Pokemon trainer shield advantage

arbustopachon

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#1
I have started calculating the shield advantage of pkmn trainer, so far i have only finished Squirtle's.
The first number is if the move hits on its first active frame and the second number if it hits on its last active frame, all moves are assumed as fresh.
Finally im not too confident on the aerial numbers, they might be off by a frame or two , if you notice something is off please do tell me so i can correct it.

Edit: Added Charizard.
Edit: Added Ivysaur, couldn't find ac windows for his aerials. Fixed Squirtle's auto cancelled fair and Charizard's jab, somehow managed to add endlag on them instead of substracting it :facepalm:
Edit: Double checked Squirtle now that Ruben's calculator has his frame data. Fixed dash attack, late nair (faf) and landing dair.
Edit: Added safety on shieldrop.
Edit: Updated Charizard's dash attack to 2.0 values.
Edit: Kurogane uploaded Ivysaurs data and included shield safety values, fixed ivysaurs data based on that.


:squirtle:
Jab 1: -11/-10, Shieldrop: 0/+1
Jab 2: -17/-16, Shieldrop: -6/-5
Jab 3: -21/-20, Shieldrop: -10/-9

Dash attack (early): -19/ -16, Shieldrop: -8/-5
Dash attack: -16/-11, Shieldrop: -5/0

f-tilt: -6/-5, Shieldrop: +5/+6
u-tilt: -8/-7, Shieldrop: +3/+4
d-tilt: -12/-7, Shieldrop: -1/+4

f-smash: -18/-17, Shieldrop: -7/-6
u-smash launcher: -43, Shieldrop: -32
u-smash earliest: -35/-34, Shieldrop: -24/-23
u-smash early: -34/-33, Shieldrop: -23/-22
u-smash: -34/-33, Shieldrop: -23/-22
u-smash late: -34/-33, Shieldrop: -23/-22
u-smash latest: -34, Shieldrop: -23
d-smash 1: -13/-12, Shieldrop: -2/-1
d-smash 2: -7/-6, Shieldrop: +4/+5

Nair early (faf): -33/-31, Shieldrop: -22/-20
Nair late (faf): -30/-12, Shieldrop: -19/-1
Nair early (ac): -29/-27, Shieldrop: -18/-16
Nair late (ac): -27/-8, Shieldrop: -16/+3
Nair early (landing): -4, Shieldrop: +7
Nair late (landing): -5, Shieldrop: +6

fair early (faf): -27/-26, Shieldrop: -16/-15
fair late (faf): -25/-18, Shieldrop: -14/-7
fair early (ac): -28/-27, Shieldrop: -17/-16
fair late (ac): -26/-19, Shieldrop: -15/-8
fair early (landing): -3, Shieldrop: +8
fair late (landing): -3, Shieldrop: +8

Bair last hit (faf): -17/-16, Shieldrop: -6/-5
Bair last hit (ac): -5/-4, Shieldrop: +6/+7
Bair last hit (landing): -15, Shieldrop: -4

uair (faf): -21/-17, Shieldrop: -10/-6
uair (ac): -14/-10, Shieldrop: -3/+1
uair (landing): -3, Shieldrop: +8

dair last hit (faf):-19, Shieldrop: -8
dair last hit (ac): -12, Shieldrop: -1
dair last hit (landing): -13, Shieldrop: -2


:charizard:
jab1: -14/-13, Shieldrop: -3/-2
jab 2: -15/-14, Shieldrop: -4/-3
jab 3: -20/-18[, Shieldrop: -10/-7

Dash attack early: -17/-15, Shieldrop: -6/-4
Dash attack late: -16/-9, Shieldrop: -5/+2

f-tilt sweetspot: -15/-13, Shieldrop: -4/-2
f-tilt sour: -19/-17, Shieldrop: -8/-6
u-tilt: -16/-12, Shieldrop: -5/-1
d-tilt: -11/-10, Shieldrop: 0/+1

fsmash (early): -35, Shieldrop: -24
fsmash sweetspot: -34/-33, Shieldrop: -23/-22
fsmash sour: -36/-35, Shieldrop: -25/-24
u-smash: -24/-17, Shieldrop: -13/-6
d-smash: -35/-33, Shieldrop: -24/-22

