Rhubarbo
Smash Champion
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I compiled a revision of my lod character list with some ommissions and inclusions. Check it out:
Mario Series:
Mario
Bowser
Luigi: There is no way this guy isn't coming back!
Peach
Bowser Jr.: Not a Bowser clone, a relatively important character.
Honorable Mention: Paper Mario
Zelda Series:
Link
Zelda/Sheik: Zelda uses OoT moves, so why should Sheik be ommited?
Ganondorf: ntegral to the franchise, can use a sword from TP.
Y.Link/Cel Link: He reprsents the modern Link. His moves would differ entirely from Link's.
HM: Mindna/Midna+Wolf Link, Y.Link (Majoras Mask)
Metroid Series:
Samus/ZSS: I'm debating whether she would be selectable from the starting roster bia a button combo. But, as it stands, her very presence seems to be punishment of an uber FS.
Ridley: The Super-Special-Awesome dragon can not be over looked. Size has been proven to be entirely dis-regarded in Smash (those Trophy sculptors has terrible motor skills).
HM: Dark Samus
Pokemon Series:
Pikachu
Jigglypuff: A staple of the Smash series, a game without Jigs would stink
PT
Lucario-He represents the fourth gen, his moveset would be interesting, and he would well promote the franchise.
On the Virge: Mewtwo: Well, if anything I see him being replaced by Lucario. His presence was stronger back in the Melee days because he had an up coming movie, a past movie, and was still pretty UbEr in the Pokemon community. He has lost poplarity since...
HM: None
Kirby Series:
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
HM: None
Wario Series:
Wario
HM: Ashley
Yoshi Series:
Yoshi
HM: None
Fire Emblem Series:
Ike
Michaih: Tellius is where it's at, and Michaih is one of the most intriguing characters from that story arc. Her method of combat would be a first for the series, she is female, and she promotes a more recent game.
OtV: Marth: He has an upcoming DS game, and he was the first lord. But, Ike has two similar moves. They wouldn't play anythin like eachother, and sharing those moves might be intentional. As of right now, he is "On the Virge".
HM: Black Knight, Sigurd,
DK Series:
DK
Diddy
OtV: K.Rool: I know very little of the DK series, but what I know is that it is spiritually entwined with the Mario series. I really don't see himg getting in personally, but he does have a relatively strong following.
HM: None
MOTHER Series:
Lucas
OtV: Claus: SPOILERS on MOTHER 3
Claus is Lucas' twin. He leads the Pig Mask Army, and has his army's theme confirmed for Brawl. His odds are strong in my opinion, and he would have a heck of a moveset. (MOTHER 3 translatio Nintendo, PRONTO!).
HM: Ness: Alright, he is cut. He has low odds of getting in, but I don't think so. It would be nice to maintain the "originals", but Lucas is similar enough for me. Lucas imo, also has a lot more personality. (I say this because I like Jimmy Neutron...okay, that was a joke, don't say that I like that).
Star Fox Series:
Fox
Krystal: She's a prominent female, her moveset would obviously revolve around the staff, and she could promote an upcoming Krystal Adventure game (which I would not mind at all).
OtV: Falco: He is extremely popular, he can have his own moveset, but his odds are a little lower than Krystal. Expect to see him in however.
HM: Wolf
Classic Series:
Pit
Ice Climbers
G&W: A representation of the baby stages of what made Nintendo what it is today. The most off-beat character in Melee MUST be included.
OtV: Takamaru: He looks really sweet, and a full-fledged ninja in Brawl would be quite the way to fight. He is outranked, but would be a neat addition non the less.
ROB: I know, this is TOTALLY un-called for, and has very small odds, but I wouldn't mind ROB to be an un-lockable fighter after beating the SSE. That would be a cool character to add, and would totally catch everyone off guarad.
HM: Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter
Smash Series:
HM: Primid Fighter, Ancient Minister: I was debating on including a Smash based character from the SSE, but then again, Smash is a compilation of OTHER fighters.
Third Parties:
Snake
Sonic
Geno: This guy is totally bad-***. I never got to playing as Geno in SMRPG (I jsut started), but from the info I have gethered on him does motivate me to inclide him. His odds are high, and he would make for a nice WTF character.
OtV: Mega Man: Now, I know I don't like putting him here, but Mega Man does have lower odds than Geno, and there will most likely only be three third parties (could be totally wrong). Why Geno is give priority is because, well, he is more popular amongst the inner community, he isn't as conventional, and, he is more of a Mario character addition. See, Square (now SquareEnix) developed SMRPG and owns the rights to all the characters in that game. Geno originated from that game. Nintendo would have to go make a deal with SquareEnix to include him (possibly paying them royalties) and that lowers Mega Mans odds as getting four contracts is rather difficult (I guess).
