Data Professor E. Gadd's Research Papers : Frame Data

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

Cleaning It Up!

Luigi Style
Special thanks goes to @BJN39 and @Indigo Jeans for showing me how it's done

Luigi is _____

Tied for 21st in character weight (97)
Tied for 30th in dashing speed
Tied for 27th in walking speed
47th in air speed
44th in both falling and fast falling speed
is able to crawl (it's hilarious btw)

Here you will find all the terms found in the tables below. You will not find everyone of them on each table due to some of these terms being not applicable to the attack. Should you ever get confused what something is check here first or ask a question.

Charge Frame = the first frame in which you begin to charge your smash attack
Frame Starting = first frame at which a hitbox is active
Frame Ending = when a hitbox finishes
Frame Refresh = the amount of time required before a hitbox may land on the same opponent
Damage = % done to it's target
Traj Angle = short for the trajectory angle of a move
= Sakurai Angle
= the autolink angle
Kill % = this is an approximate value at which the combination of Damage of the move, WKB, SKB, BKB, the damage of the opponent and the angle of the launch will kill at (rage is not used as a factor for this)
Bone* = This is where the Hitbox is attached to on a character, each character is made up of a set of "bones" to which Hitboxes and Hurtboxes can be attached to. Attacks additionally don't have to connected to a bone
Size* = The size a of a move's hitbox, while I can't directly show you the Hitbox you can get a fair idea of the Hitbox by comparing it to other moves
X* = this is how many units a Hitbox is displaced on the X coordinate
Y* = this is how many units a Hitbox is displaced on the Y coordinate
Z* = this effects where a Hitbox is in relation to a bone, It's also complicated
Element* = the attribute of an attack
Hitlag* = the amount of increased lag created after landing an attack
Clash* = indicates whether or not a hit box will clash with another hitbox
BKB* = this is the base knock back of the move
SKB* = this is the scaling knock back of the move, higher the number the faster the knock back of the move grows
WKB* = weight based knock back, this is similar to base knock back in the fact with more damage it doesn't knock back farther. It is simply the base knock back of a move based on an opponents weight
Shield** = indicates increased damage dealt to shields
Tripping** = indicates an increased rate of causing tripping
Air/Ground** = This indicates if hitboxes hit only air borne or grounded opponents
Jab transition** = this is the earliest frame you can begin your next jab in your jab combo
Intangibility** = indicates when and what is intangible (not to be confused with invisible)
Autocancel** = the frames before and after a move in which they will auto cancel and not give you landing lag

* indicates stats in the complex frame data, but not the simple frame data
** indicates stats that appear in the Misc. Frame data

Jab 1 | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00
Frame Ending | 4.00 | 4.00 | 4.00
Damage | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Traj Angle | 90 | 65 | 50

Jab 2 | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Frame Ending | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Damage | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00
Traj Angle | 70 | 60 | 60

|

Kill % | 290.47 | 290.47

Dash Attack | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4 | Hit Box 5 | Hit Box 6 | Hit Box 7 | Hit Box 8 | Hit Box 9
Frame Starting | 4.00 | 10.00 | 16.00 | 22.00 | 29.00 | 37.00 | 48.00 | 48.00 | 48.00
Frame Ending | | | | | | | 49.00 | 49.00 | 49.00
Damage | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00
Traj Angle | | | | | | |

|

Kill % | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 357.87 | 357.87 | 357.87

Forward tilt

| Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Kill % | 252.31 | 252.31 | 252.31

Forward tilt → | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Kill % | 252.31 | 252.31 | 252.31

Forward tilt

| Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Kill % | 252.31 | 252.31 | 252.31

Up tilt | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 11.00 | 11.00 | 11.00
Damage | 6.00 | 6.00 | 6.00
Traj Angle | 100 | 100 | 100
Kill % | 331.01 | 331.01 | 331.01

Down tilt | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 9.00 | 9.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle | 74 | 74
Kill % | 420.81 | 420.81

Sex Kick | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Frame Starting | 3.00 | 3.00 | 6.00 | 6.00
Frame Ending | 6.00 | 6.00 | 32.00 | 32.00
Damage | 12.00 | 12.00 | 6.00 | 6.00
Traj Angle | 90 | 90 | 80 | 80
Kill % | 195.01 | 195.01 | 309.58 | 309.58

|

Kill % | 243.30 | 243.30

Back Air | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Frame Starting | 6.00 | 6.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 12.00 | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Kill % | 170.01 | 297.525 | 297.525 | 297.525

Up Air | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 12.00 | 12.00
Damage | 11.00 | 11.00 | 7.00 | 7.00
Traj Angle | 55 | 55 | 55 | 55
Kill % | 223.73 | 223.73 | 323.17 | 323.17

Drill (Dair) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 10.00 | 11.00 | 11.00
Frame Ending | 11.00 | 15.00 | 15.00
Damage | 10.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle | 270 |

|

Kill % | 328.00 | 283.69 | 283.69

The Poke (FSmash

) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Starting | 12.00 | 12.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 15.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 65 | 65
Kill % | 127.81 | 127.81

The Poke (FSmash →) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Starting | 12.00 | 12.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 15.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 53 | 53
Kill % | 130.09 | 130.09

The Poke (FSmash

) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Starting | 12.00 | 12.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 15.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 45 | 45
Kill % | 118.98 | 118.98

