Rate Their Chances- Smash Ultimate Day 382: Byleth and Fighters Pass Satisfaction Ratings

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Toxtricity x95
Kazuma Kiryu x95
The Blob (De Blob) x95
Crypto x90
Freddy Fazbear x90
[Rerate] Ryu Hayabusa x85
Carmen Sandiego x85

100 - 51

Ryo Hazuki x80
Mii Costume: Hollow Knight x80
X (Mega Man) x80
Proto Man x75
Papyrus x75
Gex x75
Sackboy x70
Brian (Quest 64) x65
Decidueye x62
Reporter & Wrestler x60
[Rerate] Waluigi x58
Chun-Li x53

50 - 25

Dwight Fairfield (Dead by Daylight) x50
[Rerate] Bandana Dee x50
[Rerate] Dante x50
Meowth x50
Concept: Pokéball Pokémon becomes playable x49
Earthworm Jim x45
Echo: Zeraora (41e) x40
Concept: Echo Fighters post-Fighter Pass x40
Kasumi (Dead or Alive) x35
[Rerate] Reimu Hakurei x35
Concept: Devolver Digital rep x30
Urbosa x25
Concept: Octopath Traveler rep x25

Under 25

Boss: Ender Dragon x24
[Rerate] Crash Bandicoot x20
Giygas x20
Concept: Assist Trophies added in updates x20
Ring Fit Adventurer x20
Rival Pokémon Trainer x17
[Rerate] Rayman x15
Echo: Lord Fredrik (67e) x15
Echo: Dark Bowser (14e) x13
[Rerate] Skull Kid x12
[Rerate] Doomguy x10
[Rerate] Jin Kazama x10
[Rerate] Travis Touchdown x10
[Rerate] Paper Mario x10
Big Daddy (BioShock) x10
Terra Branford x8
Sparky (Clash Royale) x5
Concept: Overwatch character x5
Gordon Freeman x5
Black Shadow x5
Asha (Wonder Boy) x5
Nightmare (Soul Calibur) x5
[Rerate] Monster Hunter x5
[Rerate] Isaac x5
Alucard (Castlevania) x5
Concept: Darksiders rep x5
Urshifu x5
Chell x3
[Rerate] Andy x2
Taranza x1

The Blob oozes past Crypto and Ryu Hayabusa and ties with Toxtricity and Kazuma Kiryu for first place. Crypto warps past Hayabusa and takes fourth place. Freddy Fazbear passes X, Mii Costume: Hollow Knight, Ryo Hazuki and Hayabusa and ties with Crypto at fourth. Carmen Sandiego ties with Hayabusa for sixth, and X, Ryo and the Knight fall off the top seven.

Chun-Li kicks through the 50 nom mark.

Concept: Octopath Traveler rep reaches 25 noms.

Today's sole new nominee is a rerate of Paper Mario, with 10 noms.
 

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Noctis

Chance: 5%. First, we have 2 Square Enix Reps already, so a third one would for the most part would be expensive. Competition will win against Noctis for the roaster. And the chance of Noctis being the fifth fighter in the fighter's pass is a big 0, given that Final Fantasy is not well represented, there is a chance the fighter's spirit would be the only spirit getting in.

Want: 50%. However, a second final fantasy rep would give it more representation it deserves. Of course, Tifa or Chocobo would be possible second reps that would be a better fit, but either way, it's good, as long as they add Final Fantasy Spirits and soundtracks to the game, to give the franchise decent representation. As for Noctis, that character would be fun to play as.

Prediction: 2B: 5%

Noms: 3 for Giygas and 2 for Black Shadow
 
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Noctis

Chance - 0.05% - Final Fantasy seems to have a problem, given how we lost representation from the loss of the Mii costume compared for Chocobos from For. Given that, I don't think any other Final Fantasy characters are likely, and Noctis less so due to lack of fan demand. Outside of being ported to a Nintendo Console, a bear minimum to most, and being the most recent, that's all he has going for him.

Want - 35% - If we had to have another Final Fantasy character, I would prefer one of the classic ones like the Black Mage. I don't care much for RPGs anyways, even this one. I would rather have many other characters.