Also, Mega Man is not as iconic. See, Sonic and Mario had a rivalry, Snake was included because Hideo Kojima (his creator) requested his inclusion (even back in Melee). Mega Man did have stardom, but his was still inferior. Both him and Sonic were butchered, but Sonic will forever remain iconic...Mega Man on the other hand.
Fresh Franchises:
Pikmin, Captain Olimar: Pikmin 3 is rumored to be in development, and Olimar would just bolster it's sales. Even without Pikmin 3, Olimar is by far the coolest new Nintendo character, with the BEST fresh GCN game. It would be a tragedy to exclude him.
Animal Crossing, Ace: I have dubbed this fighter Ace (by taking AC and adding e). He would utilize the tools from the three Animal Crossing games. His inclusion is inevitable, and I am willing to bet my (friend's) right nut.
Golden Sun, Isaac/GS3 Protagonist: Golden Sun 3 is also another game rumored to be in development. It's stroy would likely differ from GS 1&2, so a new character would be the protagonist. This character could possilby pull of a "Roy" and debut in Smash to promote their upcoming game.
Aside from that possible character, Isaac is the only other possible GS rep. He would only wield his sword for aeriels and tilts. Other wise, his Psynergy powers would be utilized.
OtV: Custom Robo, Ray01: The closes to a fighting series Nintendo has outside of Smash, a Robo would be a good rep. The series was present in the form of Trophies in Melee, and might get into Brawl .If the series is not represented by a PC, it will defintely get an AT.
Advance Wars, Will: Will is the protagonist of the upcoming Advance Wars game. In this game, the commanders actually are on the Battlefield. Despite not fighting, they have a more direct presence on the field of battle. This bolsters their Smash odds. If the army AT get's an icon, there will be a PC.
Nintendo Hardware, Mii: The DS got an icon presumably representing Nintendo as a whole. It is possible the icon is strictly for the stage, but then there is music from the Wii. It's a possibilty at best though.
Excluding On the Virge Characters, Honorable Mentions, and Transformations, my list has 36 characters. If you include Sheik, ZSS and PT's Pokemon, my list has 40 characters. I expect some of my On the Virges to make the cut, but definitely not a majority of them.
Keep in mind that this is only a personaly opinion. This is how I think things might play out using my logic. Now, I'm sure someone will say "yOuR LoGiC iS TeH FlAwZ" but that is why it is personal. Critique it all you want!
Mario Series:
Mario
Bowser
Luigi: There is no way this guy isn't coming back!
Peach
Bowser Jr.: Not a Bowser clone, a relatively important character.
Honorable Mention: Paper Mario
Zelda Series:
Link
Zelda/Sheik: Zelda uses OoT moves, so why should Sheik be ommited?
Ganondorf: ntegral to the franchise, can use a sword from TP.
Y.Link/Cel Link: He reprsents the modern Link. His moves would differ entirely from Link's.
HM: Mindna/Midna+Wolf Link, Y.Link (Majoras Mask)
Metroid Series:
Samus/ZSS: I'm debating whether she would be selectable from the starting roster bia a button combo. But, as it stands, her very presence seems to be punishment of an uber FS.
Ridley: The Super-Special-Awesome dragon can not be over looked. Size has been proven to be entirely dis-regarded in Smash (those Trophy sculptors has terrible motor skills).
HM: Dark Samus
Pokemon Series:
Pikachu
Jigglypuff: A staple of the Smash series, a game without Jigs would stink
PT
Lucario-He represents the fourth gen, his moveset would be interesting, and he would well promote the franchise.
On the Virge: Mewtwo: Well, if anything I see him being replaced by Lucario. His presence was stronger back in the Melee days because he had an up coming movie, a past movie, and was still pretty UbEr in the Pokemon community. He has lost poplarity since...
HM: None
Kirby Series:
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
HM: None
Wario Series:
Wario
HM: Ashley
Yoshi Series:
Yoshi
HM: None
Fire Emblem Series:
Ike
Michaih: Tellius is where it's at, and Michaih is one of the most intriguing characters from that story arc. Her method of combat would be a first for the series, she is female, and she promotes a more recent game.
OtV: Marth: He has an upcoming DS game, and he was the first lord. But, Ike has two similar moves. They wouldn't play anythin like eachother, and sharing those moves might be intentional. As of right now, he is "On the Virge".
HM: Black Knight, Sigurd,
DK Series:
DK
Diddy
OtV: K.Rool: I know very little of the DK series, but what I know is that it is spiritually entwined with the Mario series. I really don't see himg getting in personally, but he does have a relatively strong following.
