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Srsly?S Tier: Sanic
F Tier: Everyone Else
True... But Jigglypuff isn't in this gameI wouldn't be surprised if Link and Samus were still in Bottom Tier. Peach, Fox, and Pikachu will probably be relatively high. It is all far too subjective. I think the balancing of Namco will change up some of the perpetual tiers of certain characters. You never know... characters like Jigglypuff were top straight to bottom. So we won't know until we play (obviously).
Jigglypuff was S tier in Melee and Bottom in Brawl. So we don't know if a character like Olimar would drop from Top to Bottom.True... But Jigglypuff isn't in this game
I'm not saying Jigglypuff won't, we actually need more Pokémon characters.you must be insane if you don't think Dr. Jiggles will return in Smash.
You make a lot of good points in this message.Well, there are too many unknowns as of now to succesfully predict the tier list itself in my opinion, although there are some hints. I cannot see normal Link topping the Toon one as of now, for example, because it seems like their moveset(s) didn't change too much, and general global rules didn't change too much neither.
What is more interesting is the question of visibility of imbalances, as in - will we have the next Meta Knight of sorts? Dude's superiority was obvious even in casual play.
I'm hoping a LoZ character will be high tier.
She seems more like a DD tier.Clearly Wii Fit Trainer will be SSS Tier
No! Don't do that! It is so annoying and I like to "earn" my likes. Gosh! Haha.Eh, Link isn't "destined" to be low tier, but the odds of him being high-tier are not that great - I think if he has back semi-spike up+b and faster attacks he could have a good shot at mid-tier, even more so with a solid recovery - just having some high-speed, low-lag options besides (what was) nair in Melee would help him out greatly.
Kirby can totally be high-tier - someone just needs to go into the coding just before release and screw with his up-tilt so it has hitboxes sizes like SSB64. Then add to his weight.
Samus did need a speed boost, but even more so a power boost - couldn't kill until like 120% is a problem when that's a fully charged Charge-Shot... on the lightweights...
Olimar, it probably depends on if his KO power is nerfed - he's light enough that if his smashes don't kill until higher percents, people might be able to win even if they're trading blows like 3 for 2 or even 2 for 1. Part of Olimar was that he could camp and then still KO at like 100% with his ridiculous up-smash.
I'm tempted to start going back through posts and liking every single one that was made by MorbidAltruism. Just for kicks.
Eh, Link isn't "destined" to be low tier, but the odds of him being high-tier are not that great - I think if he has back semi-spike up+b and faster attacks he could have a good shot at mid-tier, even more so with a solid recovery - just having some high-speed, low-lag options besides (what was) nair in Melee would help him out greatly.
Kirby can totally be high-tier - someone just needs to go into the coding just before release and screw with his up-tilt so it has hitboxes sizes like SSB64. Then add to his weight.
Samus did need a speed boost, but even more so a power boost - couldn't kill until like 120% is a problem when that's a fully charged Charge-Shot... on the lightweights...
Olimar, it probably depends on if his KO power is nerfed - he's light enough that if his smashes don't kill until higher percents, people might be able to win even if they're trading blows like 3 for 2 or even 2 for 1. Part of Olimar was that he could camp and then still KO at like 100% with his ridiculous up-smash.
I'm tempted to start going back through posts and liking every single one that was made by MorbidAltruism. Just for kicks.
It's way too early to tell, especially if we're just getting goofy pictures. Though I do expect some things:
That's really it. We can't tell who's been nerfed, but we can tell who's been buffed by Sakurai's comments. If this were the case, Samus, Bowser, Pit, and possibly DK will raise up a few places.
- Bowser and Samus will be higher, at least mid-tier is my guess.
- Pit will be a bit higher than his Brawl incarnation.
I was just basing it off of his statement that DK's current build is really strong from around early September. I know it means nothing at all really, but he has been buffed with even more strength, so I figure he might be higher.I agree. But it is possible to make rough guesses on what we have seen so far and base veterans on pass experience since they don't seem to deviate to far from the tier list of the pass game(s), with some exceptions of course. Also what is this about DK being buffed? I don't recall that ever being mentioned in anyway by Sakurai o.O.
I love this statement, make it happen sakurai!Kirby better be SSSS+ Tier.
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Poor Morbid... everyone has it out for your main. :oJigglypuff was S tier in Melee and Bottom in Brawl. So we don't know if a character like Olimar would drop from Top to Bottom.
Secondly, you must be insane if you don't think Dr. Jiggles will return in Smash.
It is a sarcastic inside joke, haha.You like to earn likes? XD
On topic: I hardly expect Sakurai to actually nerf Pikachu or Fox to the point of below mid-tier - not only are they both fairly iconic, but in Brawl they were each fairly balanced and not broken annoyingly so (Pika's chaingrabs did annoy some, I know) - I think there isn't a reason to nerf them (much), so unless everyone gets substantially better or something fundamental is removed from their games, I would think they stay mid/high-tier.
I am used to it by now, you should have seen how people treated her pre-Toon Link. I still had an adequate defense, but it was relentless.Poor Morbid... everyone has it out for your main. :o
Hm, he gave Kirby a mask, sword, wings, cape, deeper voice, and really annoying spinning moves... seems like your wish already came true. Oh wait Meta Knight only has 2 S letters.Zero2570 said:I love this statement, make it happen sakurai!
Jigglypuff was S tier in Melee and Bottom in Brawl. So we don't know if a character like Olimar would drop from Top to Bottom.
Yep. It's a great way to increase his awareness. For instance, who is MaskO'Gears? He's liked none of my posts..EDIT: Hang on, if I want to increase my like count, all I have to do is post where MorbidAltruism is? Interesting...
lol @ speculating tier list positions before the game is released