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Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

UtopianPoyzin

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At noon. Day was slow so I extended.
Oh... that's fine... I was planning on writing a review for Linkle, but it was a slow day yesterday, I'll agree. Still though, anytime that I can add nominations and get things pass 100 is what I'm looking for. I can see the reasoning for a day extension though. There's a lot of topics to get done.
 
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WaddleMatt

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Metroidvania Adventure Mode:

Chance - 40%

It is either this or a linear set of levels, I think having a world to explore with bosses like Great Cave Offensive makes sense since this is well, Sakurai's game. However we know too little about Spirits for me to be confident in this.

Want - 80%

This just seems like a really fun idea encompassing multiple franchises into one world however if it is anything like the Great Maze I might get a bit lost... Also from the little bit of Metroid and Castlevania I have played I can say I enjoy those classics.

Nominations: Rhythm Girl x5
 

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Linkle

Chance: 1%
From having licensing issues, to having a competitor in Skull Kid, Linkle might be forgotten this time around. I also don't see her being a Link echo, as her abilities in HW don't sync up to Link's in that game.

Want: 50%
Could take her, could leave her. I honestly don't have strong opinions one way or the other, though the fact that she'd be a fourth Link in a way does sour me to her slightly, but again, she didn't play like Link at all in HW, so it's meh, I guess.
 

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Linkle

Chance: .05%
I don't have a high expectation for the number of newcomers left regardless, but Linkle has a few more problems than even the average newcomer. Namely, I don't know whether or not she's owned by Nintendo, she's from a spinoff, she's not even particularly important in said spinoff when compared to, say, Impa, and she's facing a ton of competition from other Zelda characters.

Want: 5%
Eh.

Nominations: Historical Character x5
 

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Link but as a Girl:

Chance: 10% - I'm afraid there won't be any Zelda newcomers due to how it seems Sakurai sees the Triforce-holders as enough, and if we do get newcomers I'd expect Skull Kid, Impa, or Tingle instead. I'm just giving a 10% because it's not impossible, but I just don't see it anywhere near likely, though I suppose she'd be another Triforce-holder(?)

Want: Abstain - I haven't played Hyrule Warriors yet, though I have read about and seen Linkle using a crossbow and such, so it could probably be a cool addition. I don't really care one way or the other.

Nominations:

Steve? x3
Porky x2
 

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Linkle

Chance: 0%
I doubt they'd introduce a Zelda character whose ownership may be partially held by an outside company. She's basically a Geno situation but without the demand. That and the usual VergeBox stuff.

Want: Abstain

Merric x5
 

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Kyo Kusanagi x200
Balloon Fighter x192
Concept: More than five unique newcomers (excl. Ridley/Daisy/Inkling) x190
Dovahkiin x190
Papyrus x185
Tsubasa Oribe x160
Concept: All-Star Versus x158

200 - 151

Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x155
Fire Emblem Three Houses Protagonist x155
Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x151

150 - 101

Item: Beast Ball x150
Edelgard x150
Concept: Punch Out Newcomer x145
Black Knight as a boss character x145
Susie Haltmann x139
Barbara the Bat x132
Project Zero/Fatal Frame Protagonist x132
Stage: Poke Floats x130
2B x126
Guzma (Pokémon) x120
Daroach x120
Zeraora (Pokemon) x118
Klonoa x117
Sans as a boss character x117
Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia) x115
Concept: Pikmin Newcomer x115
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x114
Gooey x113
Raiden (Metal Gear) x110
Merric (Fire Emblem) x110
Xurkitree (Pokémon) x108
Tora & Poppi x102
Slime x101

100 - 51

The Prince (Katamari) x100
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x96
Viewtiful Joe x95
Concept: Cross series Echoes x95
Rhythm Girl x95
Concept: Only 4-6 newcomers for base roster x90
Concept: Character alternate costume DLC x90
Saki Amamiya x90
Silvally x86
Chorus Kids x77
Yu Narakumi x76
Frank West x75
Veronica x73
Concept: Historical Character x70
9-Volt x68
Item: Breidablik x65
Toon Zelda x65
Earthworm Jim x64
Concept: Any Minecraft representation x64
Endou Mamoru x62
[Rerate] Steve? x60
Concept: Shin Megami Tensei Character x56
Leo (Fire Emblem) x55
Concept: Wars Characters x53
Takumi (Fire Emblem) x51