Up Smash | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 7.00 | 7.00
Frame Starting | 9.00 | 9.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 14.00 | 12.00
Traj Angle | 110 | 110
Kill % | 149.89 | 171.30

Down Smash | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Charge Frame | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Frame Starting | 6.00 | 6.00 | 14.00 | 14.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 16.00 | 16.00
Damage | 14.00 | 15.00 | 14.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 120 | 120 | 50 | 50
Kill % | 172.38 | 162.24 | 137.68 | 129.58

Grabs | Standing Grab | Running Grab | Pivot Grab | Pummel
Frame Starting | 6.00 | 8.00 | 9.00 | 16.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 10.00 | 11.00 | 17.00
Damage | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.20

Throws | Up | Down | Forward | Back
Damage | 8.00 | 6.00 | 9.00 | 10.00
Traj Angle | 90 | 80 | 45 | 45
BKB | 70 | 75 | 50 | 80
SKB | 72 | 30 | 65 | 65
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 244.32 | 709.81 | 272.36 | 196.22

Luigi Hadoken | Hit Box 1
Frame Starting | 17.00
Damage | 6.00
Traj Angle |

BKB | 7
SKB | 25
WKB | 0
Kill % | 1234.82

Luigi Tornado | Hit box 1 | Hit box 2 | Hit box 3 | Hit box 4 | Hit box 5 | Hit box 6
Frame Starting | 10.00 | 10.00 | 10.00 | 44.00 | 44.00 | 44.00
Frame Ending | 34.00 | 34.00 | 34.00 | 45.00 | 45.00 | 45.00
Frame Refreshing | 6.00 | 6.00 | 6.00 | N/A | N/A | N/A
Damage | 1.50 | 1.50 | 1.50 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Traj Angle |

|

| 70 | 70 | 90
BKB | 85 | 80 | 30 | 80 | 80 | 80
SKB | 30 | 30 | 60 | 130 | 130 | 130
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | N/A | N/A | N/A | 261.79 | 261.79 | 245.05

Shoryuken (Air) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 6.00
Frame Ending | 6.00 |
Damage | 20.00 | 1.00
Traj Angle | 90
BKB | 40
SKB | 66
WKB | 0
Kill % | 149.85 | N/A

Shoryuken (ground) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 6.00
Frame Ending | 6.00 |
Damage | 25.00 | 1.00
Traj Angle | 88 |
BKB | 40 |
SKB | 77 |
WKB | 0 |
Kill % | 104.51 | N/A

Disclaimer : I'm still working on green missile/misfire and i'm 98% sure these numbers aren't right

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BKB | 20 |
SKB | 80 |
WKB | 0 |
Kill % | 236.41

|
BKB | 20 |
SKB | 100 |
WKB | 0 |
Kill % | 84.11 |

Taunt | Hit Box 1
Frame Starting | 45.00
Frame Ending | 46.00
Damage | 2.00
Traj Angle | 270
BKB | 100
SKB | 0
WKB | 180

Floor Attack (missed tech) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 19.00 | 24.00
Frame Ending | 21.00 | 26.00
Damage | 7.00 | 7.00
Traj Angle | 48 | 48
BKB | 80 | 80
SKB | 48 | 48
WKB | 0 | 0

|

BKB | 60 | 60
SKB | 50 | 50
WKB | 0 | 0

Edge Attack | Hit Box 1
Frame Starting | 20.00
Frame Ending | 23.00
Damage | 7.00
Traj Angle | 45
BKB | 90
SKB | 20
WKB | 0

Jab 1 | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00
Frame Ending | 4.00 | 4.00 | 4.00
Damage | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Traj Angle | 90 | 65 | 50
Bone | 16 | 15 | 21
Size | 4.5 | 3.0 | 3.5
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 2.5 | 1.2 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 100 | 100 | 100
SKB | 0 | 0 | 0
WKB | 20 | 20 | 20

Jab 2 | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Frame Ending | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Damage | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00
Traj Angle | 70 | 60 | 60
Bone | 22 | 21 | 15
Size | 4.5 | 3.0 | 3.5
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 2.5 | 1.2 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 100 | 100 | 100
SKB | 0 | 0 | 0
WKB | 15 | 20 | 20

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Bone | 12 | 12
Size | 4.5 | 4.5
X | 1.0 | 0.0
Y | -1.0 | 0.0
Z | -4.5 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.00 | 1.00
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 65 | 65
SKB | 80 | 80
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 290.47 | 290.47

Dash Attack | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4 | Hit Box 5 | Hit Box 6 | Hit Box 7 | Hit Box 8 | Hit Box 9
Frame Starting | 4.00 | 10.00 | 16.00 | 22.00 | 29.00 | 37.00 | 48.00 | 48.00 | 48.00
Frame Ending | | | | | | | 49.00 | 49.00 | 49.00
Damage | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00
Traj Angle | | | | | | |

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Bone | | | | | | | N/A | N/A | N/A
Size | | | | | | | 5.0 | 4.0 | 3.0
X | | | | | | | 12.0 | 6.0 | 0.0
Y | | | | | | | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | | | | | | | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | | | | | | | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | | | | | | | 2.5 | 2.5 | 2.5
Clash | | | | | | | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | | | | | | | 50 | 50 | 50
SKB | | | | | | | 128 | 128 | 128
WKB | | | | | | | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 357.87 | 357.87 | 357.87

