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Patch 1.1.6 incoming!

JosePollo

JosePollo

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Messages
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If you haven't read yet (http://smashboards.com/threads/super-smash-bros-for-3ds-wii-u-patch-1-1-6-incoming.436788/), Nintendo of Japan annouced we'll be getting patch 1.1.6 sometime this month. It's gonna be pretty big, too (61 MB for WiiU and 325 MB for 3DS--stage ports, +new music, maybe?) if Nintendo has even bothered to mention it, considering they didn't really do that for previous non-DLC patches. Lucas hasn't gotten much in recent patches after the nair buff (or nerf, depending on how you see it), so maybe this time around we'll see our momma's boy get a bit of love from the Big N. My hopes are:
  • if they're going to fix the way fair is programmed (where they effed up the staling of the move after frame 10) that they make it at least auto-cancel before frame 34. Nair auto-cancel under 34 would also be amazing, but I'm not holding my breath for that, at all.
  • knockback growth reduction on frame 26 of nair to somewhere under 120 or so.
  • some character attribute buffs (a la Lucario and Mewtwo), mainly lower gravity (maybe from 0.09 to like 0.08) so we can have longer air time without changing his falling speed. If individual auto-cancels aren't going to be altered, then I'd want for him to have at least 35 frames of air time (which gives us nair, which is the most important aerial we have).
  • two extra frames of invincibility on up smash, although they'd also have to push the charge frame forward slightly, then apply FrameSpeedMultipliers on start-up and after frame 6 to keep the overall duration the same, so this one's basically a pipe dream.
  • jabs 1 and 2 interruptible as soon as frame 18. It still doesn't guarantee anything off of jab cancels, but those two extra frames can be crucial considering how little hitstun his jabs actually cause. This one is mainly so that jab isn't directly out-classed by down tilt, although the buff would still be pretty marginal.
  • down smash to be able to hit the same target more than once, but that one is clearly intentional given they added a data bit to the attack specifically to keep it from doing so. And Lucas's down smash is the only instance in the game where said data bit happens.
  • and, oh yeah, f-smash to be reflective 9-21, instead of 10-19. 9-21 would be right after the charge frame through the last frame where the action lines of the swing are visible.
I dunno whether to be excited or apprehensive for this patch, though. I really don't want them to fix fair, but they clearly made a mistake programming the data for it, which sucks because what they most likely intended (sweetspot 9-10, sourspot 9-12, going from 9% to 6% 11-12) makes the move a lot worse in terms of being able to wall out non-disjoints. And Lucas already has a problem with range, so this would effectively remove what little range he has in the air to zair/PK Fire and 2 sweetspot frames of fair.

Anyway, what are your hopes and predictions for patch 1.1.6?
 
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Breeze~

Breeze~

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Hopes for 1.1.6 Lucas

- UAir as a larger hitbox, has more active frames and is frame 6
- FAir auto cancels from short hop, has slightly longer reach and is frame 7
- 2x SDI multiplier on NAir reduced and can auto cancel from short hop
- DAir has decreased start up (not sure what though) and better auto cancel frames
- Up Smash has more invincibility frames, and can pull opponents from the ledge into the sweet spot
- Up Smash stronger (either strongest in game or second strongest)
- Down Smash can hit multiple times
- PK Thunder has less end lag

Not gonna get my hopes up, since I've been disappointed in the past, but we'll have to wait and see...
 
JosePollo

JosePollo

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Breeze~ said:
Hopes for 1.1.6 Lucas

- UAir as a larger hitbox, has more active frames and is frame 6
Click to expand...
If only...
Furil said:
It would look gorgeous :>
So majestic.
Click to expand...
Also, your ideas sound a lot similar to what I've had in mind:
Weight: 94
Run speed: 1.5
Walk speed: 0.85
Air speed: 1.1
Fall speed: 1.37
Air acceleration: 0.085 → 0.9
Gravity: 0.09 → 0.085
Max jumps: 2
Wall cling/jump: no/no
Crawl: no
Tether: yes
Jumpsquat: 5 → 4 frames
Soft/hard landing lag: 2/5 → 2/4 frames


– Jab 1 –
IASA: frame 20 → 18
Transition to jab 2: frame 7 (jab 2 starts frame 8)
Jab 1 loop: frame 19 → 11 (jab 1 starts frame 12)

