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R.O.B. Metagame Development thread

6Mizu

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I made this for easy access to ROB's ATs. This is like Darth wafflez post except newer and better.

R.O.B.'s Advance Techniques:

One of my main reasons for this is that once when I was a complete noob there was nothing like this when I need to learn rob's ATs; so if anyone has this problem they can look here. So what do you think about this guys?
If I've missed anything please post them below

Glide Toss
What this AT Does: This AT allows rob to accelerate forward while throwing an item (usually Gyro).
Button input: Throw an item (usually a Gyro) and rolldoge: As soon as you begin to roll flick the C-stick in the direction you would like the item to be thrown. The better the timing for this is the further the acceleration.
Ex. Vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDtdmdkzaro

Reverse Roboburner
What this AT Does: Allows ROB to move in opposite direction while using roboburner.
Button input: Hit up-B and use control stick to start moving backward while facing same direction.
Ex. (N/A)

Gyro-Cancel
What this AT Does: Allows ROB to cancel charging animation of Gyro without shooting, shielding, or air dodging.
Button input: Hit shield button as soon as gyro charging animation starts.
Ex. vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZejjfEsS58 (I know this video shows waveboucegyro cancel but it is still a good example.)

Wavebounce
What this AT Does: Allows ROB to quickly switch directions after activating a special. It works with up-B and Down B.
Button input: hit down B or up-B and quickly turn the control stick in the opposite direction.
Ex. vid: (N/A)

Wavebouce Gyro-cancel
What This AT Does: Allows ROB to quickly switch directions by quickly activating gyro, waveboucing, and quickly deactivating gyro.
Button input: Jump forward hit Down B and wavebouce then quickly hit shield to perform gyro cancel.
Ex. vid: See Gyro-Cancel video

Dash Boost Roboburner (calling it this was TheMIKe's idea) :)
What this AT does: This AT gives ROB an extra push without using any additional fuel.
Button input: Dash in the direction of opponent, then quickly use up-B facing the direction you originally dashed from, so ROB's back is is facing opponent.
Button input: Dash, Up-B and Flick Direction Stick in from where you originally dashed from
Ex. vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81__y1jRRzo (It is very close to what this ROB player does in this vid at around :15 seconds.)I need to know if the third to last one is an AT or not, because for long time I've been wondering if it is or not, but I didn't want to post it and have everyone think I was a "noob" or anything of the sort.

D-air cancel
What This AT Does: Allows ROB to cancel the lag of D-air.
Button input: Walk off edge, use d-air then tilt control stick toward stage or D.I. what ever you wanna call it.
Ex. Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBplR9bbgjQ

Megaburner
What this AT Does: Allows ROB to save A large amount of fuel instead of burning it up quickly
Button input: Hit up B, after doing this don't hold control stick to propel upward, instead repeatedly hit the B button to propel upward.
Ex. Vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lgM7CJGANU

Boost hogging
(I really don't need to write any thing because it's all explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=248063

Ledge Boosting
(don't need to explain any thing, explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=253754

GFSC + Z-DROP
(don't need to explain any thing, explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=252683

"NEW" R.O.B Tech revisted
(don't need to explain any thing, explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=265578

Simple way to set up D-Tilt Lock
(don't need to explain any thing, explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=265580

Air Releasing
(don't need to explain any thing, explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=267616

Gyro Platform Cancel

(don't need to explain any thing, explained in the link below)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=258328


General Item Uses

F-smash w/ an item in hand
Press A and hold A to pick up an item (for example a Gyro or Bananas), once this has been done...flick the C-Stick left or right (obliviously) to use F-smash. Note that when doing this the characters DOES NOT throw the item in hand.
Thread for Diddy's w/ the same data: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176942
 

rPSIvysaur

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It's better now...
You forgot to say that your Side-B can be wavebounced...
 