Forward tilt

| Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Bone | 9 | 8 | 3
Size | 4.8 | 4.0 | 3.4
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | -2.0
Z | 3.6 | 1.2 | 1.1
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 2 | 2 | 2
SKB | 100 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 252.31 | 252.31 | 252.31

Forward tilt → | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Bone | 9 | 8 | 3
Size | 4.8 | 4.0 | 3.4
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | -2.0
Z | 3.6 | 1.2 | 1.1
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 2 | 2 | 2
SKB | 100 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 252.31 | 252.31 | 252.31

Forward tilt

| Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Bone | 9 | 8 | 3
Size | 4.8 | 4.0 | 3.4
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | -2.0
Z | 3.6 | 1.2 | 1.1
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 2 | 2 | 2
SKB | 100 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 252.31 | 252.31 | 252.31

Up tilt | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 11.00 | 11.00 | 11.00
Damage | 6.00 | 6.00 | 6.00
Traj Angle | 100 | 100 | 100
Bone | 18 | 22 | 23
Size | 3.3 | 4.3 | 4.8
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 8 | 8 | 8
SKB | 100 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 331.01 | 331.01 | 331.01

Down tilt | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Ending | 9.00 | 9.00
Damage | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle | 74 | 74
Bone | 9 | 8
Size | 4.8 | 3.8
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 3.0 | 1.6
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 38 | 38
SKB | 54 | 54
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 420.81 | 420.81

Sex Kick | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Frame Starting | 3.00 | 3.00 | 6.00 | 6.00
Frame Ending | 6.00 | 6.00 | 32.00 | 32.00
Damage | 12.00 | 12.00 | 6.00 | 6.00
Traj Angle | 90 | 90 | 80 | 80
Bone | 5 | 9 | 5 | 9
Size | 4.5 | 4.0 | 3.0 | 2.5
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 1.1 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20
SKB | 90 | 90 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 195.01 | 195.01 | 309.58 | 309.58

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Bone | 16 | 15
Size | 5.6 | 3.84
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 3.4 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 30 | 30
SKB | 80 | 80
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 243.30 | 243.30

Back Air | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Frame Starting | 6.00 | 6.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 12.00 | 8.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle |

|

Bone | 9 | 8 | 9 | 8
Size | 4.5 | 4.0 | 4.0 | 5.0
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 4.0 | 1.6 | 4.0 | 1.6
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
BKB | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12
SKB | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 170.01 | 297.525 | 297.525 | 297.525

Up Air | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 5.00 | 5.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 12.00 | 12.00
Damage | 11.00 | 11.00 | 7.0 | 7.0
Traj Angle | 55 | 55 | 55 | 55
Bone | 8 | 9 | 8 | 9
Size | 4.0 | 4.0 | 4.0 | 4.0
X | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 1.2 | 3.2 | 1.2 | 3.2
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
BKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
SKB | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 223.73 | 223.73 | 323.17 | 323.17

Drill (Dair) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 10.00 | 11.00 | 11.00
Frame Ending | 11.00 | 15.00 | 15.00
Damage | 10.00 | 8.00 | 8.00
Traj Angle | 270 |

|

Bone | N/A | 3 | 9
Size | 1.8 | 3.3 | 2.5
X | 2.8 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 1.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 4.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
Hitlag | 2.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
BKB | 20 | 20 | 20
SKB | 80 | 80 | 80
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 328.00 | 283.69 | 283.69

The Poke (FSmash

) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Starting | 12.00 | 12.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 15.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 65 | 65
Bone | 15 | 15
Size | 3.8 | 4.3
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 8.0 | 2.5
Element | Pierce | Pierce
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 20 | 20
SKB | 121 | 121
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 127.81 | 127.81

The Poke (FSmash →) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Starting | 12.00 | 12.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 15.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 53 | 53
Bone | 15 | 15
Size | 3.8 | 4.3
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 8.0 | 2.5
Element | Pierce | Pierce
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 20 | 20
SKB | 116 | 116
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 130.09 | 130.09

The Poke (FSmash

) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 5.00 | 5.00
Frame Starting | 12.00 | 12.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 15.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 45 | 45
Bone | 15 | 15
Size | 3.8 | 4.3
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 8.0 | 2.5
Element | Pierce | Pierce
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 20 | 20
SKB | 117 | 117
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 118.98 | 118.98

Up Smash | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Charge Frame | 7.00 | 7.00
Frame Starting | 9.00 | 9.00
Frame Ending | 14.00 | 14.00
Damage | 14.00 | 12.00
Traj Angle | 110 | 110
Bone | 19 | 3
Size | 4.8 | 4.0
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | -1.2 | 0.0
Z | 2.8 | 4.0
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 35 | 35
SKB | 98 | 98
WKB | 0 | 0
Kill % | 149.89 | 171.30

Down Smash | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3 | Hit Box 4
Charge Frame | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Frame Starting | 6.00 | 6.00 | 14.00 | 14.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 8.00 | 16.00 | 16.00
Damage | 14.00 | 15.00 | 14.00 | 15.00
Traj Angle | 120 | 120 | 50 | 50
Bone | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
Size | 4.5 | 4.0 | 4.5 | 4.0
X | 11.0 | 3.6 | 10.8 | 6.0
Y | 3.6 | 3.6 | 3.6 | 3.6
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 40 | 40 | 40 | 40
SKB | 80 | 80 | 100 | 100
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 172.38 | 162.24 | 137.68 | 129.58