Predictions

2B - 3.45% - Who knows?


Nominations

De Blob X5
 

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Noctis

Chance: 5%
With Cloud being in Smash, it's hard to see Sakurai prioritizing another FF character when Square Enix has a lot of other popular candidates like Sora and Geno to name a few. Then again adding, another FF character like Noctis could be a way to finally give the series the amount of Smash content it deserves instead of just two songs and the lack of spirits that aren't Cloud. Even within his own series however, Noctis would have to compete with Sephiroth and Terra Branford (the latter of which was once brought up by Sakurai as a possible contender for a FF slot).

Want: Abstain
Haven't played FFXV so I won't comment. Like with Sora there are a lot of other SE characters I'd want first though.

Furthermore, Dissidia exists for multiple FF characters facing each other in a fighting game.
That's like saying Terry can't be in Smash since King of Fighters exists for multiple Fatal Fury characters facing each other in a fighting game along with other SNK characters. Cloud being in Smash as well as Noctis in Tekken shows that Dissidia doesn't matter when it comes to FF characters crossing over into other fighters.
 
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Noctis
Chance: 0.1%
Negotiating anything FF seems more trouble than it's worth at this point. It would probably be more appealing for Sakurai and the dev to go for someone from a different series if they still want to put in more Square characters. There are also more options for FF characters that Noctis would have to compete with.


Want: 0%
I'd prefer characters that would bring more than 2 songs and 1 fighter spirit with them. I'm planning to get into Final Fantasy soon but XV isn't on my list as I've heard some less than stellar things about that game. Also, Noctis doesn't do anything for me desing and playstyle wise.

2B: 15.35%
De Blob x5
 
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NOCTIS

Chance: 15%
Really heavy competition, with Sora and Lara Croft, I believe that only a miracle could put Noctis in.

Want: 100%
Loved Final Fantasy XV and I thought of a mechanic for him using the Taunt buttons to call for his friends, just like in the game. He could have a 2 level bar that would trigger a weaker and stronger version of the attacks of Prompto, Gladius and Ignis, each one summoned by a Taunt button direction when holding Down B.
 

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Noctis

Chance: 0%
Unless we get Noctis as a Cloud echo (like Ken to Ryu), he's not getting in since SE has so many reps to choose from that aren't from FF and now DQ. And as a DLC, echo fighters are probably a no-go.

Want: abstain
I have no personal attachment to the guy. That said, his moveset could be pretty swell, what with him teleporting à la Naruto's dad to his sword.

Predictions: 2B - 9%
Here's one such other SE rep. That said, her odds are hurt by SE already getting a rep, but it's a pretty massive company so who knows?

Nominations: Segata Saaanshirooooo x5
 
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Chance: 0%
There's no way we're getting another Final Fantasy character. Just look at Cloud's lack of content. Plus, there's still a bunch of franchises to choose from if we do get another SE character.
Want: 0%
As usual, I don't support newcomers from already represented third parties. I'd rather have something new.

2B prediction: 12.9%
Noms: Ryu Hayabusa x5
 

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Wait did Akira get disconfirmed?

Not only that, but the director of Astral Chain said here that he's a bit let down that Akira won't be playable (but still thankful for the spirit event).

I don't think I've seen a full on deconfirmation like this in a long time.
 
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Sasuke

Chance: 0%
Sorry, but I'm just not seeing it. Every single third-party franchise that has made it into Smash has only one original character, which puts Noctis in a terrible position. Not to mention, Square Enix has already received a new fighter in this DLC cycle, and we have yet to see a precedent for a third-party series getting a new fighter via DLC. Lastly, even if we do get another Square Enix character - there is just far too much competetion.

Want: 0%

I haven't played his game, but from what I've seen, he doesn't look too terribly interesting. Hard pass.

Predicting 2B to get around 18.33%.

Nominating Concept: Any Octopath Traveler rep x5.
 
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ITS HAPPENING!

 
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Hold on a bit, we're waiting on something.
For reasons I can't say yet, Noctis' day will end around tomorrow morning. I know you are all eager to rate something now so I ask that you all hold on for just a bit longer. You'll understand why I'm not ending the day now when tomorrow comes.
What are you two hiding? Colour me intrigued
 
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What are you two hiding? Colour me intrigued

I wanted to find something a bit more sentimental but this works.