50 - 25

Concept: DLC character pass x50
Joker (Persona) x49
[Rerate] Spyro x45
[Rerate] Sora x45
Donbe and Hikari (Shin Onigashima) x44
Concept: Unique newcomer with low support (less than 20 supporters on Smashboards) x40
Concept: Xenoblade newcomer x40
Stage: Melemele Island x40
Concept: Break the Targets & Board the Platforms stage builder x40
Adeleine x39
Quote x38
Stage: Ultra Space x35
Assist Trophy: Chun-Li x35
Box Theory x34
Dixie Kong & Kiddy Kong x25
Blacephalon (Pokemon) x25
Master Chief x25

Under 25

Blog Theory x24
Concept: Unique puzzle game rep x22
[Rerate] Concept: Zelda newcomer x20
Kat & Ana x20
Stage: Yoshi’s Crafted World x20
[Rerate] Gengar x20
Sub-Zero x17
Concept: Modern Kirby Stage (Post Kirby Air Ride) x15
Concept: Custom Moves return x15
Concept: Custom Alternate Colors x15
Alexandra Roivas x15
[Rerate] Cranky Kong x15
Big Boss x15
[Rerate] Excitebiker x11
Ryuhi (Flying Dragon) x10
Metal Sonic x10
Dr. Lobe (Big Brain Academy) x10
Cross (Xenoblade Chronicles X) x10
Break the Targets x10
Protector (Etrian Odyssey) x10
Concept: Dragon Quest content x10
Bub & Bob x10
Conker x10
Concept: Danganronpa music x10
[Rerate] Porky Minch x9
Volleyball Girl (NES Volleyball) x8
Stage Builder x8
Zeke (Xenoblade 2) x6
Stage: Gyromite Stage x5
Nia (Hyrule Warriors) x5
Concept: Valve Newcomer x5
Stage: SR388 x5
Concept: Playable Indie Character x5
Blaze the Cat x5
Alm x5
[Rerate] Octoling x5
Yandere Chan (Yandere Simulator) x5
Concept: Team Rocket as a Pokémon Trainer Echo x5
Cooking Mama x5
Playable Master Hand x5
Pam (Stardew Valley) x5
Captain Syrup x5
Concept: Return of Palutena’s Guidance/Codec Calls x5
Concept: Free DLC characters x5
Jin (Xenoblade) x5
Concept: Assist Trophy DLC x5
[Rerate] Black Shadow x5
Doshin the Giant x5
Stage: Mute City Melee x5
[Rerate] Lloyd Irving x5
[Rerate] Ryu Hayabusa x5
Bartz Klauser x5
Stage: Tetris x5
Elite Beat Agents x5
Erdrick x5
King Hippo x4
[Rerate] Ayumi Tachibana x4
Concept: New Yoshi item x4
Black Mage x4
Stanley the Bugman x3
[Rerate] Ninten x3
Creeper x3
Concept: WarioWare newcomer x2
Concept: F-Zero newcomer x2
Assist Trophy: Creeper x2
Diskun x1
Item: Wumpa Fruit x1
Birdo x1
Goomba x1

Kyo Kusanagi passes Balloon Fighter and More than five unique newcomers to become number one, also reaching 200 noms.

Merric and Slime cross 100 nominations.
 

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Waifu fan material
Chance: 0%
Want: 25%

At this point, she's basically disconfirmed for the base roster, with her only *small* chance being DLC. She wouldn't be a semiclone or echo of Link because they have different movesets, but come on... we already have 3 LINKS! Instead of rambling on about her having no chance, I'm going to show a very well made Rate Their Chances video from Billybae10K Billybae10K that explains why Linkle will not make the base roster.
Go to 12:52 for Linkle.