Grabs | Standing Grab | Running Grab | Pivot Grab | Pummel
Frame Starting | 6.00 | 8.00 | 9.00 | 16.00
Frame Ending | 8.00 | 10.00 | 11.00 | 17.00
Damage | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.20

Throws | Up | Down | Forward | Back
Damage | 8.00 | 6.00 | 9.00 | 10.00
Traj Angle | 90 | 80 | 45 | 45
BKB | 70 | 75 | 50 | 80
SKB | 72 | 30 | 65 | 65
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | 244.32 | 709.81 | 272.36 | 196.22

Luigi Hadoken | Hit Box 1
Frame Starting | 17.00
Damage | 6.00
Traj Angle |

Luigi Tornado (ground) | Hit box 1 | Hit box 2 | Hit box 3 | Hit box 4 | Hit box 5 | Hit box 6
Frame Starting | 10.00 | 10.00 | 10.00 | 44.00 | 44.00 | 44.00
Frame Ending | 34.00 | 34.00 | 34.00 | 45.00 | 45.00 | 45.00
Frame Refreshing | 6.00 | 6.00 | 6.00 | N/A | N/A | N/A
Damage | 1.50 | 1.50 | 1.50 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Traj Angle |

|

| 70 | 70 | 90
Bone | N/A | N/A | N/A | 17 | 23 | N/A
Size | 5.0 | 5.0 | 4.0 | 6.0 | 6.0 | 6.0
X | 5.0 | -5.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 10.0 | 10.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 2.0 | 2.0 | 2.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 85 | 80 | 30 | 80 | 80 | 80
SKB | 30 | 30 | 60 | 130 | 130 | 130
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | N/A | N/A | N/A | 261.79 | 261.79 | 245.05

Luigi Tornado (air) | Hit box 1 | Hit box 2 | Hit box 3 | Hit box 4 | Hit box 5 | Hit box 6
Frame Starting | 10.00 | 10.00 | 10.00 | 44.00 | 44.00 | 44.00
Frame Ending | 34.00 | 34.00 | 34.00 | 45.00 | 45.00 | 45.00
Frame Refreshing | 6.00 | 6.00 | 6.00 | N/A | N/A | N/A
Damage | 1.50 | 1.50 | 1.50 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.00
Traj Angle |

|

| 70 | 70 | 90
Bone | N/A | N/A | N/A | 17 | 23 | N/A
Size | 6.0 | 6.0 | 4.5 | 6.0 | 6.0 | 6.0
X | 5.0 | -5.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 10.0 | 10.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 2.0 | 2.0 | 2.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 60 | 60 | 60 | 80 | 80 | 80
SKB | 120 | 120 | 120 | 130 | 130 | 130
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Kill % | N/A | N/A | N/A | 261.79 | 261.79 | 245.05

Shoryuken (Air) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 8.00 | 9.00
Frame Ending | 9.00 |
Damage | 20.00 | 1.00
Traj Angle | 90
Bone | N/A |
Size | 2.2 |
X | 5.5 |
Y | 6.0 |
Z | 0.0 |
Element | Fire | Coin
Hitlag | 1.0
Clash | Yes
BKB | 40
SKB | 66
WKB | 0
Kill % | 149.85 | N/A

Shoryuken (ground) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 8.00 | 9.00
Frame Ending | 9.00 |
Damage | 25.00 | 1.00
Traj Angle | 88 |
Bone | N/A |
Size | 1.7 |
X | 7.0 |
Y | 6.0 |
Z | 0.0 |
Element | Fire | Coin
Hitlag | 1.0
Clash | Yes
BKB | 40 |
SKB | 77 |
WKB | 0 |
Kill % | 104.51 | N/A

Disclaimer : I'm still working on green missile/misfire and i'm 98% sure these numbers aren't right

|
Bone | 18 |
Size | 4.2 |
X | 0.0 |
Y | 0.0 |
Z | 1.0 |
Element | Fire |
Hitlag | 1.2 |
Clash | Yes
BKB | 20 |
SKB | 80 |
WKB | 0 |
Kill % | 236.41

|
Bone | 18 |
Size | 5.5 |
X | 0.0 |
Y | 0.0 |
Z | 0.0 |
Element | Fire | Fire
Hitlag | 1.2 |
Clash | Yes
BKB | 20 |
SKB | 100 |
WKB | 0 |
Kill % | 84.11 |

Floor Attack (missed tech) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 19.00 | 24.00
Frame Ending | 21.00 | 26.00
Damage | 7.00 | 7.00
Traj Angle | 48 | 48
Bone | N/A | N/A
Size | 5.0 | 5.0
X | -10.0 | 10.0
Y | 5.00 | 5.00
Z | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | No | No
BKB | 80 | 80
SKB | 48 | 48
WKB | 0 | 0

|

Bone | N/A | N/A
Size | 4.5 | 4.5
X | -10.0 | 12.0
Y | 4.5 | 4.5
Z | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | No | No
BKB | 60 | 60
SKB | 50 | 50
WKB | 0 | 0