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 2
BHitbox(ID=0x0,Bone=0x8, Part=0x0, Damage=2.5, Angle=0x1e, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x1e, KBG=0x64, Size=2.8, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1,Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Damage=2.5, Angle=0x42, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x12, KBG=0x64, Size=2.8, X=2.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x0,Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Damage=2.5, Angle=0x57, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x10, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=6.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
RemoveAllHitboxes()
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(19.0)#frame 19
?SetBit(0x21000013)
End()

Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 2
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x8, Bone=0x0, Dmg=2.5, Angle=0x1e, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x1e, KBG=0x64, Size=2.8, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Bone=0x0, Dmg=2.5, Angle=0x42, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x12, KBG=0x64, Size=2.8, X=2.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Bone=0x0, Dmg=2.5, Angle=0x57, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x10, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=6.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 5
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
?SetBit(0x21000013)
End( )

Data changes:
-1.0 → 0.7 hitlag

– Jab 2 –
IASA: frame 20 → 18
Transition to jab 3: frame 7 (jab 3 starts frame 8)
Jab 1 loop: 19 → 11 (jab 1 starts frame 12)

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 3
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x8, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x1e, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x1e, KBG=0x64, Size=3.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x46, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x12, KBG=0x64, Size=3.2, X=2.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x58, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x10, KBG=0x64, Size=4.2, X=6.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(19.0)#frame 19
?SetBit(0x21000013)
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 3
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x8, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.5, Angle=0x1e, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x1e, KBG=0x64, Size=3.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.5, Angle=0x46, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x12, KBG=0x64, Size=3.2, X=2.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.5, Angle=0x58, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x10, KBG=0x64, Size=4.2, X=6.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 6
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
?SetBit(0x21000013)
End( )

Data changes:
-2.0% → 2.5% damage
-1.0 → 0.7 hitlag

– Jab 3 –
IASA: frame 30

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x4, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x30, BKB=0x50, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=3.0, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=01)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x5, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x30, BKB=0x50, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=3.0, X=2.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x5, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x30, BKB=0x50, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=5.0, X=6.0, Y=0.0, Z=-2.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(9.0)#frame 9
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x4, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x20, BKB=0x2e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.0, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x5, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x20, BKB=0x2e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.0, X=2.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x5, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x20, BKB=0x2e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.0, X=6.0, Y=0.0, Z=-2.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 9
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Data changes:
-4.0% → 3.0% damage (jab combo now goes 2.5%, 5.0%, 8.0%–previously 2.5%, 4.5%, 8.5%)
-Launch angle 48° → 32°
-60 BKB/80 KBG → 46 BKB/100 KBG


– Dash attack –
IASA: 39 → 34

Original data:
FrameSpeedMultiplier(0.8)
AsynchronousTimer(17.0)#frame 17
FrameSpeedMultiplier(1.0)
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=9.0, Angle=0x4b, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=4c, Size=2.5, X=0.0, Y=5.5, Z=1.2, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=13.0, Angle=0x2e, BKB=3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=46, Size=5.8, X=0.0, Y=5.5, Z=12.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.2, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 19
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(14.0)#frame 14
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=10.0, Angle=0x50 BKB=0x3a, FKB=0x0, KBG=50, Size=2.5, X=0.0, Y=5.5, Z=1.2, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=13.0, Angle=0x28, BKB=0x3a, FKB=0x0, KBG=50, Size=5.8, X=0.0, Y=5.5, Z=12.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.2, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 16
Hitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.5, Angle=0x2d, BKB=0x3a, FKB=0x0, KBG=50, Size=5.8, X=0.0, Y=5.5, Z=15.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
RemoveHitbox(0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 18
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Data changes:
-Sourspot: active 15-16 → 14-15
-Sourspot: 9.0% → 10.0% damage
-Sourspot: launch angle 75° → 80°
-Sourspot: 60 BKB/76 KBG → 58 BKB/80 KBG
-Sourspot: electric-type → normal “hit” effect
-Sourspot: 1.0 → 0.7 hitlag
-Sweetspot: active 15-16 → 14-17; split into a clean and late hit (14-15, 16-17)
-Sweetspot: 13.0% clean → 11.5% late
-Sweetspot: clean launch angle 46° → 40°; late launch angle 45°
-Sweetspot (clean & late): 60 BKB/70 KBG → 58 BKB/80 KBG
-Sweetspot: Z=12.0 clean → Z=15.5 late
-Sweetspot: 1.2 hitlag clean → 1.0 hitlag late
-Sweetspot (clean & late): clang=0x1 → 0x0 (clankable → transcendent)