Predictions: Louie 0%

Nominations: Xurkitree x5
 
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Chance: 0%
Want: -∞% (realistically: 0%)

She's basically another Geno case, tho it seems Nintendo own the rights of her and the other HW OCs as well. Either way, I don't see her getting in, as she has yet to reappear in a new game which isn't an umpteenth port.

And here comes the part where I'm not gonna be tender with her...

I hate her.
I hate, despise, disrelish, abominate, loathe, abhor, execrate, DETEST her and all the other Herpes Warriors OCs, Linkle in particular.
Some of the users around here already know what I think of what the Zelda franchise has become these last years since Skyward Sword, but for the newcomers:
This herpes of a game has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me, as I was going to give a chance to a series I was a big fan of after how gigantic of a disappointment Skyward Sword was.
But then, the first trailer of this game alone backstabbed me as ever, with a spin-off game made for those fans, those never-shutting-up fans who kept insisting Nintendo to make this utter BS timeline coming true, to make a realistically-looking Zelda game, to put voice acting in Zelda games, and, above all, to make a female counterpart to Link.
And after that, this series started to get overmilked ad nauseam, from remakes to ports to pointless HD remasters to shovelwares to Breath of the Wild.
And since this day, I categorically refuse to play to any new Zelda game released after this one, as I don't want to take sides of this lunatic fanbase and the influence it succeeded to have on Nintendo.
And I honestly fear that, in a near future, Zelda will become to video games what Star Wars is currently becoming to movies.
Not quality-wise, oh no, but as I said above, quantity-wise, to the point it will alienate people's mind in order to demand for new Zelda games over and over again, until Nintendo will focus only on it and put away all their other ones, even Mario.
But going back to Lana, if she ever get added to Smash Switch, this might be sufficient enough to prevent me to get the game and to stay on Smash 4, unless there's one or many of my requested characters in.
Take what I said on what I think of Lana above, multiply it infinitely, and you basically get what I think of Linkle.


Noms: Break the Targets & Board the Platforms stage builder x5
 

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She's basically another Geno case, tho it seems Nintendo own the rights of her and the other HW OCs as well. Either way, I don't see her getting in, as she has yet to reappear in a new game which isn't an umpteenth port.

And here comes the part where I'm not gonna be tender with her...

I hate her.
I hate, despise, disrelish, abominate, loathe, abhor, execrate, DETEST her and all the other Herpes Warriors OCs, Linkle in particular.
Some of the users around here already know what I think of what the Zelda franchise has become these last years since Skyward Sword, but for the newcomers:
This herpes of a game has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me, as I was going to give a chance to a series I was a big fan of after how gigantic of a disappointment Skyward Sword was.
But then, the first trailer of this game alone backstabbed me as ever, with a spin-off game made for those fans, those never-shutting-up fans who kept insisting Nintendo to make this utter BS timeline coming true, to make a realistically-looking Zelda game, to put voice acting in Zelda games, and, above all, to make a female counterpart to Link.
And after that, this series started to get overmilked ad nauseam, from remakes to ports to pointless HD remasters to shovelwares to Breath of the Wild.
And since this day, I categorically refuse to play to any new Zelda game released after this one, as I don't want to take sides of this lunatic fanbase and the influence it succeeded to have on Nintendo.
And I honestly fear that, in a near future, Zelda will become to video games what Star Wars is currently becoming to movies.
Not quality-wise, oh no, but as I said above, quantity-wise, to the point it will alienate people's mind in order to demand for new Zelda games over and over again, until Nintendo will focus only on it and put away all their other ones, even Mario.
But going back to Lana, if she ever get added to Smash Switch, this might be sufficient enough to prevent me to get the game and to stay on Smash 4, unless there's one or many of my requested characters in.

Take what I said on what I think of Lana above, multiply it infinitely, and you basically get what I think of Linkle.
Whoa dude, chill out... we get you hate this character but that might be taking it a little too far...
 
