Roster Discussion Thread (Closed)

[Croph]

Still think Roy is X-rated. C'mon guys, they have got to lower the rating.

 

[volbound1700]

I am not sure if Nintendo likes King K. Rool because outside of Super Mario Sluggers, we haven't seen the guy lately and DK has been having different villians as of late.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Still think Roy is X-rated.

Roy's our playboy?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Still think:

Isa and Micaiah are underrated
Little Mac and Ghirahim are rated just right
Roy and Mewtwo are overrated

 

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EDIT: Is the SSB4 Backroom gone? (-Ó_Ò-)

I'm not sure, it's not showing up under any of my user file data and it came up with an error message when I used an old link for it. I've already asked about social groups twice in the New Forum thread, but no one has responded. Either they're gone or have yet to be added.

For some reason I find the like-button pointless in forums.

Agreed. I also miss the friend option, now all we have is "following" (to which somehow I'm following Oasis).

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Like Girahim has a chance

For some reason he stuck out more than anyone else on the list

Ghirahim is practically one of the Zelda characters that stands the most chance of getting in.

And he stands out because people like him.

 

[Deleted member]

Stiil I think
"character I like" is underrated
"character I hate" is overrated.

So on that PS4 everyone is hyping the **** out of it. Though I still think it'll flop. At least both it and the Xbawks should. According to patents, both force you to have a connection to play games. But IGN and the like wont stop sucking Phony's ****. Don't wanna sound like fanboy, but refusing to accept the WiiU as a next gen console was a low ****ing blow.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Stiil I think
"character I like" is underrated
"character I hate" is overrated.

So on that PS4 everyone is hyping the **** out of it. Though I still think it'll flop. At least both it and the Xbawks should. According to patents, both force you to have a connection to play games. But IGN and the like wont stop sucking Phony's ****. Don't wanna sound like fanboy, but refusing to accept the WiiU as a next gen console was a low ****ing blow.

Don't worry, Nintendo and its fans will stand up and make a statement

 

[Ember Reaper]

Bowser Jr. and Vaati are underrated.
Mewtwo, King K. Rool, Ridley are rated correctly.
Waddle Dee and Waluigi are overrated.

I'd put Palutena in overrated, but I haven't played Uprising so I can't say for myself!

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

So on that PS4 everyone is hyping the **** out of it. Though I still think it'll flop. At least both it and the Xbawks should. According to patents, both force you to have a connection to play games. But IGN and the like wont stop sucking Phony's ****. Don't wanna sound like fanboy, but refusing to accept the WiiU as a next gen console was a low ****ing blow.

I have a feeling they'll flop as well. Remember when the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 came out? Those things were expensive! I'm sure their next gen consoles will be selling around $500+

The Wii U will pick up stream once the system sellers Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are released. I mean look at how the 3DS is selling now after Mario Kart 7 was released.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

I have a feeling they'll flop as well. Remember when the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 came out? Those things were expensive! I'm sure their next gen consoles will be selling around $500+

The Wii U will pick up stream once the system sellers Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are released. I mean look at how the 3DS is selling now after Mario Kart 7 was released.

That, the other Nintendo fanchises (ranging from F-Zero and Fire Emblem to Sin & Punishment and Metroid) coming out, and when the 3rd party games all start showing up

 

[Croph]

How do you tell if a character is overrated or underrated? No seriously, I'm bad when it comes to these things. In order to be overrated, does the character need to have so much hype and a delusional fan base? If a character is really popular and has a good shot at getting in, I don't see them as overrated. Being obscure isn't the same as underrated, right?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

How do you tell if a character is overrated or underrated? No seriously, I'm bad when it comes to these things. In order to be overrated, does the character need to have so much hype and a delusional fan base? If a character is really popular and has a good shot at getting in, I don't see them as overrated. Being obscure isn't the same as underrated, right?

Judging by the way other people in this thread are acting.
Underrated = I like them.
Overrated = I don't like them.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Judging by the way other people in this thread are acting.
Underrated = I like them.
Overrated = I don't like them.

Actually I only did it because I saw everyone else doing it

But I said Isa was underrated because everyone's eye automatically seems to be going to Saki for Sin & Punishment, when he is just as possible/likely as his dad.

I said Micaiah was underrated because everyone is going onto characters that either were taken out or missed their chances over her (not guaranteeing her and not counting people looking to Chrom, he is a good choice). That she missed her chance with Brawl (which she didn't since Brawl was Gamecube/GBA and they were already working on Ike because of Path of Radiance). That she is downplayed because people seem to want her just because she is a female rep, although one of the more popular ones and I heard from someone that Sakurai wants to get more females in the game.