– Forward tilt (high) –
IASA: 26 → 25

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x16, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=2.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4b, Size=4.4, X=0.0, Y=9.0, Z=8.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x16, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=2.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.4, X=0.0, Y=9.0, Z=8.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.2, X=0.0, Y=9.7, Z=9.2, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Data changes:
-Active 7-10 → 6-9
-Sourspot: 1.0 → 0.7 hitlag
-Sweetspot: 30 BKB/60 KBG → 32 BKB/90 KBG
-Sweetspot: hitbox size 4.4 early → 4.2 late
-Sweetspot: Y=9.0 early → 9.7 late, Z=8.5 early → 9.2 late

– Forward tilt (mid) –
IASA: 26 → 25

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x16, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=2.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4b, Size=4.4, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Z=9.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x16, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=2.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.4, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Z=9.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.2, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Z=10.2, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Data changes:
-Active 7-10 → 6-9
-Sourspot: 1.0 → 0.7 hitlag
-Sweetspot: 30 BKB/60 KBG → 32 BKB/90 KBG
-Sweetspot: hitbox size 4.4 early → 4.2 late
-Sweetspot: Z=9.5 early → 10.2 late

– Forward tilt (low) –
IASA: 26 → 25

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x16, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=2.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4b, Size=4.4, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=8.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x16, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=2.2, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=10.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4b, Size=4.4, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=8.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=10.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4b, Size=4.2, X=0.0, Y=0.3, Z=9.2, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Data changes:
-Active 7-10 → 6-9
-Launch angle 361° → 0°
-Sourspot: 7.5% → 7.0% damage
-Sourspot: 1.0 → 0.7 hitlag
-Sweetspot: 11.0% → 10.5% damage
-Sweetspot: 30 BKB/60 KBG → 32 BKB/75 KBG
-Sweetspot: hitbox size 4.4 early → 4.2 late
-Sweetspot: Y=1.0 early → 0.3 late, Z=8.5 early → 9.2 late

– Up tilt –
IASA: frame 37 → 35

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(4.0)#frame 4
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=1.5, Angle=0x78, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x3c, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=0.0, Y=6.0, Z=6.5, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=1.5, Angle=0x78, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x3c, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=0.0, Y=6.0, Z=-6.5, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(7.0))#frame 7
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Part=0x0, Bone=0x9, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x5d, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.5, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=0.5, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Part=0x0, Bone=0x9, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x5d, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=0.0, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=0.5, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Part=0x0, Bone=0x9, Dmg=5.0, Angle=0x5a, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.2, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
RemoveHitbox(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(15.0)#frame 15
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 3
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x78, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x3c, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=0.0, Y=6.0, Z=6.5, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x78, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x3c, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=0.0, Y=6.0, Z=-6.5, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(7.0))#frame 7
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Part=0x0, Bone=0x9, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x5d, BKB=0x26, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x78, Size=5.5, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=0.5, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Part=0x0, Bone=0x9, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x5d, BKB=0x26, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x78, Size=0.0, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=0.5, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)#frame 11
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Part=0x0, Bone=0x9, Dmg=5.0, Angle=0x5a, BKB=0x26, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.2, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
RemoveHitbox(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(15.0)#frame 15
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Data changes:
-1st hit: hitboxes active 4 → 3-4
-1st hit: 1.5% → 2.0% damage
-1st hit: clang=0x0 → 0x1 (transcendent → clankable; rebound stays 0x0)
-2nd hit: 50 BKB/100 KBG → 38 BKB/120 KBG
-2nd hit, hitbox 0x1: normal “hit” effect → electric-type
-3rd hit: 50 BKB → 38 BKB


– Down tilt –
IASA: frame 16

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 3
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x4c, BKB=0x12, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x32, Size=2.8, X=0.0, Y=3.5, Z=3.5, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=0.4, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x28, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x2d, Size=2.8, X=3.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=0.4, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x0, BKB=0x8, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x28, Size=2.8, X=7.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=0.4, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
unk_853CD75E(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 3
****box(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x50, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x32, Size=2.8, X=0.0, Y=3.5, Z=3.5, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=0.4, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x2d, BKB=0xf, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x2d, Size=2.8, X=3.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=0.4, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x0, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x28, Size=2.8, X=7.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=0.4, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
unk_853CD75E(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Data changes:
-Hitbox 0x0: launch angle 76° → 80°
-Hitbox 0x0: 18 BKB → 20 BKB
-Hitbox 0x1: launch angle 40° → 45°
-Hitbox 0x1: 10 BKB → 15 BKB
-Hitbox 0x2: 8 BKB → 10 BKB