So before I go on and start the new day, I just wanna address my absence. Basically starting in November, things got really tough irl for me. My mother struggles with alcoholism, and I told her if she relapsed again I wouldnt be home for Thanksgiving. She relapsed again. However, it was her relapse in December that really hit home. Going to put it in spoilers. Trigger warning just to be sure.

My mom relapsed on the day I was returning from college. I was worried about things and had to pacify things over the phone. My brother is on the spectrum and has PTSD. I wanted to ensure that he did not have a breakdown over this. He called me literally a half dozen times throughout the day to ensure him mom was fine. Around 5 pm I was about to leave and at a McDonalds parking lot sorting this out. He put me on the phone with my mom, clearly drunk. However, it is what happened next that was traumatic for me.

My brother had a PTSD episode due to this. He saw my mom drinking as a threat to his safety and survival. He attacked her while I was on the phone with her. He took an uber (he can't drive) to stay at my aunt's place. I called her and told her the details. She chewed him out in the morning and attacked her too. Since she had to go to the hospital for a broken wrist, the police knew (my state has mandatory reporters at the hospital). He is charged with aggravated assault. I don't know what is going to happen to him. He could plead insanity since he is mentally unwell (my parents have guardianship over him, his diagnoses, multiple evaluations over the years), but legally its a gray area. He could be made an example by the prosecution too. I do not know.

My parents both needed to be set straight by me. I told my dad flat out that I had literally dozens of offers of places to stay in Winter Break, and if he was going to make me feel like crap for staying I would leave. He is terrible with dealing with stress, is sarcastic as heck, either putting me down or making a tense atmosphere. I told my mom to get help. If she is not getting more help and keeps relapsing I am cutting her out of my life. She knows that I would, I did not go home for Thanksgiving. Both of them rely on me to be their therapist, but I do not care. I am sick of putting everything back together. To mediate this whole mess I have missed classes. I have missed homework. I have missed opportunities. I need to live my own life.

I also entered a depressive episode during all of this. On top of the family drama, I lost a friend at school. Don't worry they are fine. But they basically did not want to be friends anymore. Losing a friend that I considered close hurts a lot, and I basically was catatonic on some days. I would go to class, go to work, and then go to bed. It took me weeks to get over that. I hate to sound sour grapes, but tbh they were not a good friend the past couple of months, and that helped me get over it. But my depression did not go away. I fell behind on schoolwork. I got three grades as Incomplete until I turned in my backwork. I basically was a giant mess.

I was planning on coming back a few days later tbh. I wanted to get back to school and then come back to the thread. But the livestream gave me a bit of hope, enough to come back. I am thankful to all the people who have been supportive of me throughout this whole ordeal, who helped me get this far.

I apologize for disappearing. I have to shout out the RTC staff for holding down the fort. I plan on playing a more active role going forward again. I just hope y'all are not to dissappointed in me dissappearing.

With that out of the way, housekeeping stuff and the new day.

We will be doing a rerate schedule. Normally we take from the Chance scores and nominated stuff that seems relevant, but I want you guys to have more imput on this.

Today we are doing predictions for the 1/16 livestream. Predict which character/characters we are going to get. Whoever gets accurate predictions this time (gonna make this harder, ya can only predict up to 5 characters) gets 100 Noms. Without any big leaks I think this is fair. Also, put down who you want to see rerated in lieu of a prediction score for the next rating. For your prediction of the character/characters, please avoid one liners. For your nominations to rerate, I would like reasoning but names is kosher for this.
 
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Not sure if this is gonna double post but I am gonna post my predictions rn.

Dante: Call it a gut hunch but I am guessing Capcom right now. And I think Dante is a solid contender for that role. Yeah I know he was deconfirmed in like April but the Grant Kirkhope stuff made me really question that. I could see it being a NDA and denying it at the time. That tweet stuff also has me colored intrigued. I just have a gut hunch Dante will be FP5.