Little Mac and Ghirahim were just right because they both get love and hate, but both make sense for Smash Bros either way.

Mewtwo is not necessarily overrated but everyone just wants him back while a lot of the roster for Pokemon is also kept the same. I know this is a dead topic but that is just too much Gen 1, especially when other characters from later gens make just as much sense. I like Mewtwo and he is the only character I see coming back but not at the expense of someone new.

As for Roy, I like the character as well. My favorite in Melee. It is just that I feel he is overrated because it appears everyone wants him just to have him back. Yes he is popular but once he was removed from Brawl everyone seemed to go nuts over him. His popularity zoomed up because the fanbas kept saying he should just be added back in, especially over newer Fire Emblem characters.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Never said it was you dude. You put a funny face in you post. You were making a joke.

 

[Deleted member]

In order for there to be people going nuts over Roy's removal, there had to have been a sizeable fanbase beforehand.

If being gone was the sole reason people clamor for him, then Dr. Mario and Pichu would be just as demanded.

And as proven time and time again, "Generation representation" is a load of hogwash. And at the same time, someone new that doesn't really deserve it should not be in over someone like Mewtwo.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

In order for there to be people going nuts over Roy's removal, there had to have been a sizeable fanbase beforehand.

If being gone was the sole reason people clamor for him, then Dr. Mario and Pichu would be just as demanded.

And as proven time and time again, "Generation representation" is a load of hogwash. And at the same time, someone new that doesn't really deserve it should not be in over someone like Mewtwo.

Yeah, I am not denying he is popular. But I don't think it was as big as this back when he was in Melee. Also Dr. Mario and Pichu aren't really demanded because they are practically character doubles (where it works for a second Link because of the timeline).

I just feel it should not be mainly Gen 1 when we have had a Gen 2 Remake, Gen 5, and soon to be Gen 6 within the last couple of years up until now. And what makes you think someone being new means they don't deserve it?

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

Characters shouldn't be included in Smash Bros. just cause their new. The game's roster should consist of NINTENDO ALLSTARS. An overall representation of Nintendo's most iconic characters. Adding a new Gen 6 Pokemon wouldn't make much sense in my opinion unless their using it as a promoting platform (which is stupid, go promote your game series somewhere else).

 

[Deleted member]

"In order for there to be people going nuts over Roy's removal, there had to have been a sizeable fanbase beforehand."
What part of that did you not get?

As for the new issue, just because someone is new doesn't mean they deserve anything. They have to EARN their keep.
Lucario wasn't added in Brawl because he was brand spanking new. He was added because of how much of an icon he became in just a short amount of time. Something Zoroark tried to do and failed. As for the 6th Generation, of the 6 Pokemon we know so far, none of them will be Newcomers:
Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie won't because they are starters, which borders into Pokemon Trainer territory, with the Kanto starters being the most notable while replacing them with newer nobodies is counterproductive.
Xerneas and Yveltal won't because they are the token Version Mascot Legendaries and have improper body types.
Sylveon, no matter how popular it will become, won't be in Smash because of improper body type (and before you use Ivysaur as a retort, remember that Ivysaur has vines; from what we've seen of Sylveon's ribbons, they cannot be used in the same way.).
We don't even have a 6th Gen equivlent of Lucario/Zoroark this time around. Instead, we have, SURPRISE: Mewtwo coming back into spotlight.
So that leaves a bunch of currently unknown Pokemon who only have the fact they are new going for them. Newer nobodies are still nobodies. They are just as deserving as Pokemon like Farfetch'd.

 

[Ember Reaper]

They are just as deserving as Pokemon like Farfetch'd.

Or Dunsparce

I agree with everything you said regardless of joke.

 

[Opossum]

Pretty good poll, Shortie. Fittingly, Shortie's poll is short and precise.

Spoiler

Although I personally think Starfy stands a better shot than Ghirahim, but to each his own.

EDIT: Someone got fancy with the Spoiler tag...

 

[FalKoopa]

I heard from someone that Sakurai wants to get more females in the game.

Really? /10charlimit.

Man, I don't like these new spoiler tags.

 

[Opossum]

He never said that, to my knowledge. Being female has never been a deciding factor.

