Pocketed Cannonball Oddity

[LGameTales]

Hopefully this is a special case, but in this video, Isabelle pockets K. Rool's cannonball and it disappears from her pocket when he spawns a new one!

We've seen in Villager dittos that Villager can still pocket another's Lloid and keep it even if the other Villager spawns a new one, but if stealing back one-only items is a thing, then we can't effectively remove something like banana from play like Villager could in Smash 4...

 

[LGameTales]

I've found footage of Link trying to spawn a new bomb while its pocketed, and it plain doesn't work!

Surely and hopefully this will happen with banana too.

 

[Fell God]

Perhaps it's because Link's bomb takes longer to de-spawn? K. Rool's cannonballs don't travel the entire stage before they vanish, only around for a couple of seconds, if that. On the other hand, Link's bombs stay around for a really long time, perhaps it just hasn't de-spawned inside the pocket. It's possible that items and projectiles may now de-spawn within the pocket rather than being essentially frozen in time. That's my only theory.

 

[LGameTales]

That's a good theory!

What I was thinking was that it might be a special case since K. Rool can't have two cannonballs out at once, but at the same time, there's no fail animation for him trying. If he has a cannonball out and he presses B, it goes straight into the vacuum portion. So the game may see that no cannonball is in play and allows K. Rool to shoot another, which needs to steal it from the pocket so that only one from the same character exist at a time.

I think Occam's razor would nod to your theory. I guess we'll see when the game releases. I'm just glad we may still be able to steal banana.

 

[Fell God]

That's a good theory!

What I was thinking was that it might be a special case since K. Rool can't have two cannonballs out at once, but at the same time, there's no fail animation for him trying. If he has a cannonball out and he presses B, it goes straight into the vacuum portion. So the game may see that no cannonball is in play and allows K. Rool to shoot another, which needs to steal it from the pocket so that only one from the same character exist at a time.

I think Occam's razor would nod to your theory. I guess we'll see when the game releases. I'm just glad we may still be able to steal banana.

I suppose this will warrant some testing post launch (it's even possible that Isabelle's pocket may work differently from the mayor's in this regard) but for now I guess we'll have to wait and theorize.