Patch Notes Thread (Upcoming: 1.1.3)

[Neo Zero]

So with the Direct Broadcast coming up, I thought now would be a good time to touch upon this subject.

Thinkaman @Dantarion and anyone else interested, I'd like to discuss how patch notes should go. While this isn't necessarily a 4BR project (as many of you will likely do work on content and updates from any changes anyway), I do feel this is a good opportunity to help put out a comprehensive listing.

I mentioned this before, but I'd like to see two threads in the Comp section when the patch drops (whether that's next week or not), one for Official Notes (only those with special posting permissions can post in it) and a discussion thread for everything else.

As well, as a 4BR unit, I'd like to perhaps look into a project to help better showcase anything to people, alongside any patch note thread (perhaps a changelog video or something?). Thoughts?

 

[NickRiddle]

Vitamin ZK always do videos of every change once they're 100% confirmed.
Maybe make a locked thread for the data-miners to post what they find, and then a discussion thread where everybody else can post their incorrect placebo changes? Then once the changes are confirmed, change the OP to reflect the real information.

 

[Gunla]

Vitamin ZK always do videos of every change once they're 100% confirmed.
Maybe make a locked thread for the data-miners to post what they find, and then a discussion thread where everybody else can post their incorrect placebo changes? Then once the changes are confirmed, change the OP to reflect the real information.

Absolutely in agreement with this; having a nice, clean thread where people can view changes, and then a discussion thread on the side sounds like a good plan.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Having a locked thread with confirmed changes sounds good.

Mostly the big issue is the whole placebo posting that should be removed.

 

[Thinkaman]

What is the easiest way to make a whitelist of people who can post in a thread? I have a pretty firm idea of the ~15 or so people who have historically be engaged in those discussions with a history of accurate information.

 

[Neo Zero]

What is the easiest way to make a whitelist of people who can post in a thread? I have a pretty firm idea of the ~15 or so people who have historically be engaged in those discussions with a history of accurate information.

Post them here, I can likely make it happen, we did something similar back when Smash 3DS came out in Japan and certain users got special posting privileges.

Xiivi that's not a problem right?

 

[Xiivi]

That is fine.

 

[Neo Zero]

Thinkaman you're likely aware, but Datamining is already going on. 99.9% likely the Cloud patch is tomorrow. Do you need any help preparing? I can also set up the permissions for your white list.

 

[NickRiddle]

Cloud confirmed for tomorrow hype!
I'm so upset I'm going to be out of town for 3 days afterwards...

 

[Thinkaman]

The whitelist should be all moderators (of any assigned board), all 4BRs members, and the following people who were positive contributors of direct data to the previous patch thread:

@DanGR
@Dantarion
@Indigo Jeans
@KuroganeHammer
@Lavani
@Locke 06
@LordWilliam1234
@Methacrylate
@Nobie
@sonicbrawler182
@Ulevo
@Vipermoon64
@Zapp Branniglenn

If there's no easy way to add mods, here's a list of the important contributors:
@Big O
@Ffamran
@Fox Is Openly Deceptive
Gunla
@Mario & Sonic Guy
@Meru.
san.
@Shaya
@TheReflexWonder
Thinkaman
@ぱみゅう

I have both topics written up, ready to post. I'm going to post them directly into Competitive Discussion, locked; this will avoid people making their own threads, especially if we get caught with our pants down.

I'll push that button as soon as I get a go ahead, or as soon as any patch info lands.

 

[Neo Zero]

The whitelist should be all moderators (of any assigned board), all 4BRs members, and the following people who were positive contributors of direct data to the previous patch thread:

@DanGR
@Dantarion
@Indigo Jeans
@KuroganeHammer
@Lavini
@Locke 06
@LordWilliam1234
@Methacrylate
@Nobie
@sonicbrawler182
@Ulevo
@Vipermoon64
@Zapp Branniglenn

If there's no easy way to add mods, here's a list of the important contributors:
@Big O
@Ffamran
@Fox Is Openly Deceptive
Gunla
@Mario & Sonic Guy
@Meru.
san.
@Shaya
@TheReflexWonder
Thinkaman
@ぱみゅう

I have both topics written up, ready to post. I'm going to post them directly into Competitive Discussion, locked; this will avoid people making their own threads, especially if we get caught with our pants down.

I'll push that button as soon as I get a go ahead, or as soon as any patch info lands.

I'll be setting the white list permissions soon (or maybe Xiivi , since he has experience inserting the proper permissions). Maybe not all mods though as that isn't a pass to really be verified in this situation. 4BR and your personal trusted members should be fine though.

This isn't related strictly to us of course, but I hope anyone posting in the pure patch thread only posts informative verified notes (i doubt I need to worry about that though). You can probably run the discussion thread looser than past patch threads as well given the information will be kept seperate, but that of course is up to your own discretion. If you need any help beyond that, let me know soon.

 

[Thinkaman]

The patch notes thread is live but locked.

So is the discussion thread.

 

[John12346]

Thinkaman

"50% = confirms all hitbox/projectile and FSM changes, does not include FAF timings or unexpected parameter adjustments"

So, of the things that aren't included in this changelog yet, that would be FAFs, but would that also include landing lag adjustments too (I doubt there are too many, if any, but...)? Does that also account for the startup times of attacks? What kinds of changes would fall into 'unexpected parameter changes,' too? Something like the properties of a hitbox changing, like if Mario's Fsmash suddenly started doing electric damage? Any other types of changes like that?

Sorry if that's way too many questions, eh heh...

Also I guess I should be the first to note this but NO SHEIK CHANGES AGAIN C'MON
(I know there still might be some changes waiting in the wings but this is very discouraging, to say the least)

 

[Thinkaman]

Correct; landing lag and any FAF, and certain oddball numbers controlling how special work are in a separate file.

ANYTHING involving hitboxes should be done.

 

[NickRiddle]

So start-up is also in the 50%?
Sweet.

 

[Locuan]

Permissions already set for the Patch Note Thread on WiiU/3DS competitive. No need to worry about that Neo Zero .

 

[san.]

This is being handled very well so far. Well done!

 

[M@v]

More robin buffs yussssssss

 

[NickRiddle]

Just curious on the Bowser change.
Is "final hitbox" the splash damage that hits people who are near Bowser at the end of his throw?

 

[Camalange]

Sonic survived another patch.

#blessed