 

[lobotheduck21]

New website is not bad, just needs some touch-ups

Isn't also the 15 anniversary of star-fox? (maybe it can be a month in the year of luigi )

 

[Opossum]

It saddens me that the troll smilie no longer works...

RIP Troll Face...

 

[FalKoopa]

It saddens me that the troll smilie no longer works...

RIP Troll Face...

Yeah, It was perhaps the most commonly used smiley.

 

[SmashShadow]

Pokemon doesn't need an advertisement character in Smash anyways. Every Pokemon appears or will appear in multiple gens getting plenty of exposure. Pokemon isn't some obscure title. It's one of the most popular titles Nintendo has. Putting in a character just for the sake of it being new is stupid because that's not what Smash is about anyways which is like IAm2Sarcastic4U said. If Sakurai is so worried about gens then I guess we should expect a new rep from 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 6th gen next game.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Man, I don't like these new spoiler tags.

Yeah, I miss the blacked-out text. The new spoiler tags seem a lot closer to the old collapse tags.

 

[lobotheduck21]

The troll face was the biggest casualty leading up to e3

guess i'll use the face as my new joking face

 

[Shorts]

So on that PS4 everyone is hyping the **** out of it. Though I still think it'll flop. At least both it and the Xbawks should. According to patents, both force you to have a connection to play games. But IGN and the like wont stop sucking Phony's ****. Don't wanna sound like fanboy, but refusing to accept the WiiU as a next gen console was a low ****ing blow.

Oh no, it may flop in sales at first, but, IM SURE the system in almost every way will be superior to the Wii U. Not that it matters, Nintendo will outlive Microsoft and Sony.

He never said that, to my knowledge. Being female has never been a deciding factor.

Im super super sure I read an interview where he DID say (Even if only once) something alluding to ZSS being added to add more females. I don't feel like quote searching on that though.

 

[Opossum]

I'll check. Be right back.

 

[N3ON]

Regarding Sakurai adding more females, no he never said he wanted more females in the game, he just basically said he is happy to include them, because he is aware of the lack of females in Smash. Regarding ZSS specifically, he said he added her to better represent Metroid, not to include another female.

Source.

 

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I put Zero Suit Samus in thinking I wanted to include more characters from the popular Metroid series. Also, since Smash Bros. has few female characters, I was quite happy to include her.

You heard it here folks, ZZS counts as the 2nd Metroid character. lol

EDIT: Got Ninja-d by N3ON.

 

[Shorts]

Regarding Sakurai adding more females, no he never said he wanted more females in the game, he just basically said he is happy to include them, because he is aware of the lack of females in Smash. Regarding ZSS specifically, he said he added her to better represent Metroid, not to include another female.

Source.

So, he wanted to add ZSS, and it's a plus that she was a female. Also bolded for sillyness.

You heard it here folks, ZZS counts as the 2nd Metroid character. lol

Of course she is, do people think she's not?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

You heard it here folks, ZZS counts as the 2nd Metroid character. lol

Well, yeah, she does, in Sakurai's head at least. If Sheik & Zelda, Doc and Mario, and Link and Young Link can be counted separately, the n there's no reason ZSS shouldn't count either.

Of course, the question remains whether or not that's enough for the Metroid series.

 

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Mostly said that as a joke, but I have seen people deny her as a separate character.

 

[Opossum]

Ah, I'm glad someone found the quote. So in all, it wasn't a case of affirmative action, it was just that her being female was a nice bonus.

*shrug*

 

[Shorts]

Of course, the question remains whether or not that's enough for the Metroid series.

Which depends on who you're talking to.

her being female was a nice bonus.

Sex appeal yo. She's a femme fatale.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Roy's our playboy?

Spoiler

I think I found some good use for the spoiler tags now...

 

[Big-Cat]

Stiil I think
"character I like" is underrated
"character I hate" is overrated.

So on that PS4 everyone is hyping the **** out of it. Though I still think it'll flop. At least both it and the Xbawks should. According to patents, both force you to have a connection to play games. But IGN and the like wont stop sucking Phony's ****. Don't wanna sound like fanboy, but refusing to accept the WiiU as a next gen console was a low ****ing blow.

Are you freaking kidding me? I gotta be connected to use the 720? I've put so many hours into my 360 that I'd hate to have to always be connected to just even use it. Here's to hoping that in the worse case scenario, that fighting games will be brought to the Wii U much more often. In other words, I want Chrono Phantasma, Tekken 7, Street Fighter 5, etc. on the Wii U in the future.