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Kotor

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Linkle

Chance: 5%
Want: 75%

Yeah well the Rulebook of Assumptions dictates that One-shot Zelda characters can't be playable. Spinoff appearances don't count. Linkle being both a one-shot and spinoff means she's got no chance.

Outside of that, I enjoy Hyrule Warriors. Linkle is a fun character to play in that game. Although my preferences of the Hyrule Warriors OCs are Lana and Cia, I wouldn't object to Linkle's inclusion. I'd like for the Hyrule Warriors costumes be added for the Zelda characters in Ultimate. We'll see how that rolls out in the future.

Black Knight as a boss character x5
 
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Linkle could represent Hyrule Warriors without any problem.

But i fear that she will turn as the Geno of the Zelda franchise, and get locked as a Koei Tecmo rep.
 

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Linkle could represent Hyrule Warriors without any problem.

But i fear that she will turn as the Geno of the Zelda franchise, and get locked as a Koei Tecmo rep.
From what I can recall, Nintendo is the owner of the character. Or at least, I recall Aonuma saying that they would keep her mind for future main series installments if she was popular enough, meaning they likly have full control of the character. I forget where I got that from though.
Linkle:
0% Chance
She was made post ballot, so I have little hope for her.
50% Want
I have never played the games she appeared in, but I like her character and skill set.
 

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Linkle

Chance: 0% Base, 0.1% DLC
We already have 3 Links, and she's just some bonus from Hyrule Warriors who doesn't even have her own game. I don't see her happening at base. Her only chance is an alternate costume for Young Link, and even then the chances for that are very low.
Want: 0%
Yeah, no thanks. Give me a more interesting and cool character from this series instead, please.

Nominations
Character alternate costume DLC x5
 

GoodGrief741

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Linkette

Chance: 0.5%

Nintendo owns her, but she debuted after the cutoff date. Not by too much, but it still diminishes her chances. Beyond that, Hyrule Warriors is a spin-off musou, so it’s probably low in the spectrum of priorities for Sakurai (speaking generously). She’s also a Tecmo Koei creation, which might hurt her chances.

None of this is a death sentence, but unless she gains a ton of support she’ll never be in Smash.

Want: 50%
Meh, wouldn’t mind her but I wouldn’t care. Only played Vanilla Hyrule Warriors, so I never got to know her.

Louie prediction: 9%

Nominations: SakiX5
 

Al-kīmiyā'

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Linkle want: 0% (10-10*)

Linkle as a character has grown on me. Having two crossbows could make for a slightly different moveset than other projectile fighters. Being a Zelda character means she would really cut down the chances of getting Skull Kid, though, so I should probably penalize her even more than non-Zelda characters.

Nominations:

Merric x5

* Indicates percentage penalty for potentially taking a slot from most wanted characters
 

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Linkle:

Chance: 1% (And that includes the Chance for DLC)

Pros:
She has Link in her Name and Sakurai seems to like such Characters. Seems like the HW OC´s are owned by Nintendo and HW was a decent success for a Spin Off. With double crossbows she could be rather unique.

Cons:
Well, she is probably one of the least likely first Party Characters. HW is a Spin off, likely was too late for the Base Roster, has tons of TloZ Competition and isn´t even the most likely HW OC candidate (I´d say).


Want: 90%
At this Point I just really want another TloZ Fighter (the Franchise really deserves it, it´s by far Nintendo´s third biggest Franchise (well except for the "Wii series", it still has the highest rated game on Metacritics and won the latest GOTY Award; and yet there are only kinda 3/4 different Characters from TloZ), as Long as it isn´t another Link, Zelda or Ganon/Dorf. Echos would be fine too, but I´d prefer an unique Newcomer. Now, I don´t see Linkle as a Link, her design, backstory, personality and abilities/weapon are all different from Link. Honestly, there are some TloZ Characters Closer to Link than Linkle. She was planned as a female Link or Link´s Sister, but she certainly isn´t anymore.
Personally, I really like any Kind of fast dual weapons and we barely have that in Smash (hoping for someone like Elma, Weavile, Monster Hunter with Dual Blades etc.). Furthermore, I can really relate to her horrible sense of direction. You could probably drive me 5 minutes away from home and I wouldn´t find back without Google Maps and 40 minutes of Walking the wrong way.
Though there are multiple TloZ characters I prefer over Linkle, such as Skull Kid, Midna and Lana.

