I get what you're saying, but look at WHO is voting for me and WHY. Third until recently only said he was suspicious of me without really saying why.
I'm leaning towards Seph as Scum.
Hey look, you could have asked for an elaboration earlier! But now that you're on rope, you're pointing it out! I thought I made it pretty obvious, so I'll just state it flat-out: Your behavior to Z25 this whole game reads as opportunistic.
I see you're asking me to clarify. I should clarify what I mean by "Interesting". "Interesting" meant worth of note to re-look at
so everyone gander for these particular posts when Seph flips, but, now that the the dust has settled, since I said I was going to wait for your reads list elaboration and I was trying to wait and see what Z25 and Shish would say - I have both of these items now, so, I feel comfortable to this.
I don't like your beginning Day 0 WIFOM on
Z25
. Nabe's initial post started and was trying to get reads, but, honestly, your pushing of it just read as a whole distraction to keep the rest of us away from actually getting anything done with the roles. Plus it reads to me as buddying up with Nabe. None of that interaction reads Town and Town to me - Maybe I'm not used to how you all play, but
Maven89
and I spent a pretty good deal of time yelling with flashing lights "GUYS IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OVER THE JAILER."
But let's continue, shall we? I won't be making the same case that
Sephiroth's 200-300
yawn
anything I thought was interesting already got pointed out by Vult. Now here's the fun stuff:
#307 - I find it interesting how he seems to have some scum read on me at this point and chooses to keep it quiet. His thoughts on Maven make sense, but, his thoughts on me, from my pov, I find amusing, to say the least.
#308 - Pointed out J's lurking habits and that's it.
giraffelasergun
Can we get a J prod?
#366 - You really don't like the way things are moving? Why is that? Because you're the Lynch target?
#374 - His post against Vult defending himself makes more sense. Rest is just a bunch of Meta comments but I agree with him there.
#375 - Linguistics over here, but, I'm taking it you thought the vote was too opportunistic? Easily pressured could mean Town nervous about dying too, but, opportunistic is more a scum tactic.
I'm going to wait for his reads elaboration. I'm curious to see where his reads list is going or if it's just
OMGUS and Sheeping.
#307 - Again, you're keeping this quiet until you can try to get other buddies on board with me. You didn't actively act on it
especially when I've been waving my lights saying "We have a deadline".
#366 - Yeah, and you really don't like the way things are moving? Because information is bad for the town?
#375 - Linguistics matter here, but, you never clarified. This reads even more than Nabe's initial post (which, Nabe's initial post on Z25 was just trying to get conversation started, and it did a good job even though I still stick with my opinion on it.
But, let's continue with you elaborating these reads. Are they OMGUS, or are they an actual argument?
SCUM LEAN
2. Vult Redux: His opening post seemed like he was stretching for a push. I feel like he doesn't really have reason to push for me, just that I'm a target. I dunno if he's doing so to garner reads on others or if he's just trying to push a lynch.
Okay, which opening post? If we go by #132 where he says he hasn't caught up on the roles, he thought hammering was in the game.
If we go by once Day 1 started, he had #227, #229, and #252 before he mentioned you. He was far more focused on engaging with
Fire Emblemier
,
#HBC | Nabe
and I about various role choices, Day 0 stuff, and clearing up various things. You asked him for your thoughts on you and then he votes you.
So... his real opening post you're referring to, #258, which is his fifth post of the game, is where he got a good look at the thread and came up with a good reason to vote you.
I'm calling bull**** on this but let's continue!
SCUM
1. shishœ: His vote on me was very suspect and I didn't like it at all. he's my #2 scumpick atm.
...okay? Yeah, and, it was a vote. This same type of pressuring is what pressured Z25 to vote in the first place. I'm kind-of impressed your #2 pick from Scum is that early. If you had more of a reason to vote him, sure? I read through all of his posts, and, here's actually what I came across:
Do not trust like that
Each post of yours makes me lean more toward Vult's side. Really liking your reaction.
A valid point on his with quoting those posts that ISN'T sheeping. Awesome! What then happens a few posts later?
@Shishœ +1 endorsement of this post.
Would be astonished if
Vult Redux
disagrees. And
Thirdkoopa
for that matter.
And then you sheep it because Nabe said it. Because it takes suspicion away from your posts that Shishoe so kindly posted out. Even if you already responded to it with Vult, it wouldn't have hurt to link, especially since Shishoe said
he didn't pay attention to see Nabe/Pokechu/I bussing each other in the last game.
6. ThirdKoopa: Like I said about him earlier, his post pregame felt really forced and unnatural and his responses weren't anything to be desired either.
Yeah, and what about my pregame? Of course you'll say nothing about that because it doesn't put me on the rope as easily, amirite? It's interesting how you only had things to say about me once the day phase starts.
My post-pregame is me answering stuff. If I'm to be real, most of my posts have been me trying to wave the inactives in here or get people into discussion and basically just back and forthing with Nabe. The former seems to have worked thanks to Vult and I. The latter, well, I don't feel Nabe's and my Linguistics Discussion went anywhere, but, everyone else is welcome to pick it apart. They're boring. I'm bored by looking at my post ISO's. I don't think he's as town read as I was originally anticipating (Vult Redux, that is), but hey, at least he's making **** start.
10. Z25: I feel like it's a dumb or scum moment (did that phrase dye out?) He has been very inconsistant with his reasoning. It feels like he's always making something up to cover for what he's said in the past. Honestly getting rid of him will make the game less of a headache later on.
...iunno, we may just be reading different games in here, but, he's pretty consistent to me. This feels like his play in the past game (and the only other game I have experience with him in).
y'know he claimed as you posted that reads list right? Unless your reads list took you 15 minutes. It's kind of amazing how quickly he went from Scum Read to "Y'know he reads Derp Town"
I know we don't have a lot of time, but I'd be willing to lynch any of these 3 today: Shishoe, Third, Vult. I feel like Vult would give us the most information, but I don't think town is ready for it.
horrah, more OMGUS. What information do you think a Vult flip even give us? There's no elaboration in here.
Vote: Sephiroth for the information. Most other possibilities aren't screaming to me and I don't think the town is ready to put Nabe on pressure, nor do I really care about pursuing Shishoe until anyone chooses to draw a case to him that isn't "oh hey he voted seph funny"
Reads:
Nabe or Seph are scum. If they're both not, congratulations on all the wine you served.
J/Fire Emblemier/Moydoy are the quiet trio.
Shish reads town.
Z25 reads town - Nabe and Seph both pegging on him really does not scream "All of them are Town" to me.
Maven's my biggest town read ATM.
Fandangox could go either way. I'm thinking he's Town if Nabe is Scum, and he's Scum if Seph is scum.
Don't have enough info on Chu but I know what he's capable of.
I haven't had a response out of Kantrip, but, I want to see what he says to all of this.
Vult's a slight town read.