Nair sweetspot (faf): -26/-15, Shieldrop: -15/-4
Nair sour (faf): -27/-16, Shieldrop: -16/-5
Nair sweetspot (ac): -21/-10, Shieldrop: -10/+1
Nair sour (ac): -22/-11, Shieldrop: -11/0
Nair sweetspot (landing): -8, Shieldrop: +3
Nair sour (landing): -9, Shieldrop: +2

Fair early (faf): -33/-32, Shieldrop: -22/-23
Fair late (faf): -31/-30, Shieldrop: -20/-19
Fair early (ac): -25/-24, Shieldrop: -14/-13
Fair late (ac): -23/-22, Shieldrop: -12/-11
Fair early (landing): -14, Shieldrop: -3
fair late (landing): -14, Shieldrop: -3

bair sweetspot (faf): -25/-23, Shieldrop: -14/-13
bair (faf): -26/-24, Shieldrop: -15/-13
bair sour (faf): -26/-24, Shieldrop: -15/-13
bair sweetspot (ac): -27/-25, Shieldrop: -16/-14
bair (ac): -28/-26, Shieldrop: -17/-15
bair sour (ac): -28/-26, Shieldrop: -17/-15
bair sweetspot (landing): -14, Shieldrop: -3
bair (landing): -15, Shieldrop: -4
bair sour (landing): -15, Shieldrop: -4

uair (faf): -28/-25, Shieldrop: -17/-14
uair (ac): -27/-24, Shieldrop: -16/-13
uair (landing):-8, Shieldrop: +3

dair (faf): -28/-26, Shieldrop: -17/-15
dair late (faf): -26/-21, Shieldrop: -15/-10
dair (ac): -21/-19, Shieldrop: -10/-8
dair late (ac): -19/-14, Shieldrop: -8/-3
dair (landing): -16, Shieldrop: -5

:ivysaur:
Jab 1: -17/-16, Shieldrop: -6/-5
Jab 2: -19/-18, Shieldrop: -8/-7
Ender: -32/-31, Shieldrop: -21/-20

Dash attack:-27/-20, Shieldrop: -16/-9
Dash attack (late): -21/-14, Shieldrop: -10/-3

f-tilt: -20, Shieldrop: -9
d-tilt: -20/-18, Shieldrop: -9/-7
u-tilt: -18/-12, Shieldrop: -7/-1

f-smash: -33/-28, Shieldrop: -22/-17
u-smash: -21/-18, Shieldrop: -10/-7
d-smash (sweet): -22/-21, Shieldrop: -11/-10
d-smash: -23/-22, Shieldrop: -12/-11
d-smash(sour): -25/24, Shieldrop: -14/-13

nair (faf): -10/-9, Shieldrop: +1/+2
nair (landing): -14, Shieldrop: -3
nair(ac): -11/-10, Shieldrop: 0/+1

fair (faf): -28/-24, Shieldrop: -17/-13
fair (landing): -8, Shieldrop: +3
fair(ac): -15/-11, Shieldrop: -4/0

bair1 (faf): -33/-31, Shieldrop: -22/-20
bair2 (faf): -26/-24, Shieldrop: -15/-13
bair1 (landing): -5, Shieldrop: +6
bair2 (landing): -4, Shieldrop: +7
bair1 (ac): -34/-32, Shieldrop: -23/-21
bair2 (ac): -25/-23, Shieldrop: -14/-12

uair (faf): -32/-31, Shieldrop: -21/-20
uair (landing): -5, Shieldrop: +6
uair (ac): -17/-16, Shieldrop: -6/-7

dair (faf): -47/-46, Shieldrop: -36/-35
dair (landing): -9, Shieldrop: +2
dair (ac): -33/-32, Shieldrop: -22/-21
 
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