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Rate Their Chances (of Returning) - Day 6 - Mewtwo

bijoukaiba

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Yeah, I've never really played Advance Wars myself, but I did a little research... Andy is like the "face" of AW, despite the numerous games and characters. So Andy is to AW as Marth is to Fire Emblem. Other than that, I can't say I've heard too much about him, but I saw my friend playing the game a few weeks ago. O_O It really is like a futuristic FE...

Hmmm... mm... I'll give Andy a 50%... a coinflip- just because I haven't really learned enough about him to give him a decent debate or a fair review.

Poo (from Earthbound) [x5]
 

Stryks

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I would give him a 50%, since I dont know him very well, BUT theres already a konami character in smash, and doubt konami will get 2 characters in, so gotta give him 25%

nominates Ouendan/EBA x5
 

Devastlian

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Awesome, popular character from an awesome and popular series, unique weapon, long red hair (Ayami Kojima version or NONE AT ALL!!!!!11111)...As Stryks mentioned, the limited third party slots could hold him back. Thirty-five percent.

Three for Crono and two for Lucas.
 

Brawlmatt202

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I never played the game either...

But now that I know that Simon Belmont is owned by Komali, and they already have Solid Snake there, I give him 20%...

BTW, which appearence do you think they'll use for Simon if he actually gets in?

Nominations:
Captain Syrup x5
 

Virgilijus

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I say 40%; Castelvania is one of the biggest and longest running game franchises and Simon is the character most associated with it. He could be a very nice complement to Snake, another third party realistic human character. The only problem I see is that Zero Suit Samus already has a whip, so his moveset may not be incredibly unique.

Frog x5
 

LukeFonFabre

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Castlevania is a popular third party series, and Simon Belmont is the character to choose to rep the series. However, with Snake already in as a Konami character, his chances are somewhat lowered as I don't think it's likely that any company will get more than one rep. It's a shame, because he looks like he'd be an interesting character.

20%

Nominate: Ouendan (x5)
 

pirkid

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Ok.
I love Simon.
But, and this is with me crying, I highly doubt he'll get in. Castlevania just isn't important enough, compared to all the other games.

20%

Balloon Fighter x5
Whee, I love Balloon Fight.
 

HiddenTiger

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Normally, I give all 3rd parties 50% chance, since that area is so unpredictable. Yet with so little space for them, I find it hard to picture Nintendo asking any particular company for more than one character. 10% chance.

Nominate Tom Nook x5
 

Eight Sage

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PAY ATTENTION TO THIS


Ok... I'm seeing that almost every body are giving away random (and low) percentage 'cause they simply don't know him or don't like him... (two absolutely not valid reasons...)

I'll give SIX EXCLUSIVE FOR NINTENDO reasons why he can be in:

-Castlevania (NES)
-Castlevania II: Simon's Quest (NES)
-Konami Wai Wai World (NES)
-Super Castlevania IV (SNES)
-Wai Wai World 2: SOS!! Paseri Jou (NES)
-Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance (GBA)
-DreamMix TV World Fighters (GC, also for PS2)

Any third party char has more games than Simon?

(And if we talk about the Castlevania franchise, the most third party games for Nintendo are from the Castlevania Series)

Don't tell me that konami already sent Snake 'cause is not valid to say Konami wont give any more char, whats more, thanks to snake we can say that konami agrees sending his char to Brawl.

I'll give Simon a hopeful 80%...

Nominates Paper Mario x5
 

killbeast301

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Ok, no offense, but you sound like one of those franchise fanboys that want basically every character from their franchise in smash. I've seen Zelda, Mario, Earthbound, and basically every franchise that's in smash allready, Fanboys. It's different when it's a third party, and a franchise not allready in, but you're still recognizable. And just because konami gave a character, doesn't mean they want to give more. Plus, more games =/= huge chance. Slightly higher chance but not huge, and what about Castlevania games that are not on a nintendo console? Those mean that konami is not dedicating the series to Nintendo. I don't know much aout the series, but just because you like the guy does not mean he has a huge chance. You gave good points, but they don't hold as much water as you seem to think they do. I give him 35%

edit: Dangit!!! I got moved to the other page with a couple posts in between. that message is directed at Eight Sage

Nominate Rayman x 5
 

EnFerris

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5% Just like I'm going to give to any third pary character other than Megaman and Sonic. Being in Smash Bros. is like getting into the Game hall of fame,, and if you were making a game hal of fame, who would you add first?

Nominate the Hero of Winds. x5 And can we stop calling him Cel-shaded link? HE isn't just a diffrent graphical version of Link, he's his own character.
 

Devastlian

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Nominate the Hero of Winds. x5 And can we stop calling him Cel-shaded link? HE isn't just a diffrent graphical version of Link, he's his own character.
Seriously...at least call him The Wind Waker since that's another of his titles. Though, I do like the Japanese nickname "Cat-Eyed Link." :3
 

Iggy K

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PAY ATTENTION TO THIS


Ok... I'm seeing that almost every body are giving away random (and low) percentage 'cause they simply don't know him or don't like him... (two absolutely not valid reasons...)

I'll give SIX EXCLUSIVE FOR NINTENDO reasons why he can be in:

-Castlevania (NES)
-Castlevania II: Simon's Quest (NES)
-Konami Wai Wai World (NES)
-Super Castlevania IV (SNES)
-Wai Wai World 2: SOS!! Paseri Jou (NES)
-Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance (GBA)
-DreamMix TV World Fighters (GC, also for PS2)

Any third party char has more games than Simon?