Doomguy and Geno: Mii costume stuff, thinking these will be in Postpass. I can see Geno coming first as a "bonus" and Doomguy starting Season 2. The mii costume leak just seems very...suspiciously hard to fake. I feel confident in this one.

RERATES
Travis Touchdown
Phoenix Wright
Crash
 
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It's good to see you back Phantom. Sorry to hear what you went through and I hope things get better for you.

1/16 Presentation Predictions

Here are my top 5 candidates to be announced tomorrow (or later today, etc. depending on your time zone):
  • Doom Slayer
    • Doom is one of the most popular FPS series and is often considered the grandfather of the FPS genre. While Wolfenstein 3D was the first game to hit the nail with the gameplay, Doom was the game that popularized the FPS genre. While Doom and FPS games aren't popular in Japan, Doom is a big series in the West and a FPS rep is overdue at this point. Bethesda has been buddy-buddy recently with Nintendo and has brought most of their recent big games like Doom, Doom Eternal, and Wolfenstein 2 over to the Switch. In fact, Skyrim was one of the first games to be shown off in the Switch's first trailer. It's clear that Bethesda and Nintendo have a very good relationship, and Bethesda has even said that they have talked with Nintendo about Smash.
    • There is a lot of evidence pointing toward Doom Slayer. All his major games have/are coming to the Switch. There is also the CacoMallow leak which has not been disproven yet. And finally, in the picture of the announcement tweet, people have noticed there is brown and dark green surrounding Sakurai, since they must have took that picture of Sakurai while filming the presentation. Who is heavily associated with both brown and green? Doom Slayer
  • Geno
    • Geno is cited as one of the most likely characters right now. He has a bunch of things going for him. The two songs which were taken down by Nintendo (the same thing happened with Sans). CacoMallow leak. The Mii costume leak which predicted some Mii costumes like Goemon and Team Rocket Grunt. It has Mallow on it, which supports CacoMallow, and it doesn't have Geno. Finally, he is one of the last long-term requested characters after K. Rool, Ridley, and Banjo. His chances are looking greater than ever.
  • Arle Nadja
    • Papagenos has made some recent videos highlighting a mountain of evidence building a case for Arle. First, Puyo Puyo being the first Japanese game to appear on the SNES online service. What's strange is that the game originally came to the U.S in the form of Kirby's Avalanche, yet Puyo Puyo was the game picked. It's clear that Sega has been pushing Puyo Puyo in the West. In addition, Arle fits Color Theory which has (funny enough) been correct so far and she fits Daisy Theory (female with orange hair). Finally, there have been pictures that Sakurai has been posting on Twitter and one of them showed a miniature Isabelle behind Marth's back. That looks like a signature picture of Arle with Carbuncle on her back, and Arle's clothes in that picture look very similar to Marth's clothes. Go see Papagenos' recent videos for more info because there is so much info that it's hard to remember everything.
  • Dante
    • One of Capcom's most requested and feasible characters. Sure, he's been "deconfirmed", but so was Banjo because NDA is a thing. There was an announcement for three days to look out for DMC information, and the 16th was one of them. Additionally, a fellow DMC voice actor could have possibly leaked Dante, though it's possible it could have been a misunderstanding. And of course the entire DMC trilogy is now (or coming to) Switch.
  • Dovahkiin
    • Another Bethesda character. While CacoMallow leak implies Doom Slayer, it's possible that Dragonborn could actually be the playable rep and there could just be Mii costumes from other Bethesda games. It's very well possible, especially since Skyrim did pretty well in Japan. It sold well and was even the first American game to get a perfect 40/40 on Famitsu. Despite Skyrim being 9 years old, it's still being talked about to this day which says a lot. In addition, The Elder Scrolls is a very big series that helped popularized the open-world genre.
Characters I want to see rerated (you read my mind Phantom):
Travis Touchdown
Phoenix Wright
Crash Bandicoot
 
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Alright, my five predictions:

Dante: Most speaked of them all. It's a rather glaring coincidence that we're getting DMC3 info in the same day as this new Smash stream, and the timing is just so convenient it's baffling.