Bouncing FireBall | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 17.00 | 37.00 | 52.00
Frame ending | 37.00 | 52.00 |
Damage | 6.0 | 5.0 | 4.0
Traj Angle |

|

Ice Ball | Hit Box 1
Frame Starting | 26.00
Damage | 4.0
Traj Angle |

| 48

Clothesline Cyclone | Hit box 1 | Hit box 2 | Hit box 3 | Hit box 4
Frame Starting | 20.00 | 20.00 | 20.00 | 64.00
Frame Ending | 44.00 | 44.00 | 44.00 | 65.00
Frame Refreshing | 15.0 | 15.0 | 15.0 | N/A
Damage | 8.0 | 8.0 | 0.0 | 8.0
Traj Angle | 30 | 30 | 40 | 90

|

Burial Header (aerial start) | Hit Box 1
Damage | 8.0
Traj Angle |

Bouncing FireBall | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2 | Hit Box 3
Frame Starting | 17.00 | 37.00 | 52.00
Frame ending | 37.00 | 52.00 |
Damage | 6.0 | 5.0 | 4.0
Traj Angle |

|

Size | 2.4 | 2.4 | 2.4
Element | Fire | Fire | Fire
Hitlag | 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes | Yes
BKB | 7 | 7 | 7
SKB | 25 | 25 | 25
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0

Ice Ball | Hit Box 1
Frame Starting | 26.00
Damage | 4.0
Traj Angle |

There is no found Difference for the Airborne version ATM

| 48
Bone | 0 | 0
Size | 10.0 | 14.0
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 8.5 | 9.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 1.0 | 2.0
Clash | No | Yes
BKB | 100 | 90
SKB | 0 | 120
WKB | 40 | 0

Clothesline Cyclone (ground) | Hit box 1 | Hit box 2 | Hit box 3 | Hit box 4
Frame Starting | 20.00 | 20.00 | 20.00 | 64.00
Frame Ending | 44.00 | 44.00 | 44.00 | 65.00
Frame Refreshing | 15.0 | 15.0 | 15.0 | N/A
Damage | 8.0 | 8.0 | 0.0 | 8.0
Traj Angle | 30 | 30 | 40 | 90
Bone | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Size | 4.5 | 4.5 | 8.0 | 8.0
X | 10.0 | -10.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 8.0 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 12.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 2.0 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 0.5
Clash | Yes | Yes | No | Yes
BKB | 60 | 60 | 20 | 65
SKB | 65 | 65 | 60 | 120
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0

Clothesline Cyclone (air) | Hit box 1 | Hit box 2 | Hit box 3 | Hit box 4
Frame Starting | 20.00 | 20.00 | 20.00 | 64.00
Frame Ending | 44.00 | 44.00 | 44.00 | 65.00
Frame Refreshing | 15.0 | 15.0 | 15.0 | N/A
Damage | 8.0 | 8.0 | 0.0 | 8.0
Traj Angle | 30 | 30 | 40 | 90
Bone | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
Size | 4.5 | 4.5 | 8.0 | 9.0
X | 10.0 | -10.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 8.0 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 12.0
Z | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Hit | Hit | Hit | Hit
Hitlag | 2.0 | 2.0 | 0.0 | 0.5
Clash | Yes | Yes | No | Yes
BKB | 60 | 60 | 20 | 65
SKB | 65 | 65 | 60 | 120
WKB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0

Fiery Jump Punch (ground) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 8.00 | 11.00
Frame Ending | 11.00 |
Damage | 18.00 | 1.00
Traj Angle | 70
Bone | N/A |
Size | 3.8 |
X | 6.4 |
Y | 6.0 |
Z | 0.0 |
Element | Fire | Coin
Hitlag | 1.2
Clash | Yes
BKB | 40
SKB | 66
WKB | 0

Fiery Jump Punch (air) | Hit Box 1 | Hit Box 2
Frame Starting | 8.00 | 9.00
Frame Ending | 9.00 |
Damage | 15.00 | 1.00
Traj Angle | 75
Bone | N/A |
Size | 3.8 |
X | 5.5 |
Y | 6.0 |
Z | 0.0 |
Element | Fire | Coin
Hitlag | 1.0
Clash | Yes
BKB | 55
SKB | 100
WKB | 0

|

Bone | 0 | 0
Size | 7.0 | 7.0
X | 0.0 | 0.0
Y | 6.5 | 6.5
Z | 0.0 | 0.0
Element | Bury | Hit
Hitlag | 0.7 | 1.0
Clash | Yes | Yes
BKB | 40 | 50
SKB | 50 | 80
WKB | 0 | 0

Burial Header (aerial start) | Hit Box 1
Damage | 8.0
Traj Angle |

Bone | 0
Size | 9.0
X | 0.0
Y | 6.0
Z | 0.0
Element | Hit
Hitlag | 0.5
Clash | Yes
BKB | 25
SKB | 25
WKB | 0

Trip|Dash Attack (final hit)| Dtilt
chance | .3 | .35

Air Ground| Dair
ground/air | air
Dair | Hitbox 1

Intangibility| U smash
Frames | 9-14
Bones | 19, 2

Jab Transition| frame
Jab 1 | 6.0
Jab 2 | 7.0

Autocancel | early | late
Nair | 3.0 | 36.0
Fair | 2.0 | 21.0
Bair | 3.0 | 33.0
Uair | 2.0 | 19.0
Dair | 6.0 | 24.0