– Forward smash –
IASA: 47 → 54
Charge: frame 8
Reflective: 10-19 → 9-21

Original data:
unk_96114CFC(0x0, 0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
?SetBit(0x2100001b)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(14.0)#frame 14
****box(0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=14.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x58, Size=3.7, X=0.0, Y=5.6, Z=7.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
****box(0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=15.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x58, Size=3.7, X=0.0, Y=5.6, Z=13.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.2, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(16.0)#frame 16
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
?SetBit(0x2100000e)
End( )


Modified data:
unk_96114CFC(0x0, 0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
?SetBit(0x2100001b)
AsynchronousTimer(9.0)#frame 9
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(14.0)#frame 14
****box(0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=13.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x26, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.7, X=0.0, Y=5.6, Z=7.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
****box(0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=16.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x26, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.7, X=0.0, Y=5.6, Z=13.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.2, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(16.0)#frame 16
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(22.0)#frame 22
?SetBit(0x2100000e)
End( )

Data changes:
-Sourspot: 14.0% → 13.0% damage
-Sweetspot: 15.0% → 16.0% damage
-Sourspot & sweetspot: 50 BKB/88 KBG → 36 BKB/100 KBG

– Up smash –
IASA: 99 → 84
Invincible: 1-4 → 1-6
Charge: frame 5 → 7
Intangibility (head): 15-29 → 7-25

Original data:
unk_F0D25BDA(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
?SetBit(0x2100001b)
unk_F0D25BDA(0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(15.0)#frame 15
unk_F13BFE8D(0x13, 0x2)
AsynchronousTimer(28.0)#frame 28
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x6e, BKB=0x0, FKB=6e, KBG=0x5a, Size=6.0, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Z=-8.0, Eff=0x2, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x6e, BKB=0x0, FKB=6e, KBG=0x5a, Size=6.0, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Z=8.0, Eff=0x2, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(1.0)#frame 29
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(30.0)#frame 30
unk_CEDC237E(0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=19.0, Angle=0x5f, BKB=0x30, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4d, Size=12.0, X=0.0, Y=14.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(33.0)#frame 33
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=18.0, Angle=0x5f, BKB=0x2a, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4d, Size=11.0, X=0.0, Y=19.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
RemoveHitbox(0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(38.0)#frame 38
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=16.0, Angle=0x5f, BKB=0x25, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4d, Size=10.0, X=0.0, Y=25.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
RemoveHitbox(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(43.0)#frame 43
BHitbox(ID=0x3, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=14.0, Angle=0x5f, BKB=0x20, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4d, Size=8.0, X=0.0, Y=30.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
RemoveHitbox(0x2)
AsynchronousTimer(48.0)#frame 48
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x5f, BKB=0x1b, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4d, Size=6.5, X=0.0, Y=38.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
RemoveHitbox(0x3)
AsynchronousTimer(53.0)#frame 53
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Modified data:
unk_F0D25BDA(0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
?SetBit(0x2100001b)
unk_F0D25BDA(0x0)
unk_F13BFE8D(0x13, 0x2)
AsynchronousTimer(24.0)#frame 24
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x82, BKB=0x0, FKB=9b, KBG=0x64, Size=6.0, X=0.0, Y=2.5, Z=-8.0, Eff=0x2, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x82, BKB=0x0, FKB=9b, KBG=0x64, Size=6.0, X=0.0, Y=2.5, Z=8.0, Eff=0x2, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(1.0)#frame 25
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(26.0)#frame 26
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=21.0, Angle=0x62, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4e, Size=5.0, X=0.0, Y=14.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=19.0, Angle=0x62, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4e, Size=12.0, X=0.0, Y=14.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(1.0)#frame 27
RemoveHitbox(0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(31.0)#frame 31
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=18.0, Angle=0x62, BKB=0x2d, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4e, Size=11.0, X=0.0, Y=19.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(36.0)#frame 36
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=16.0, Angle=0x62, BKB=0x28, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4e, Size=10.0, X=0.0, Y=25.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(41.0)#frame 41
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=14.0, Angle=0x62, BKB=0x23, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4e, Size=8.0, X=0.0, Y=31.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(46.0)#frame 46
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x62, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x4e, Size=6.5, X=0.0, Y=38.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(51.0)#frame 51
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Oh boy, data changes:
-Shockwave hitboxes: active 28 → 24
-Shockwave hitboxes: launch angle 110° → 130°
-Shockwave hitboxes: 110 FKB/90 KBG → 155 FKB/100 KBG
-Shockwave hitboxes: Y=5.0 → Y=2.5
-PK Love 1st stage, new hitbox:
  • -ID=0x0, active frame 26, 21.0% damage, 98° angle, 50 BKB/78 KBG, Size=5.0, X/Y/Z=0.0/14.0/0.0, electric-type, 1.5 hitlag, transcendent
-PK Love 1st stage, old hitbox: active 30-32 → 26-30
-PK Love 1st stage, old hitbox: launch angle 95° → 98°
-PK Love 1st stage, old hitbox: 48 BKB/77 KBG → 50 BKB/78 KBG
-PK Love 1st stage, old hitbox: clang=0x1 → 0x0 (clankable → transcendent)
-PK Love 2nd stage: active 33-37 → 31-35
-PK Love 2nd stage: launch angle 95° → 98°
-PK Love 2nd stage: 42 BKB/77 KBG → 45 BKB/78KBG
-PK Love 2nd stage: clang=0x1 → 0x0
-PK Love 3rd stage: active 38-42 → 36-40
-PK Love 3rd stage: launch angle 95° → 98°
-PK Love 3rd stage: 37 BKB/77 KBG → 40 BKB/78KBG
-PK Love 3rd stage: clang=0x1 → 0x0
-PK Love 4th stage: active 43-47 → 41-45
-PK Love 4th stage: launch angle 95° → 98°
-PK Love 4th stage: 32 BKB/77 KBG → 35 BKB/78KBG
-PK Love 4th stage: Y=30.0 → Y=31.0
-PK Love 4th stage: clang=0x1 → 0x0
-PK Love 5th stage: active 48-52 → 46-50
-PK Love 5th stage: launch angle 95° → 98°
-PK Love 5th stage: 27 BKB/77 KBG → 30 BKB/78KBG
-PK Love 5th stage: clang=0x1 → 0x0