Travis: Zippo's statements are kind of dead, but assuming there's still something important about them, then Travis fits the "Bayonetta 2.0" bill as is. Nintendo wanted him back, Strikes Again was temporarily exclusive and currently 3 will be Switch-only.

Arle: It all boils down to this one 4chan post (WARNING: explicit language inside): https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/492388960/#492394075
As much as skeptics love to just call everything a "lucky guess", I believe that it's not that easy to predict things like the hour the post will be made. Calling the showcase "a Direct" isn't really that harmful either. After all, that one leak from E3 2018 said stages would have "Final Destination and Omega forms", so typos or incorrect ways to address aren't impossible.

Heihachi: Don't see him as very likely, but aside from Geno, the Bandai-Namco costumes are the most glaring of all the absent past DLC. I feel like someone will eventually bring them back and Heihachi is one of the best candidates for it.

Leon: I can't help but feel like there's a small chance that the "spirits deconfirm" stigma will be broken tomorrow. Can't see Geno pulling that off simply because I don't find him to be as groundbreaking as any RE character.

As for nominations on what should be re-rated, I only have one concept, well, two actually, but they're more or less the same, those being:

All DLC will be third-party/First-party characters as DLC: I consider them one because they approach the same topic. that being the main trait for all future characters. Back in January last year, the former got the highest rates, while the latter went even further a few months ago. Now though, that topic is kind of shaky, as the recent Astral Chain spirits showed us that these events can appear at any time to shot-down characters, and that was one of the main arguments for the likelihood of first-parties. Perhaps tomorrow will decide the fate of these two concepts (even though I don't count on it), but I want to be optimistic and think there'll be a chance to discuss them one last time.
 
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I should probably be studying right but heck it

For DLC5
Doomslayer: Not so much due to Mii costume leak but more so Sakurai-outline theory. He still has alot if legs to stand on, Bethesda speaking with Nintendo about Smash, Sakurai calling the grandfather of FPS's, Slayer appealing to a major crowd, etc. Doom is not popular in Japan however so I'm not 100% on him or anybody but that statement Sakurai made in Terry's presentation should probably also apply to his home country.

Hollow Knight: Admittedly, this one doesn't have much ground to stand on and is more of a gut feeling. I really feel like Nintendo would entertain the thought of an Indie character and to me it seems like they're quite fond of HK with how successful it has been lately. Certainly much more popular than the average Nindie. It really comes down to if Sakurai played the game and is big enough of a fan to go through with it. After all, Hollow Knight does have a Japanese release and Sakurai is quite the gamer. Also, big leakers never deconfirmed indies if that means anything.

For post pass as a tease at the end of the presentation:
Geno: Only confident in this one if 5 is Doomslayer and the leaked Mii costumes are real.
Bandana Dee: Because he just has remained that popular, especially in Japan.
Waluigi: Because he'd blow up the internet and greatly increase the hype for post pass.

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Bandana Waddle Dee (if not revealed)
Rayman
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My character prediction, because nobody is expecting her, is going to be
Hatsune Miku
She's popular and well-known in both Japan and overseas, and would expand Smash in a way I think Sakurai wants to do. She's an out-there pick, but I think Nintendo would choose her because of how crazy the response to her would be. I'm expecting something akin to Cloud in Smash 4.
For music, I'm predicting she'll actually have a little bit less than Terry came with, maybe off by 5-7 songs.
Mii Costumes will probably be a mix of Vocaloids and returning past costumes.
I dont expect any post-pass info.
Edit: Throwing in Doomguy as a new expected reveal.
 
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It's great to have you back TCT~Phantom TCT~Phantom . I'd like to give a giant thanks to Megadoomer Megadoomer who changed the title of the thread each day during TCT's absence since I don't have mod powers.