It's not perfect and until I have more knowledge on reading frame data, green missile remain the mess it is.
Any and all update plans will be on filling the last few missing hitboxes

plans:

adding missing values
version 1.0.5 (this is 1.0.4, however I doubt much if anything has changed)
Expand Misc section
test kill %s manually

Previous updates:
1/19/15 - created thread
1/20/15 - specials and get up attacks added, special thanks, KB values added
1/21/15 - kill % approximations added, mathematical errors and improper labels fixed, stats regarding hitbox placement added, separated complex and simple frame data for easy reading
1/22/15 - general stats were added, improper labels fixed, elements added, hitlag added, air/ground hitbox labels added
1/23/15 - clashing hitboxes, shield damage and tripping data added. More spoilers for ease of viewing. Updates section created
1/24/15 - small corrections
1/25/15 - cool looking arrows added for input direction
2/28/15 - Misc section (old values moved here, added jab transitions, intangibility, Autocancel frames), Fixed missing values of Uair, Customs section added for NSpecial, USpecial, DSpecial ~~(only available in complex frame data style)~~
3/19/15 - grammar fixes, label fixes

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

Hi there!
If you have any questions about anything feel free to post them
I'll try to get to them with in a day

notes to self : DS 256, GUS 242, AUS 246, MFS 226, NS 20E, FS 222-224, FAS 0DB/0E5, GA 106, FAW 10E, T 1AB

Yonder · Jan 20, 2015

It's a WIP, but it's looking polished right now anyways. I'm not much of a connoisseur of frame data, but I can see others appreciate this data. I'll request a sticky, or however it works. I'm new to this mod thing lol.

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

Yonder said:
It's a WIP, but it's looking polished right now anyways. I'm not much of a connoisseur of frame data, but I can see others appreciate this data. I'll request a sticky, or however it works. I'm new to this mod thing lol.

well knock back growths and bases are missing for one and I'll get to them when I can. Hitbox sizes and locations are nice to have when you want to find out why something misses or compare it to something else. But every time I look at Luigi's data for down special... well it aint pretty. Neither is the super jump punch

also congrats on mod, they must have added a bunch of them recently

Yonder · Jan 20, 2015

bluecrow said:
well knock back growths and bases are missing for one and I'll get to them when I can. Hitbox sizes and locations are nice to have when you want to find out why something misses or compare it to something else. But every time I look at Luigi's data for down special... well it aint pretty. Neither is the super jump punch

also congrats on mod, they must have added a bunch of them recently

Guessing the specials aren't complete yet for frame data? None of Luigi's frame data for his specials is stellar I believe [Except start up for Up B], But Up B was designed to be that way anyways, and tornado is for approaches and recovery. But the end frame data is pretty bad for it I think.

Of course though, Luigi's normals are pretty great, with dash attack it appears to be his laggiest at 49 frames cooldown. Mostly offset by the fact that the rest of his moves have at highest 15-17 frames max sides from lingering nair. Combine that with Luigi's landing lag being in the top 10 [I think he's the 8th fastest here] and you got a very speedy attacking character.

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

Yonder said:
Guessing the specials aren't complete yet for frame data?

Specials are either super easy or super difficult, as you have to identify the specials then get the data. due to where I get the data from

Yonder said:
None of Luigi's frame data for his specials is stellar I believe [Except start up for Up B], But Up B was designed to be that way anyways, and tornado is for approaches and recovery. But the end frame data is pretty bad for it I think.

actually his down special appears to come out in 10 frames which isn't bad
green missile when I find it, I'm expecting a joke

Yonder said:
Of course though, Luigi's normals are pretty great, with dash attack it appears to be his laggiest at 49 frames cooldown. Mostly offset by the fact that the rest of his moves have at highest 15-17 frames max sides from lingering nair. Combine that with Luigi's landing lag being in the top 10 [I think he's the 8th fastest here] and you got a very speedy attacking character.

frame 49 is when the hitboxes end, not when the lag ends (still have yet to add that). the only saving grace of dash attack is frame 4 for the first hitbox. I'll have to check for auto link angle, aka best angle in the game

Yonder · Jan 20, 2015

bluecrow said:
Specials are either super easy or super difficult, as you have to identify the specials then get the data. due to where I get the data from

actually his down special appears to come out in 10 frames which isn't bad
green missile when I find it, I'm expecting a joke

frame 49 is when the hitboxes end, not when the lag ends (still have yet to add that). the only saving grace of dash attack is frame 4 for the first hitbox. I'll have to check for auto link angle, aka best angle in the game

I'm surprised about the Down B end lag. I feel like I'm usually dead if I whiff it next to my opponent.

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

Yonder said:
I'm surprised about the Down B end lag. I feel like I'm usually dead if I whiff it next to my opponent.

oh no the end lag is still there, I'm talking about start up

BlueBirdE · Jan 20, 2015

What does BKB, SKB, and WKB stand for? also for jabs on the frame data it says jab 1 starts on frame 2 and ends on frame 4 while jab 2 starts on frame 3. Are you talking about active hitbox? Maybe I'm just confused

Lavani · Jan 20, 2015

BlueBirdE said:
What does BKB, SKB, and WKB stand for? also for jabs on the frame data it says jab 1 starts on frame 2 and ends on frame 4 while jab 2 starts on frame 3. Are you talking about active hitbox? Maybe I'm just confused

BKB = Base knockback
SKB = Apparently scaling knockback? Usually this is labeled as KBG (Knockback Growth), it's how quickly the knockback scales with higher damage.
WKB = Weight based knockback; knockback based on the opponent's weight

BlueBirdE · Jan 20, 2015

Lavani said:
BKB = Base knockback
SKB = Apparently scaling knockback? Usually this is labeled as KBG (Knockback Growth), it's how quickly the knockback scales with higher damage.
WKB = Weight based knockback; knockback based on the opponent's weight

Okay thanks I want to learn how to properly use this information is there thread somewhere on this?

