into Darkness, presumably into the Sacred Realm, and reappears somewhere else on the stage.
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I really don't see a sword as a central aspect to him.
Of the times he's in his human (Gerudo, whatever) form:
-doesn't use a sword in OoT (only used in a SpaceWorld Demo, though admittedly, that sword is frigging beast)
-uses a pair in WW
-begrudgingly uses one in TP (he hates the sword since it was used for his intended execution; he only uses it to smite the gods by having their blade cause innocent blood to spill)
Now, I'm not saying that super strength is more of a central aspect, but I personally feel pounding at someone with his bare hands fits him better than using a sword (unless it's the SpaceWorld/Melee sword).
So I'd rather see him keep the style he has shown in Smash, but be changed up to be less like Falcon through means of wizardry (since he is a warlock).
Of the times he's in his human (Gerudo, whatever) form:
-doesn't use a sword in OoT (only used in a SpaceWorld Demo, though admittedly, that sword is frigging beast)
-uses a pair in WW
-begrudgingly uses one in TP (he hates the sword since it was used for his intended execution; he only uses it to smite the gods by having their blade cause innocent blood to spill)
Now, I'm not saying that super strength is more of a central aspect, but I personally feel pounding at someone with his bare hands fits him better than using a sword (unless it's the SpaceWorld/Melee sword).
So I'd rather see him keep the style he has shown in Smash, but be changed up to be less like Falcon through means of wizardry (since he is a warlock).
FlareHabanero
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No, I know that feel bro.
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That face.....
Only if they all wear a fancy suit and a top hat. And don't forget the swim suit pack(for EVERYONE, and yes it'll be awkard). No game is complete without it.Sakurai! Make a costume pack where everyone has a mustache!
TumblrFamous
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I agree, it's what I was advocating. He's known for brute strength, magic, and swordplay. Clearly now his strength is being shown off a lot more than everything else, so I always advocated for a solid combination of different attacks.
Morbi
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This is essentially what I am actually hoping for, I wouldn't mind a move or two using his sword. Maybe as a brutal side smash or something. Other than that, I actually do like his more physical focus. I just want something pertaining to his sword in his new move-set. Well, something more than his taunt that is.
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As long as he's just as fast and has similar standard smash attacks, any changes to Falco shouldn't make him any more or less desirable to play as. I can live without the reflector and firebird if new luigified attacks are just as effective and just as fun.
But then again I'm biased. You can make Falco a Jigglypuff clone and I'll still play him.
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You NEED a Glasses pack! What would you do if everyone in the game didn't wear GLASSES?!
I don't know about Brute Strength to begin with...he couldn't even knock out a 12 year old boy with his fists, let alone kill him.
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Anything but just flying. He should keep an Up-B that'll do damage. Seeing as he'd likely stay a power-house fighter.
TumblrFamous
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Ganondorf is a gentle giant...I don't know about Brute Strength to begin with...he couldn't even knock out a 12 year old boy with his fists, let alone kill him.
TheLastJinjo
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The one from Twilight Princess? Probably not that much. It's a poor demonstration of his physical strength. It'd be pretty hard for him to demonstrate how strong he really is with that sword. And the sword itself wouldn't give off a much powerful effect in Smash like Ike's would. That creates a problem. The current move set is fine because it stays true to his strength and it uses magic without drawing away from his strength. So you have 2 of the most important parts of Ganondorf already in the move set. All that's missing is the generic sword which seems perfectly fine as a taunt. If you want to throw the sword in there that's fine, but you need to come up with a feasible way to do that which wouldn't draw away from the main power or point of this Smash fighter. What can he do with the sword that he couldn't do with his fists in Smash? I see Ganondorf as more of a wizard than a knight. The only game he used his sword more than magic was Wind Waker. So why change the wizard who wields the triforce of strength's move set from magic with strength to magic with sword? If you change it to magic with sword you don't have his body strength. So if he uses his magic (which he does and is his most common ability) then that's enough.
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He wasn't trying to kill him. Just make him hurt.I don't know about Brute Strength to begin with...he couldn't even knock out a 12 year old boy with his fists, let alone kill him.
Morbi
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I probably would too! Falco needs to puff up as his Final Smash. No more Landmaster, that is over done!
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The look on his face said otherwise.
Yes, he's so kind to smack Toon Zelda in the face every time she hits him with a light arrow.
Such a kind soul, I wonder if he works soup kitchens...
TumblrFamous
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When does he use magic in his moveset? I mean actual magic, like where he casts darkness out of his hand or throws electricity at you? His strength attacks just have magical properties to them. While it does represent his magic in some way, I feel like it isn't enough. It's too focused on his physical attacks.
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