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Direct predictions

I'm predicting we'll get one of the following characters:
  • Arle Nadja
    • There's been a lot of talk recently that it could be her and IIRC the director of the Puyo Puyo series retweeted the Direct announcement. Puyo Puyo has been growing a lot recently so I can see her being a sleeper pick a lot of people may have slept on similar to Terry.
  • Dante
    • Another instance of a character getting a bunch of news recently (like a DMC3 Switch announcement tomorrow). His series is massively popular while Dante is one of the frontrunners for another Capcom character. There is also a chance the previous comments said many months back about Dante not being in Smash could have been wrong/misleading.
  • Doomguy
    • Maybe it's the brown background on that Direct announcement post but for some reason I think it could actually be him. He's definitely got the history and appreciation from Sakurai (who praised John Carmack in the past) so it could always happen.
  • Dovahkiin
  • 2B
    • Probably the least likely of all these characters for FP5 since I recall the NieR director saying there wouldn't be NieR content in Smash around the end of 2018. That said though, a part of me thinks she could actually get in since Sakurai has praised NieR: Automata before.
Some other Direct predictions:
  • If Arle isn't the character I think she's almost guaranteed as a mii costume tomorrow considering the out of nowhere retweet from the Puyo Puyo director.
  • I think we will definitely get a mii costume that makes people go "HOLY CRAP" like the Sans one.
  • I don't think we'll get a post-pass character reveal. At best I just see Sakurai explaining how the post-pass content will work.
For characters that I think would be worth rerating:
  • Travis Touchdown
  • Rex
  • Concept: An Assist Trophy becomes a playable character
 
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Alright here are my predictions for the upcoming presentation.

Dante: I find him as the most likely Capcom rep left. The DMC twitter account left dates to watch out for, and one of them turned out to be the same date as the Smash presentation. There's also the case of V's voice actor slipping up and saying Dante is in Smash. With all these put together I believe Dante is the most likely character to be FP5.

Professor Layton: Level-5 has not gotten content in Smash yet despite them being cooperative with Nintendo for over a decade. Analyzing the outline in Sakurai's thumbnail leaves a tint of brown in it. This might imply the character has brown color in their scheme or the background is simply brown, this does benefit Layton even though it doesn't explicitly say it's him. Either way Layton is a sleeper pick that could be our next fighter.

Dragonborn: It's no secret that Skyrim has been used heavily to promote the Switch. The Elder Scrolls is a very big series with a lot of legacy to it. There is that old interview back in 2018 where Bethesda said they talked to Nintendo about Smash. I believe Dragonborn could be the character they chose if these talks actually led to something. Doomguy's fan popularity didn't become big until way after the fighters pass was decided, which is why I believe Nintendo and Sakruai could've chosen Dragonborn instead.

Ryu Hayabusa: Koei Tecmo is another company that has been buddy buddy with Nintendo as well. This time however they do have content in Smash in the form of a Fatal Frame assist trophy, yet no playable character. Ryu Hayabusa ticks all the check boxes that makes him a great Smash character. He's an NES classic. He represents a new company. He would bring a fun moveset. He's basically a character that I very well could see make it as DLC.

Kratos: Because I'm insane and I must throw in a curveball. Okay first of all, Sony doesn't view Nintendo with the same rivalry as they used to before. They have said once that their demographics are different and they are more worried about Microsoft instead. The old suits that had bad blood between each other retired and left both companies, the new generation taking control of Nintendo and Sony don't view each other with the same animosity as their previous generation. Second, a Playstation team was sent to a Smash Bros Ultimate tournament in Japan that had companies compete with each other, I don't think I need to explain how insane this is. Sony sent a team to compete in a tournament of another console competitor. This shows they may be able to be negotiated if Nintendo ever approaches them for a character. And with the inclusion of Microsoft they're pretty much the biggest video game company not involved with Smash.


Other Predictions:
- I believe we'll get an explanation for how the future DLC will work and what we should expect.
- Arle and Viewtiful Joe Mii costumes


As for nominations, I only have one:
Waluigi: This is a big elephant that needs to be addressed. We have new DLC announced yet the question of Waluigi still remains. This is the only character that got deconfirmed which generated so much outrage that a Nintendo representative (Reggie) had to address it and say they'll tell Sakurai about it. If new DLC is on the way that hasn't been planned with the base game, then the possibility of Waluigi being promoted to a playable character exists.
 
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My predictions

1. Adeleine. First of all, she is not represented at all in smash, not even as a spirit or Mii costume. Second, she would totally fit for a Kirby rep and a cartoony character rep, which we both need. Another thing is how popular Kirby: Star Allies is, which gives Adeleine more of a chance to appear.