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

BlueBirdE said:
What does BKB, SKB, and WKB stand for? also for jabs on the frame data it says jab 1 starts on frame 2 and ends on frame 4 while jab 2 starts on frame 3. Are you talking about active hitbox? Maybe I'm just confused

hitbox starts on frame 2 and ends on frame 4, you got it, don't worry

BlueBirdE said:
Okay thanks I want to learn how to properly use this information is there thread somewhere on this?

any terms used are put in the legend with the only things not being described is the Sakurai angle and the Auto link angle
also @

Lavani Gurl why you creeping on me?

Lavani · Jan 20, 2015

I go where the frame data goes.

That and this is a board I lurk a lot anyway.

Furret · Jan 20, 2015

Lavani said:
I go where the frame data goes.

That and this is a board I lurk a lot anyway.

and I thought the Luigi boards were nice and secluded

BlueBirdE · Jan 21, 2015

Most important information would be the ending lag and startup correct? I imagine that's how we can learn what we can punish. Also, is the ending lag for moves different on shield than if you whiff or hit the ground? .

Edit: If airdodge frame data can be added I'd appreciate it

Furret · Jan 21, 2015

BlueBirdE said:
Most important information would be the ending lag and startup correct? I imagine that's how we can learn what we can punish. Also, is the ending lag for moves different on shield than if you whiff or hit the ground? .

Edit: If airdodge frame data can be added I'd appreciate it

End lag would require a recording device, which in turn would cost me 150$+ (college life, so not happening)
if you want landing lag there is a separate thread for that http://smashboards.com/threads/all-character-landing-lag-frame-data.371503/ everyone is listed there, you can thank the Japanese for that list
certain moves do have more lag on Shield (called hitlag, exp Luigi's last hit on his dash attack has a hitlag rating of 2.5), haven't added that yet though
I'll look for airdodge. I'm fairly confident I wont find anything, sorry in advance

Lavani · Jan 21, 2015

I think airdodges are consistent across the cast (2?-29f dodge, 31f FAF, autocancel starting from around 36-38f)

1PokeMastr · Jan 22, 2015

I'm curious what these kill damages are based off of

Furret · Jan 22, 2015

1PokeMastr said:
I'm curious what these kill damages are based off of

the simple answer would be combination of assuming the opponent is standing on the ground mid stage and using an equation based off of that. the more complicated answer would be

def get_KO_percent(damage, cumulative_damage, base, growth, angle):
target_distance_modifier = 1.0
my_angle = angle
if my_angle > 360:
my_angle = 40
if my_angle > 180:
my_angle = 360 - my_angle
target_distance_modifier = target_distance_modifier / 0.8
if my_angle > 90:
my_angle = 180 - my_angle
if my_angle < 15:
my_angle = 30 - my_angle
target_distance = 17900
if my_angle >= 60:
target_distance = 2.3204 * my_angle * my_angle - 409.35 * my_angle + 37360
else:
target_distance = 2.1303 * my_angle * my_angle - 35.851 * my_angle + 16013
target_distance *= target_distance_modifier
ko_value = ((target_distance - 100 * base)/(0.07 * growth) - 18) / (2 + damage)
return ko_value - cumulative_damage

this equation has a set distance it needs to send it's opponent before it calls it a kill, and works by turning an angle into the distance needed to travel and then the travel distance and knock back values into a % needed to kill. It's not super accurate to be honest (I mean it considers 88 degrees to be better at killing then 90 and spikes are all considered to be on stage rather then off), but sense all the moves go by the same standard you can get a good idea of what should kill where

TriTails · Jan 23, 2015

Very nice! Respect, I see this takes a lot of time.

Looking foward for another update!

(And holy wow, FJP sweetspot is only for 1 frame!)

Furret · Jan 24, 2015

TriTails said:
Very nice! Respect, I see this takes a lot of time.

Looking foward for another update!

(And holy wow, FJP sweetspot is only for 1 frame!)

I was surprised as well
my work is really gonna slow down though, cause even though I know what I want to get done. I simply of incapable of doing so. I'll get it eventually, but it burns me up I can't get it done now

TriTails · Jan 24, 2015

bluecrow said:
I was surprised as well
my work is really gonna slow down though, cause even though I know what I want to get done. I simply of incapable of doing so. I'll get it eventually, but it burns me up I can't get it done now

Don't worry, can understand that.

And let me quote someone.
'A delayed game is eventually good. But a rushed game is forever bad...' ~Shigeru Miyamoto

Yeah, there are like, 2 versions of that quote.

Furret · Jan 24, 2015

TriTails said:
Don't worry, can understand that.

And let me quote someone.
'A delayed game is eventually good. But a rushed game is forever bad...' ~Shigeru Miyamoto

Yeah, there are like, 2 versions of that quote.