BTW: Maybe she has a better Chance in a future Smash, it could be, that she makes it into the main TloZ games at some Point:
"I had a chance to give feedback on Linkle during development, but the satisfying action of using a crossbow, which we developed for the spin-off title Link's Crossbow Training, was implemented this time completely by Koei Tecmo. It may feel a little different from other titles in the franchise, but she doesn't feel out of place at all in the world of the Zelda games. I'm sure we will keep her in mind when thinking about future titles." —Eiji Aonuma (https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/08/hyrule-warrior-the-story-of-how-linkle-became-a-star)
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Nomination:

Slime: 5x
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LINK IN THE GERUDO SET

Yeah... not sure how I feel about this one. It is literally just a rule 63 version of Link made only for a spinoff of the Legend of Zelda, put into place only to appease the fans. There are many many more interesting choices than her to be a LoZ rep. Just because "she has double crossbows" doesn't mean we need 4 Links with one of them being a spinoff gender-bend. No thank you...

Want: 0%

Oh yeah, did you all know that Smash Bros Ultimate is a thing? Yeah, and it releases in 50 DAYS. I personally thought that we might get maybe 2 more announcements from Nintendo with character reveals, but at this rate, it'll probably be only one announcement. My point that I'm trying to get to is that we are running out of time for newcomers in general. There's always DLC, but that isn't what is being rated in the RTC, unless explicitly stated " D L C ". There are too many more popular characters that are up for grabs for a roster spot, and the only character that Nintendo has implemented into multiple games consistently (besides Skull Kid) is Impa, who I feel will be our final spot (with Skull Kid being a boss, maybe. Or a character, but I wouldn't know.) Hyrule Warriors, not even developed by Nintendo, most definitely doesn't have that high of a priority in Nintendo's mind. And besides, above all else, Lana would come first, even though Lana is practically impossible anyway (and I don't want her either.) To cut to the chase...

Chance: 0%

Nominations: Quote x5
 

Sid-cada

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Linkle

Chance - 0.05% - She's like Geno, except even less popular. She's partially owned by a third party (I think?), and she's a niche pick from a series with major competition. I don't see her, unless they ignore the double crossbows in favor of an echo, and who wants that?

Want - 10% - Can I have Vaati instead? Or maybe Tetrra? They're like the only Zelda characters that interest me.

Nominations

Slime X5
 

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Linkle:

Chance: 10%
She's not my favorite pick from Hyrule Warriors (that would be Ganondorf's HW design), but Hyrule Warriors was a huge hit and having some representation from it would be amazing. I think Linkle's a pretty likely option if more aesthetic costume options become a thing. She wouldn't be using her signature crossbows and would literally just be Link, but with a Linkle skin, similar to M/F Robin/Corrin/WFT/Villager.

Want: 80%
I'd be happy with her dual-crossbow- and kick-focused fighting style in Smash. Hyrule Warriors created some pretty amazing attack animations for the entire Zelda cast and it is a shame that none of it has been seen in Smash. Costume-Linkle is also acceptable and I just want more cosmetic options in Smash to ensure a long and healthy lifespan for the game.

*censored*
She's basically another Geno case, tho it seems Nintendo own the rights of her and the other HW OCs as well. Either way, I don't see her getting in, as she has yet to reappear in a new game which isn't an umpteenth port.

And here comes the part where I'm not gonna be tender with her...