2. Edelgard. Lets face it, a Fire Emblem: Three Houses rep is inevitable. And I choose Edelgard, due to her axe abilities giving her uniqueness to the cast of characters. Plus the popularity of Three House gives her a boost of a chance of getting in.

3. Sylux or Porky. We need another villain In the roaster. Porky would help represent the Mother Franchise, by giving it an antagonist to make things interesting. Metroid got a huge boost in representation in Ultimate, so Sylux could help it out even further. The again, who knows.

4. Sword or Shield Rep. Earlier there was complaining about this game not having every Pokémon in the game, but thanks to DLC, this would give people a second chance in enjoying Sword or Shield. Since I've played Shield, I have a few suggestions, but my main one is Frosmoth as we need a Bug Type and Ice Type Pokémon in the roaster. There are other suggestions, but I'll leave it at that.

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Fawful
Ray-Man
Porky (in case he does not get in)
 
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Predictions:
1. Dante
Even though he's been DC'ed a few times in the past, the recent posts on Twitter seem to hint towards a potential Smash inclusion. Also Grant Kirkhope did something similar with Banjo before he got in.

2. Doomslayer
He's also been getting mentioned a lot recently, and the Cacodemon/Mallow leak further supports his inclusion. He's also a great choice to represent the FPS genre in Smash, as he's known as the founding father of FPS games.

3. Fire Emblem Three Houses rep/Gen 8 Pokémon
Both of these games have been very popular recently, and would make sense for a post pass inclusion, if we get one after FP5's reveal. There's also a lot of moveset potential coming from the characters in these games.

4. Arle Nadja
Another character whose name has been recently thrown around a lot in the past few days. The pic of the day tweets from Sakurai have stirred up a lot of speculation, as well as Puyo Puyo's director retweeting the direct announcement. She is my sleeper pick, though I wouldn't be super excited for her inclusion tbh.

5. Crash Bandicoot
This one is my long shot pick, but I have a gut feeling he could happen. He makes so much sense to be the final character, as Crash is a legendary icon of the 90's console wars. Since he is now owned by Activision (who gets along well with Nintendo), I could see Crash making it in as the one character that makes the internet explode. He's also backed up with tons of fan support, and even some developers of the N. Sane Trilogy. Make it happen Sakurai!

Rerates:
Crash (if he doesn't make it)
Waluigi (meme pick)
Ryu Hayabusa (He's another character that would've made the list if Arle wasn't the talk of the town recently.)

Noms: Toxtricity x15

My character prediction, because nobody is expecting her, is going to be
Hatsune Miku
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Hatsune Miku is NOT a video game character.

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100 noms to the most accurate guess? Now that's interesting.

1 Dante. To me, he's probably the most likely Capcom character. He's stylish, cool and popular. The date is also kinda interesting. Would make cool crossover material with Bayonetta

2 Byleth. I'd so prefer Edelgard or Dimitri (or all 3 lords in one) but I must admit I think Byleth is more likely, he's the main character after all. But also really boring. Obviously the monastery would be his stage though

3. Travis Touchdown. New game and such, also the director has wanted it for years and is apparently good friends with Sakurai. Now one I'm interested in though

4. Fudge it, I'm giving Edelgard her own spot. I'd still prefer Dimitri, but she's cool too. I think Three Houses has a real shot, but I also don't give a shot about third parties.

5. I'll throw a less popular pick in, Agumon, or Digimon in general. We haven't had a Namco character since Pac-Man and that digimon and Pokemon crossover potential would be great, maybe he could digivolve throughout battle. His stage would likely feature a bunch digimon as hazards which would be used in trailer to help capture that Digimon vs Pokemon feel better.


Honourable mentions

Professor Layton
KosMos
Jibanyan
Heihachi
Crash
Doom

Can we still nominate today?
Carmen Sandiego x5

Who do I want rerated?

Assist promotions
Spirit promotions
Dante if not revealed


Also welcome back TCT. I'm sorry all that had to happen to you. Just make sure your own health comes first. This is just a forum thread. Good luck with everything
 
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