I guess miyamoto never played daikatana

TriTails · Jan 24, 2015

Wait a second. In here, SJP is frame 5. In @Thinkaman 's Frame data, it's frame 7.

Can you look into this?

Lavani · Jan 24, 2015

SJP is frame 8.

@

Furret

Super Jump Punch said:
def game_242():
FrameSpeedMultiplier_0DF(1.250000, )
AsynchronousTimer_0D0(Frame=6.000000, )
FrameSpeedMultiplier_0DF(1.000000, )
Hitbox_026(ID=0x0, GID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Damage=25.000000, Angle=0x58, KBG=0x4D, WKB=0x0, BKB=0x28, Size=1.700000, Z=0.000000, Y=6.000000, X=7.000000, Element=0x5, Tripping=0x0, Hitlag=1.000000, SDI=1.000000, unk_=0x1, unk_=0x1, ShieldDamage=0x0, 0x2, 0x5, 0x3, 0x1, 0x4, )
unk_170(0x12, 0x2100, )
InitExternalSubroutine_14E(0x1A201091, )
End_196()

FrameSpeedMultiplier is a direct multiplier on frame count, so you get 6*1.25=7.5f, rounded up to 8f.

Furret · Jan 25, 2015

Lavani said:
SJP is frame 8.

@ Furret

FrameSpeedMultiplier is a direct multiplier on frame count, so you get 6*1.25=7.5f, rounded up to 8f.

oh smokes I divided, I felt like 5 was too fast

FalKoopa · Jan 25, 2015

Wow, I really appreciate the effort you put into this.

Furret · Jan 25, 2015

FalKoopa said:
Wow, I really appreciate the effort you put into this.

no prob, if anything looks out of place give me shout. I'll take a look

Luigisama · Feb 2, 2015

Not to be negative, but I don't know if I can trust this data since I was once in front of mario like in his face and he did dsmash and it didn't hit. The move went through me and this happened as I was fighting. I've seen the same thing happen to luigi's smash, but I can't remember at the moment certain times when it happened.

Yonder · Feb 3, 2015

This is looking a lot more polished since I last checked, nice work.

Furret · Feb 3, 2015

Yonder said:
This is looking a lot more polished since I last checked, nice work.

thanks, I don't think I'll be updating quickly anymore, been busy with class work and trying to get pit's frame data up and running, but hopefully I can get the misc things in and eventually figure out the stupid forward special

Dakpo · Feb 26, 2015

My body is ready for custom frame data

Furret · Feb 26, 2015

Dakpo said:
My body is ready for custom frame data

reading two more types of green missile... I'm gonna start drinking soon if that's the case. Anyways I suspect my next update to be Saturday or Sunday. Because you asked I'll see what I can do about customs when I'm working on updates (I plan to go through Pit/Dark Pit/Luigi this weekend). Although I really wanted to get the Misc section done

Dakpo · Feb 26, 2015

bluecrow said:
reading two more types of green missile... I'm gonna start drinking soon if that's the case. Anyways I suspect my next update to be Saturday or Sunday. Because you asked I'll see what I can do about customs when I'm working on updates (I plan to go through Pit/Dark Pit/Luigi this weekend). Although I really wanted to get the Misc section done

That would be awesome!

Furret · Feb 28, 2015

Dakpo said:
That would be awesome!

the update's in

Dakpo · Feb 28, 2015

Quick question, why doesn't the standard fireball and ice ball have ending frames?

Furret · Feb 28, 2015

Dakpo said:
Quick question, why doesn't the standard fireball and ice ball have ending frames?

It's hard to tell what frame the game removes the fireball from the screen and it doesn't use the common method in the game files, but in the case of bouncing fireball the game has to change the hit box on certain frames in order for it to have the 6, 5, 4 percent damages in the move so the move actually says where the move's 6% and 5% hits end by saying the 5% and 4% hits start
this is why the end frame for the 4% hit is blank

TL DR It's complicated

Dakpo · Feb 28, 2015

interesting, Is there a part of the data that tells us the first frame we can do another action? aka when the move ends

Furret · Feb 28, 2015

Dakpo said:
interesting, Is there a part of the data that tells us the first frame we can do another action? aka when the move ends

Master core (a compilation of all the frame data files for those who read frame data) has files on what I assumed to be hitboxes, graphics, sounds and something I'm not sure what it is, but it's labeled as expression. Animations are not present so it isn't possible to do so with out something like a set of recordings and they would need to be 60 fps to determine anything

TL DR; I don't have the technology and the files got squat

Dakpo · Mar 1, 2015

thanks for all this information anyways! its super helpful

Data Professor E. Gadd's Research Papers : Frame Data

Long Body Pokémon

Long Body Pokémon

Smashboard's 1st Sole Survivor

Long Body Pokémon

Smashboard's 1st Sole Survivor

Long Body Pokémon

Smashboard's 1st Sole Survivor

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Journeyman

Indigo Destiny

Smash Journeyman

Long Body Pokémon

Indigo Destiny

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Journeyman

Long Body Pokémon

Indigo Destiny

Smash Champion

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Indigo Destiny

Long Body Pokémon

Rainbow Waifu

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Champion

Smashboard's 1st Sole Survivor

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

Long Body Pokémon

Smash Lord

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