I hate her.
I hate, despise, disrelish, abominate, loathe, abhor, execrate, DETEST her and all the other Herpes Warriors OCs, Linkle in particular.
Some of the users around here already know what I think of what the Zelda franchise has become these last years since Skyward Sword, but for the newcomers:
This herpes of a game has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me, as I was going to give a chance to a series I was a big fan of after how gigantic of a disappointment Skyward Sword was.
But then, the first trailer of this game alone backstabbed me as ever, with a spin-off game made for those fans, those never-shutting-up fans who kept insisting Nintendo to make this utter BS timeline coming true, to make a realistically-looking Zelda game, to put voice acting in Zelda games, and, above all, to make a female counterpart to Link.
And after that, this series started to get overmilked ad nauseam, from remakes to ports to pointless HD remasters to shovelwares to Breath of the Wild.
And since this day, I categorically refuse to play to any new Zelda game released after this one, as I don't want to take sides of this lunatic fanbase and the influence it succeeded to have on Nintendo.
And I honestly fear that, in a near future, Zelda will become to video games what Star Wars is currently becoming to movies.
Not quality-wise, oh no, but as I said above, quantity-wise, to the point it will alienate people's mind in order to demand for new Zelda games over and over again, until Nintendo will focus only on it and put away all their other ones, even Mario.
But going back to Lana, if she ever get added to Smash Switch, this might be sufficient enough to prevent me to get the game and to stay on Smash 4, unless there's one or many of my requested characters in.

Whoa dude, chill out... we get you hate this character but that might be taking it a little too far...
Honestly, you're doing better than me. I read the rant and he's so incoherent, I honestly can't tell WHY he dislikes the character so much...

...because HW directly references the Official Zelda Timeline? Is that why?

NOMS: Character Costume DLC
 

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Linkle

Chance: 1%
Not too requested and only appeared in a spin-off game. She also has a ton of competition with other Zelda reps like Skull Kid and Impa. Her only chance would be as a Link echo but they’d have to go through a ton of liberties to make that work since she mainly uses crossbows.

Want: 20%
I wouldn't mind her too much but we have enough Links atm (I know she technically isn't Link but you get the idea). Skull Kid, Impa, and Tetra are just a few of the many Zelda reps who deserve to be in Smash before Linkle.

Nominations: Kyo Kusanagi x5
 

ProfPeanut

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Linkle

Chance: 1%
Hang on, let me just double-check her history first before I rant about waifubait-

"She was literally put into Hyrule Warriors Legends because the fans loved the concept art of her. Also Eiji Aonuma is going to keep her in mind for future titles from now on." - Zeldapedia

...well ****.

It goes without saying that Sakurai is neither Tecmo nor Eiji Aonuma, but Linkle looks a lot like the textbook definition of a fan-ascended character. Compare that with everyone else who gets invented by Nintendo only to be promptly abandoned for the next title, no matter how much fan love they attract otherwise.

However, she's still a one-shot from a side-game, and would technically have to compete against Lana until she can show up in a different game. Add to that her relative recency, with Hyrule Warriors Legends coming out in 2016, and she's essentially just another hopeful who had the poor luck of showing up too late, with a fairly divisive public opinion behind her to boot.

Want: 10%
If she goes ahead and Bandana Dees her way into the franchise, then whatever. That's still work she has to put in first before she really has a fighting chance against all the other Zelda one-shots.


Prediction:
Rick, Coo & Kine: 0.5%

Nominations:
Sans (boss) x5
 
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Linkle?
Likelihood- 0.5% Base Game, 35% DLC. ProfPeanut ProfPeanut pretty much hit the nail on her head with her situation, but I'm optimistic that the DLC will at least attempt to provide Zelda with a decent pool of characters, even if it's only Skull Kid and Impa.
Want- 100%. A reckoning is not to be postponed indefinitely, Nintendo.
 

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Hyrule Warriors OC

Chance: 0%
Want: 0%

As for the last HW OC Waifu...
I want Zelda newcomers...but not the spin-off only one...

Lana's in a similar position to Geno, in that she's an OC from a spin-off who may or may not have rights issues. However, she doesn't have legions of passionate fans.