(And if we talk about the Castlevania franchise, the most third party games for Nintendo are from the Castlevania Series)
Mega Man and Bomberman have more games on nintendo systems then there are games in the whole Castlevania series. I'm very sure Pac-Man and Sonic have been in at least that many games on Nintendo systems as well. I'd say Namco, Sega, Capcom and Hudson are at least as close with Nintendo as Konami, so why another Konami character when there are four companies who just as friendly with Nintendo? Ubisoft and Square have been buddies with them lately too. I'll give simon 15%.

Nominate Deoxys x3, Pac-Man x2.
 

Kirye

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Eh, was never a fan of Simon. If ANOTHER Konami character was gonna make the cut, and it had to be from Castlevania, it should be Soma. I could care less about who deserves it or not in this vote, I just like Soma better than Simon. (In other words, don't bother quoting me to say "But Simon deserves it!", don't care. XD) 5%

Nominate Black Knight x 5
 

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Ok, no offense, but you sound like one of those franchise fanboys that want basically every character from their franchise in smash. I've seen Zelda, Mario, Earthbound, and basically every franchise that's in smash allready, Fanboys. It's different when it's a third party, and a franchise not allready in, but you're still recognizable. And just because konami gave a character, doesn't mean they want to give more. Plus, more games =/= huge chance. Slightly higher chance but not huge, and what about Castlevania games that are not on a nintendo console? Those mean that konami is not dedicating the series to Nintendo. I don't know much aout the series, but just because you like the guy does not mean he has a huge chance. You gave good points, but they don't hold as much water as you seem to think they do. I give him 35%

edit: Dangit!!! I got moved to the other page with a couple posts in between. that message is directed at Eight Sage
No offense, your comment is serious... But did I sound like a fan boy?

First of all he isn't my fav third party. I only said that 'cause there are a lot of people giving percentage and don't even know the guy that they are voting for.

And when I said he has more third party, I said that he has more EXCLUSIVE for Nintendo games, Mega Man or Pac Man went all consoles.

Well... thats all... giving reasons only :laugh:
 

The Franchise

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Lets see now pros:

recognizable game character: yes

long standing on nintendo platform: yup with several games spread out on all different platforms

major franchise series: indeed and Simon is also the main hero of it to boot making him the obvious choice (although I am a Soma fan)

creatable moveset: Just paly any of the games. The whip plus all the secondary weapons available are enough to create a moveset that would be totally different from any other characters. Also, before anyone argues Zsamus there is not enough game footage of her to effectively back up her being a whip user (by which i mean more then a few moves) at this point.

cons:

Third party limited spots: Exact same problem with every single other third party character

Konami: Debateable. Might be a prob since Snake came from there. Or then it could be helpful in that Nintendo already has an opening to negotiate with Konami. Just because Sonic and Megaman are most wanted, doesn't guarentee that Sega and Campcom are going to fork them over for use. People keep acting like its already proven fact that these two will be in, and that no other respectful third party game series have any chance at all for representation. Yeesh.

A respectful and fair 55%

Nominate Deoxys x 3, Balloon Fighter x 2
 

D3monicWolv3s

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Simon Belmont 95% He fits very well!!!

And i give 5 to Paper Mario!
That is so based on how much you like the character, there is no way he has 95% chance of being in.

Honestly I have to give simon a 10% very low, already stated their will only be a few 3rd party characters. I really dobt they will add two konami characters.

X5 DK Jr.
 

Lord_Deathborne

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Call me crazy, but I actually think Simon Belmont is in fact one of the more likely third-party candidates to be featured in SSBB, despite the fact that there is already another Konami character (Snake) included in the roster. Remember, the only reason Snake is in there is because Kojima-san begged Sakurai-san to have him included - Konami had nothing (or at most very little) to do with the decision. Also, it should be noted that Sakurai-san NEVER that there would be one character per third-party company, that is nothing more than mere speculation assuming that Sakurai and Co. are selecting characters on an equal opportunity basis, which may, in fact, not be the case. Also, the 1-2 more third party characters figure is NOT a definite number - recall the original quote included a "maybe" - which could mean anything really... In the worst case scenario: Snake's it; and in a more ideal scenario: perhaps as many as five third-party characters will be included (counting Snake, of course).

Now that I got that bit of "Sakurai said..." business behind me, I will now go into what Simon as going for him: Castlevania was one of the earliest third-party franchises to appear on the Famicom (NES), predating even Mega Man; the franchise was instrumental to the success of the NES and early success of the SNES (Nintendo did stumble a bit after '91...) as well as the success of the GBA and DS handheld systems; Unlike other third-party franchises that defected over to SONY during the N64 vs. Playstation days, Castlevania remained considerably loyal to Nintendo; and finally, considering that Simon best represents the Castlevania franchise having the most appearances and considering that most of his adventures have appeared on a Nintendo platform, with exception to Vampire Killer (MSX), Castlevania X68000/Chronicles (Sharp X68000/PSX), and Haunted Castle (Arcade), I would contend that there are very few third-party characters deserving of the SSBB roster spot than my main man Simon Belmont. I give him an 85% chance of making the cut.

Yet again, I direct all of my nominations to Mike Jones.

EDIT: Also, he was mentioned like twice in the Toukoken. :grin:
 

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Meh, he is really cool, but he is third party, and we already, seem to have our hearts set on Sonic and/or Megaman. Then again there is that chance... 30%

Nominating Paper Mario x5, as usual (Thank you Eight Sage and Mestro!!!)
 

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Simon Belmont. Not likely at all since Snake got in first, even though he TOTALLY deserves it more.

I give him a sad 10%.

Ouendan x 5
 

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Simon Belmont and Snake are from the same company?? Well then I don't really think his changes are so high. I give him a 5% change.

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