As a full disclaimer, I'm Jewish and as such the entire argument (and general accusations) of "race-mixing" kind of hits close to home, given it's historical usage as "justification" against us.
That said, this thread does remind me a bit of a joke:
A Jewish man gets into a taxi in Belfast and the driver asks him "So are you Protestant or Catholic?". The man replies with "Actually, I'm Jewish". The driver nods somewhat confused to himself and a few minutes later asks "So are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?"
Just gonna step in and say without even reading White Supremacy is unacceptable at Smashboards and will be dealt with swiftly. Ty and continue.
That mod warning would mean a lot more if the guy spouting this stuff wasn't talking about how his "racial" sister would be betraying her family and race for dating a white person, just saying.
Personally, the issue is important to me as my wife is Japanese and I am white. I came from a predominately white Christian family with strong ties to conservative politics and lived in a 90% white neighborhood. Between my wife and I we have a daughter with plans to enlarge our family who obviously our daughter is a mixed white and Japanese.
In Japan, she obviously gets tons of attention from just about anybody and curious people wanting to know what kind of “half” she is. And the amount of times that my wife has gotten “oh she doesn’t look a thing like you!” could fill a book.
We are thinking of moving back to the States some day and where we move to will be heavily affected by this very issue. However, I do understand some people’s misgivings about this issue and have talked in length to them about it - even to some of my old friends and family members.
I suppose I'm a bit confused at the distinction you make here, considering how "Japanese" is an nationality and "White" is a color. Why do you consider her mixed white and Japanese and not mixed American and Japanese?
Where you move depends on what your anecdote you have an issue with, I suppose. Japan is a highly homogeneous place, while the states certainly aren't; I don't think I have any friends who weren't basically half a dozen different ethnic groups, which sort of comes with being a country of immigrants.
As for the second one, that's basically every family and you will never be able to get away from it. I look nothing like my Mother and older brother, which meant that as a stroller aged rugrat my Mom would typically sarcastically reply to stuff like that that I was the milkman's kid, along with quite a few years of confused camp counselors trying to connect the fact that my brother and I shared the same last name with the two kids in front of them.
If a genocide of a group of people due to race mixing was to happen, it would have to be on a global massive global scale.
It's also just completely wrong from a practical point of view. Consider the Cherokee for example. Would you consider the Cherokee to have died out when the only remnant of them is in blood as thin as Elizabeth Warren's, or would you consider it much more damning when the last fluent speaker of Cherokee passes away?
I believe that love has no boundaries and trying to control them to keep family bloodlines intact to be ridiculous. However, I agree in regards to a indinegeous tribe in the middle of the ocean who is comprised for 200 some people. Shipping in a bunch of ethnicities to mate with them isn’t a good idea. But that would never happen. So we don’t have to worry about that.
Well...again, Jew here, but this is something we think about on occasion in our communities. Especially seeing how we're a maternal ethnoreligion, where lineage passes down through the mother, not the father.
Before WWII, there was something about 20 million Jews in the world. Today, ~75 years after the Holocaust and the assorted attempts at genocide since, our numbers are only around 12 million. The chances of us ever reaching the same population is basically zilch, and to be perfectly honest with most of us centered in basically two countries in the world now, a similar event happening would likely wipe us out for good. And given even the slightest knowledge of Middle Eastern history and politics, or the % of Jews that live within the NYC metro area and the average missile strike radius, etc, I, uh, don't think you'd call us conspiracy theorists for deeming it a likelihood.
So to say that my grandparents or my mother would not be
somewhat disappointed in not finding a "nice jewish girl" would be lying. But in the same way my father is Roman Catholic and my grandparents were fine with that, is that I'd be happy, and would much appreciate that our children were raised jewish.
This desire of theirs has nothing to do with the potential culture of my hypothetical wife, or any feelings of superiority or other such nonsense about theirs and my own cultural values as jews (as
Americans is another story), but the simple yet heavy wish that we don't die out. This type of familial obligation, I guess you can call it, given from parents and grandparents who fled literal extermination and watched the family that didn't be rounded up and mass executed by the people who were days before their neighbors and countrymen...it sticks with a group, culturally.
But a big thing about being
American is that we're not the only ones who fled persecution, war, famine, etc. We left there and came here, to create a new life, a better life. One uniquely different such that one cannot possibly mistake an Italian-American with an Italian for example. And as a nation we're nowhere near old enough to have forgotten on a familial basis, what it was we fled from as we look at what we created, making something uniquely American.
And that's what the most important thing to teach to a hypothetical child of mine, I'd say, especially as this type of civic nationalism that the US cultural identity prides itself in (compared to basically every non-former-British-colony country in the world that would be ethnically based) is highly compatible with general jewish cultural values.
We are thinking of moving back to the States some day and where we move to will be heavily affected by this very issue. However, I do understand some people’s misgivings about this issue and have talked in length to them about it - even to some of my old friends and family members.
The funny thing about the race-mixing argument is that the largest and actually accurate historical example of it is the United States itself. We're the great international melting pot, assimilating your culture, your values, your holidays and
especially your food. From a race and "race-mixing" perspective, as bull**** as that entire philosophy is, we're basically a much friendlier, louder version of the Borg.
It's not a matter of race considering how most everyone over here are mutts as far as most of the world is concerned. It's a matter of culture, and the aspects of your culture, your value system and priorities and how you distinguish right from wrong, and the aspects of your wife's culture, her value system and priorities and how she distinguishes right from wrong.
Therefore, where you should move to is New York, as we are objectively the best state in the Union, and therefore the world.
We also spend over twice the US and European average on public schooling per student, which as parents with a young child and hopefully more on the way, is typically a pretty important thing to consider.