One of the main complaints about Lana is that she really doesn't seem to fit stylistically with the rest of the Zelda cast. And she's a Mary Sue. And that literally anyone else from the Zelda series should be considered first, as they are actually main-series characters with their own equally powerful fanbases. I know personally, I'd take Midna and/or Ghirahim, plus about 3/4 of the remaining characters (and all four of the BotW champions - HW Switch DLC pls?) before I accepted this anime invader. Besides, if we did want to canonize a HW OC, I vote for Volga anyway.
Now this one is trying to literally be my favorite video game character? No thanks.

I will say one thing about Rule 63 Link though that I can't fully hate - they did it well. Most rule 63 characters they come up with nowadays are there to be a younger, prettier, and all around 'better' version of the original - which usually leads to them becoming hopeless Mary Sues. Indeed, most of the time, the story will start with the new one meeting the older guy and immediately making him look like an idiot through the power of character shilling and the idiot ball.

Now Linkle is an interesting case since she's so far from being the female Link. He was forged into being a hero through trials, she was told she was and just went with it. He fights battles against the forces of evil, she can't work out how to get from point a to point b with a map. Her story in HW was actually funny in that she did a lot of pointless things and missed the entire battle - she got her spotlight, did heroic things, but they didn't upstage Link himself. Plus they use completely different weapons.

Only problem - they gave her the manchild (womanchild) personality that makes Tingle so annoying, and one of those was more than enough.

Still would rather get a canon Zelda character than a spinoff OC. But hey, Linkle's story also made Twili Midna important again. I'd honestly take Twili Midna as a Zelda echo above all others. The Zelda series doesn't need more clones, but I'll make an exception for her. But yeah, Urbosa's at the top of my list with the imp out. Linkle's about as far down on the 'Zelda reps I'd like to see' list as you can get.

And seriously, there's only one HW OC that needs to be canonized...


Nom: DLC Costumes x5
 

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An awful character who would be awful for Smash, we're desperate for a Zelda newcomer, one isn't one of trio. And not only is she a spin-off exclusive one off over a more popular main series character, she's still just a variation of Link, and a bad internet fan fiction quality one at that.

And seriously, there's only one HW OC that needs to be canonized...
This is truth

Nominate Daroach x5
 
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Linkle Chance: 2%

I've never thought of spin-off characters (unless you count Waluigi) as having good chances and that's especially true in this case since Linkle is still a pretty new character from a single, relatively new spin-off. Not to mention there may be disputes with ownership. I doubt she's strongly been considered to begin with and I don't think she's one anyone one the team would think it'd be worth having to go through the trouble of getting unless she had more demand or was personally requested by some of the developers of Hyrule Warriors (which would make it much easier, but still, we have no way of knowing if they have, and we have enough reasons to doubt it, and enough reasons to doubt her beyond that as well).

Want: 0%

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Linkle (I only hate that laughably bad name they gave her) but she doesn't even come close to being a character I'd want in Smash. I don't exactly believe in slots, but even so, I'd want Skull Kid and especially Tetra way before ever getting her.Heck, I'd even take anyone of, or even all of HW's original villains. On that note, it doesn't have to be in Smash, but gimme some more Wizzro, Volga and Cia. Or at least Wizzro and Volga. Cia's story played out already, but those guys have backgrounds that aren't much explored and are great characters with yet more potential. They could be great as antagonists in a mainline Zelda game.

I don't even know who (or what) to nominate at this point, so that's it for this post.
 

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Chance: 1%
When it comes to getting more Zelda characters, Linkle is not the first one that comes to mind. Sure, she could represent Hyrule Warriors, but I think Impa would be better to represent that series instead. Plus, she came out way too late, in 2016 and that really hurts her in the long run. Sure, there's a chance that Sakurai might be aware of the character, but I don't think he's going out of the way to put her instead of the popular ones like Skull Kid or Impa.

Want: Abstain
I really don't know much about her since I haven't played Hyrule Warriors yet.

