lazymp
Smash Apprentice
Not to be too general, but what are the best ways to get back on the stage from the ledge? Specifically against a character that can easily cover both the ground and platforms near the ledge (ie, Marth, Peach).
For example, if I'm 100%+ and hanging on the ledge, how can I get back onstage safely? Peach can shield grab --> fthrow if I try to hop up and fair and obviously slow getup is a no no. Jumping up to the platform gets me smacked with a nair (or fair/bair). Sometimes I can jump up and carefully waveland on the stage for a grab/tilt, but most of the time I'm either getting punished on the ground from dsmash or a grab, or getting punished by her aerials if I go up. Relatively same situation with Marth.
Does it boil down to being tricky and forcing the opponent to misread which recovery option I'll attempt?
For example, if I'm 100%+ and hanging on the ledge, how can I get back onstage safely? Peach can shield grab --> fthrow if I try to hop up and fair and obviously slow getup is a no no. Jumping up to the platform gets me smacked with a nair (or fair/bair). Sometimes I can jump up and carefully waveland on the stage for a grab/tilt, but most of the time I'm either getting punished on the ground from dsmash or a grab, or getting punished by her aerials if I go up. Relatively same situation with Marth.
Does it boil down to being tricky and forcing the opponent to misread which recovery option I'll attempt?