nothing should be banned from the game!! why would it be??? if u are good, u can take on everything, plus, all characters are very balanced, so no need to worry
Que? The characters are definatly not on an equal level. Whilst for newbies the tier list doesnt really matter and n00b ganondorf is just as good as n00b falco (probably better, actually) At the top level of play, ie : tournament play the tier list exists for a reason
I forgot though, tires don exits..
but seriously, nothin should be banned, i still dont get why almost everyone complains about smash balls in tournaments, if u were that good, u wouldnt care, not even items should be off, if someone is good, he can win in every condition
Smash balls are an automatic way to rack up huge damage or kill someone, sakurai himself said it was like a personalised hammer. Killing someone by picking up a floating orb, then basically letting your B.A.C.O.N do the work for you displays no skill whatsoever, and therefore there should be no final smash usage in competitive play.
and no, im not just talkin because, i AM good, i do win tournaments, and i can win in every situation, every tournament i went was no items, final destination... WTF???? wheres the fun in that??? everyone can play like that! true smashers, REAL players can play anywhere, with any item, in any conditions
Really? Results thread and vids plz or it didn't happen.
no items, final destination
Im tired of this ****ing streotype. It's a bunch of bull and you know it. FD only is good for like... Falco mains..
FD isnt everyones favorite stage, contrary to popular belief. Especially if you don't play space animals.
Personally I like green greens...
what i had to do was make my own tournaments, with different rules every time. to start with, people always play with lives, but why not timed matches??? that way u cant just run away, u have to fight if u wanna win!! plus theres the sudden death! sudden death is great, but because almost everyone plays lives matches, i barely get a sd anymore
Now you're getting the idea! Host your own tournments, make your own rules! compete with people who WANT to compete in your tournaments
But do NOT expect your style of tournament to become standard. Melee's competitive smashers have grown accustomed to a good set of fair balanced rules and I doubt many of us want to SUDDENLY turn on items, play on ******** stages where you can walk to the border of the screen, and basically change everything we've held sacred since the competitive scene decided to get rid of items. Which was a LONG time ago.
no items??? hell no!!! items ON, and EVERY item, and whats that sh*t of selecting the stage?? nooo! random!!!
and oh boy, were those tournaments enlightening (im not sure if thats spelled correctly XD) there were quite some so-called good players, but when we changed the rules a bit, they just didnt know what to do, they didnt stand a chance, cause they are used to the same safe stuff, as appereantly, most people here. buuuut, the really good ones, where good in every stage, with or without items
Sounds like fun, I would definatly enter one of these tournaments to see how Id do, but I sure as hell wouldn't put my money on the line if hammers and exploding crates were falling every 3 seconds on infinate mountain.
Its random, its not a true demonstration of skill ie: the mastery over the moveset of your character of choice, and your ability to outthink your opponent and subdue him, so Its basically like playing the lottery, and I don't gamble. I enter tournaments and put money in because I know I have a fair chance of winning so long as I use skill to do so. Not a legendary pokemon and a ****load of luck.
for gods sake, we even did a random character tournament!!!! that was only for pretty **** good smashers, cause u had to know at least a bit of every char, and it was fun as hell
Random char tourneys are fun. I agree that a big part of becoming a master of this game is learning the ins and outs of EVERY character and being able to play all of them. Whilst you may only be REALLY good with 3-4 characters, you should know how to play all of them, it teaches you in turn how to fight all the characters.
soo, learn to play in every conditiooon!!!
Please don't preach so much, it's just going to get you flamed by tournament players with shorter tempers than mine. And I'm known for my explosive temper about the competitive scene and how it relates to brawl.
oh, and someone said somethin about pichu being weak... well, im not good with her (or him, i dont know what the hell that is) but i do know a pichu user that would make u change ur mind XD
Whoever he is, if he isn't chudat, Chudat's pichu is better. But pichu still blows compared to the rest of the cast.
The way I see it, you might aswell play pikachu, who I believe can be heavily underrated by most smashers and is quite formidable once you learn to PWN with him
All in all you raise some good points that I agree with, but I cannot stress this enough :
Do not expect YOUR rules to become STANDARD rules. If you wish to host your own tournaments, or organize with people on smashboards who share the same views, then I think thats a fantastic idea.
But alot of us out there including myself dont want to change what we're doing with our competitive rules.
Better to have two different kinds of tournament than try to get everyone to do the same thing like nazis, no?
axemangx said:
Honnestly I think meta will be banned. He seems way too godly
Look, if fox/falco didn't get banned in melee, then metaknight wont be banned in brawl. Fox is WAY too godly in melee.
Thing is, it comes down to skill. Fox is a great character, but if you don't have near perfect tech skill and you miss waveshines, JC grabs, shffls, then a skilled kirby player is going to 3-4 stock you.
The lesser the skill gap betweenst players, the more the tier list applies.
So instead of complaining about a character, just get better. It's that simple.
And what makes metaknight so ''godly'' anyway, the fact that he has wings and a disjointed hitbox?
*cough* Jigglypuff *cough*
I think Pitt's going to be way better than meta. Projectile, multiple jumps, 2 disjointed hitboxes...
but we wont know till brawl comes out. And there wont be any character banning in tournaments, mark my words.