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Kyo Kusanagi x5
 

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Linkle

If you want Hyrule Warriors content... they could put in trophies or ATs, maybe a music track. Additionally, a character like Impa or Skull Kid could have some of their moveset filled out with moves created for HW.

If you want female Zelda characters... there's Impa, Tetra, Twili or imp form Midna, Toon Zelda (ooh, Toon Zelda AND Young Zelda for complete redundancy), or even Fi, as better options. Ruto and Agitha would likely be heavily influenced by HW if they were included. There are also the various Great Fairies... Hell, put in Grandma from Wind Waker.

But Linkle? Meeeeeeeeeeeh.

Linkle chance: 0.1%
If they've decided they're branching out beyond the Triforce holders, they wouldn't start with Linkle. She's more like bottom of the barrel. I'd be very surprised if she got in before Skull Kid, Impa and Tetra. And I'd expect Ghirahim, Yuga, a beast-form Ganon or Ganondorf revamp, or Vaati before Linkle as well.

Linkle want: 0%
I like the idea of a female protagonist in a Zelda game*. But straight gender-swapped Link would be a little lame, and Linkle isn't even that... she's just like, a confused girl who merely thinks she's the Hero.

*Consider that Zelda is wields the Triforce of Wisdom and has considerable magical power... and in Twilight Princess she's also portrayed as proficient with a saber. (Tetra is also competent in battle.) Zelda being able to fight would make sense, although certainly she would have a different set of abilities than Link. And after failing so many times by going after the Triforce of Wisdom first and being struck down by the holder of the Triforce of Courage... you'd think maybe Ganondorf would try a different approach sometime...

Technically, Zelda has been the protagonist of her own game before and in that game defeated Ganon, but ummm... those CD-i games were not good and are not canon.
 

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I don't see us getting any Zelda newcomer who isn't Skull Kid or Impa. Especially not some OC from Hyrule Warriors who's in the same position as Geno, being a Third-party but not really. Hyrule warriors doesn't look like it will get any major representation, considering there were quite alot of people wanting Ganon's desing from that game, which didn't happen. Also I don't remember when she was revealed to be a thing but I don't recall her being a popular Smash request at the time.


Want: ABSTAIN

The Prince x5
 

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Nominations: Kyo Kusanagi x5
There goes Sari, continuing to nominate the #1 nomination spot... Why? You already won!

b u t i f K y o i s g o i n g t o b e r a t e d r e g a r d l e s s a t t h i s p o i n t, wHy Go FoR kYo WhEn YoU cAn VoTe FoR qUoTe? (Campaign slogan -year 3140)

I personally don't understand...

Edit: The Kyo/Quote thing was satire, and I'm not forcing anybody to nominate anything. I just don't know why Sari would continue to nominate Kyo...

Edit 2: Still though, any support to get Quote above the 100x nomination quota would be greatly appreciated. It's gonna be tight to make it...
 
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There goes Sari, continuing to nominate the #1 nomination spot... Why? You already won!

b u t i f K y o i s g o i n g t o b e r a t e d r e g a r d l e s s a t t h i s p o i n t, why go for Kyo when you can vote for Quote? (Campaign slogan -year 3140)

I personally don't understand...

Edit: The Kyo/Quote thing was satire, and I'm not forcing anybody to nominate anything. I just don't know why Sari would continue to nominate Kyo...
It's a free country. Let them nominate whoever they want.
Edit: wait never mind, just realized it was satire lol
 
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It's a free country. Let them nominate whoever they want.
Edit: wait never mind, just realized it was satire lol
Yep. I can't force anybody to do anything. I am just aware that Quote is a character with a relatively low fanbase/awareness base. If I nominate alone, Quote'll still pass the threshold. It's just going to be tight. Should have alternated capitals for that sweet effect of sarcasm. It was a request of vain. Kyo'll continue to be nominated.
I don't even know who (or what) to nominate at this point, so that's it for this post.
He-He-HeY, yOu ShOuLd Go AnD gIvE qUoTe A nOmInAtE
 
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