HM: None
MOTHER Series:
Lucas
OtV: Claus: SPOILERS on MOTHER 3
Claus is Lucas' twin. He leads the Pig Mask Army, and has his army's theme confirmed for Brawl. His odds are strong in my opinion, and he would have a heck of a moveset. (MOTHER 3 translatio Nintendo, PRONTO!).
HM: Ness: Alright, he is cut. He has low odds of getting in, but I don't think so. It would be nice to maintain the "originals", but Lucas is similar enough for me. Lucas imo, also has a lot more personality. (I say this because I like Jimmy Neutron...okay, that was a joke, don't say that I like that).
Star Fox Series:
Fox
Krystal: She's a prominent female, her moveset would obviously revolve around the staff, and she could promote an upcoming Krystal Adventure game (which I would not mind at all).
OtV: Falco: He is extremely popular, he can have his own moveset, but his odds are a little lower than Krystal. Expect to see him in however.
HM: Wolf
Classic Series:
Pit
Ice Climbers
G&W: A representation of the baby stages of what made Nintendo what it is today. The most off-beat character in Melee MUST be included.
OtV: Takamaru: He looks really sweet, and a full-fledged ninja in Brawl would be quite the way to fight. He is outranked, but would be a neat addition non the less.
ROB: I know, this is TOTALLY un-called for, and has very small odds, but I wouldn't mind ROB to be an un-lockable fighter after beating the SSE. That would be a cool character to add, and would totally catch everyone off guarad.
HM: Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter
Smash Series:
HM: Primid Fighter, Ancient Minister: I was debating on including a Smash based character from the SSE, but then again, Smash is a compilation of OTHER fighters.
Third Parties:
Snake
Sonic
Geno: This guy is totally bad-***. I never got to playing as Geno in SMRPG (I jsut started), but from the info I have gethered on him does motivate me to inclide him. His odds are high, and he would make for a nice WTF character.
OtV: Mega Man: Now, I know I don't like putting him here, but Mega Man does have lower odds than Geno, and there will most likely only be three third parties (could be totally wrong). Why Geno is give priority is because, well, he is more popular amongst the inner community, he isn't as conventional, and, he is more of a Mario character addition. See, Square (now SquareEnix) developed SMRPG and owns the rights to all the characters in that game. Geno originated from that game. Nintendo would have to go make a deal with SquareEnix to include him (possibly paying them royalties) and that lowers Mega Mans odds as getting four contracts is rather difficult (I guess).
Also, Mega Man is not as iconic. See, Sonic and Mario had a rivalry, Snake was included because Hideo Kojima (his creator) requested his inclusion (even back in Melee). Mega Man did have stardom, but his was still inferior. Both him and Sonic were butchered, but Sonic will forever remain iconic...Mega Man on the other hand.
Fresh Franchises:
Pikmin, Captain Olimar: Pikmin 3 is rumored to be in development, and Olimar would just bolster it's sales. Even without Pikmin 3, Olimar is by far the coolest new Nintendo character, with the BEST fresh GCN game. It would be a tragedy to exclude him.
Animal Crossing, Ace: I have dubbed this fighter Ace (by taking AC and adding e). He would utilize the tools from the three Animal Crossing games. His inclusion is inevitable, and I am willing to bet my (friend's) right nut.
Golden Sun, Isaac/GS3 Protagonist: Golden Sun 3 is also another game rumored to be in development. It's stroy would likely differ from GS 1&2, so a new character would be the protagonist. This character could possilby pull of a "Roy" and debut in Smash to promote their upcoming game.
Aside from that possible character, Isaac is the only other possible GS rep. He would only wield his sword for aeriels and tilts. Other wise, his Psynergy powers would be utilized.
OtV: Custom Robo, Ray01: The closes to a fighting series Nintendo has outside of Smash, a Robo would be a good rep. The series was present in the form of Trophies in Melee, and might get into Brawl .If the series is not represented by a PC, it will defintely get an AT.
Advance Wars, Will: Will is the protagonist of the upcoming Advance Wars game. In this game, the commanders actually are on the Battlefield. Despite not fighting, they have a more direct presence on the field of battle. This bolsters their Smash odds. If the army AT get's an icon, there will be a PC.
Nintendo Hardware, Mii: The DS got an icon presumably representing Nintendo as a whole. It is possible the icon is strictly for the stage, but then there is music from the Wii. It's a possibilty at best though.
Excluding On the Virge Characters, Honorable Mentions, and Transformations, my list has 36 characters. If you include Sheik, ZSS and PT's Pokemon, my list has 40 characters. I expect some of my On the Virges to make the cut, but definitely not a majority of them.
Keep in mind that this is only a personaly opinion. This is how I think things might play out using my logic. Now, I'm sure someone will say "yOuR LoGiC iS TeH FlAwZ" but that is why it is personal. Critique it all you want!
'd at you.