TheMike

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Yes, there's a thread for that. Also, 6Mizu, you shoul post this on the Community Guide. It would be better IMO
 

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Oh yeah, i forgot to say... Nice thread :) And no, just somethings are posted on the Community Guide. Therefore, I said that it would be better to post there so as for it to be updated. =)
 

NaZe

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This is an old video of mine. If this was discovered, i apologize, because i knew little about the boards. I personally call this, Robo Boost Burner. With tap jump activated, do a "full Glide Toss", and, at the end of that, the UpB, will rise very quick. At 2:42, i made one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTS1CujxjeI

I´ll remake this soon, with all his posibilities. Thanks.

P.S.: I´m only capable of doing it´s jab cancel during a Glide Toss. Some time ago i made: Glide Toss --> Jab Cancel --> Fsmash. I´ll post here soon that, when i get that replay.
 

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I remember an edge hog where u can just tap away from the edge, and then up-B (not immediately as u will pas the re-ledge grab) and yeah basically u grab the edge again, and it can be used to edge hog ppl like Kirby well, (some1 ese introduced this, I just noticed that it wasn't on ur list so i'm putting it there)
 

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Indeed. While I had data on most of those, I forgot canceling the Dair. Expect an entry of that soon.
 

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i think i wave-bounced the neutral B today. only did it once by accident but it looked like a wave-bounce to me but i got punished for it so i did not try it again (and i now what wave-bounce looks like since i was trying to learn snake and did it alot with his nades). Also i stopped playing for a while and when i got back into the game i heard rob has a momentum cancel with wave-bounce side B and if thats true then that is a AT.
 

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Wavebounce is universal w/ all specials, but some specials just stop the moment from the wavebounce. (Lucas loves WB)
 

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^ yea thats what i thought but since the neutral B was not mentioned i thought i might be wrong.

Gw are you sure you don't need to wavebounce the side B. Is there a video of someone showing how to do it?
 

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We tried wavebouncing it and it gave a similar effect to trying to momentum cancel with Fox's shine. It boosted us, but in the wrong direction.
 

N.A.G.A.C.E

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^ ok are here any videos were i can see it. Also does it matter what direction you do your side B. Lastly do u need to do a aerial first?

edit: i am also going to post this in the q&a thread since thats were i think this belongs.
 

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It took me a few weeks of random tourney results threads before I realized that you weren't the same person lol. Where does Mr. Escalator fit into this?
 

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Oh, i almost forgot bout boost hogging I'll add to this.
Also Mister Eric when you post your new find I'll post it on here as well.
:)

I have a question did anyone look into the DASH CANCEL ROBOBURNER like I asked......because I wanna know if it's an AT.
 

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I have a question did anyone look into the DASH CANCEL ROBOBURNER like I asked......because I wanna know if it's an AT.
Hmm, IMO it can be considered as an AT as it's kind of a B reverse. I would not just call it as DASH CACNEL ROBOBURNER, probably the way that reaper put on that video would be better. ^^
 

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Hmm, IMO it can be considered as an AT as it's kind of a B reverse. I would not just call it as DASH CANCEL ROBOBURNER, probably the way that reaper put on that video would be better. ^^
Well....see the thing is I thought about calling it that, but it sounds lame that way. I think we (together) should come up with a better name.
another thing I said in the description its close to what he does in the vid about :15 sec into the vid.
the difference is that the way i do it, it gives little more momentum.
 

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What about Dash Boost Roboburner - DBR(super lol, lol)? And on 0:15 sec, he did the same thing, but just at the opposite direction. x)
 

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B-air wall of pain? How can B-air be a wall of pain when it is litterally impossible to procede with it?
 

6Mizu

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doens't matter....
since useing an aireal cancels robobuner....up-b can be use again after doing DBR soo that mean b-air can be used again.
also its not a wall of pain that lasts very longer, like TL's b-air wall, but it's good enough to kill or make opponents recover lower.
 

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Angry stomp? It has no use at all, but still.

What about that new glidetoss that involves rolling and dropping the gyro?
 
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