– Down smash –
IASA: frame 60 → 67
Charge: frame 6 → 18

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
?SetBit(0x2100001b)
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=17.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x2b, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=8.0, X=0.0, Y=2.5, Z=8.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 22
unk_7698BB42(0x0, 0x2a)
AsynchronousTimer(29.0)#frame 29
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=14.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=9.8, X=3.3, Y=2.5, Z=8.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 31
unk_7698BB42(0x0, 0x2a)
AsynchronousTimer(39.0)#frame 39
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=12.0, X=-5.6, Y=2.5, Z=8.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 41
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )

Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(18.0)#frame 18
?SetBit(0x2100001b)
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=17.0, Angle=0x37, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=8.0, X=0.0, Y=2.5, Z=8.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 22
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(29.0)#frame 32
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=14.0, Angle=0x37, BKB=0xf, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=10.0, X=3.3, Y=2.5, Z=8.5, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 34
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(39.0)#frame 44
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.0, Angle=0x37, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=12.0, X=-5.6, Y=2.5, Z=8.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 46
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
End( )


Data changes:
-Data bit “unk_7698BB42(0x0, 0x2a)” removed between hits 1 & 2, 2 & 3 (can now hit the same target multiple times)
-1st hit: launch angle 361° → 55°
-1st hit: 43 BKB/90 KBG → 20 BKB/100 KBG
-2nd hit: active 29-30 → 32-33
-2nd hit: launch angle 361° → 55°
-2nd hit: 30 BKB/90 KBG → 15 BKB/100 KBG
-2nd hit: hitbox size 9.8 → 10.0
-3rd hit: active 39-40 → 44-45
-3rd hit: launch angle 361° → 55°
-3rd hit: 20 BKB/90 KBG → 10 BKB/100 KBG

– Neutral aerial –
IASA: frame 45 → 43
Landing lag: 13 → 15 frames
Auto-cancel: starting frame 37 → frames 1-4, then starting frame 33

Original data:
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.0, Angle=0x16f, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x46, Size=5.3, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Y=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=2.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0, Re-hit=0x5)
AsynchronousTimer(24.0)#frame 24
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(26.0)#frame 26
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x3c, BKB=0x28, FKB=0x0, KBG=8c, Size=8.0, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Y=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(1.0)#frame 27
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(37.0)#frame 37
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 5
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=1.2, Angle=0x16f, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=5.5, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Y=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=2.5, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0, Re-hit=0x4)
AsynchronousTimer(22.0)#frame 22
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(24.0)#frame 24
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x3c, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=64, Size=8.0, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Y=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 26
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x3c, BKB=0x28, FKB=0x0, KBG=64, Size=7.0, X=0.0, Y=5.0, Y=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 28
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(33.0)#frame 33
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )

Data changes:
-1st hitbox: active 7-23 → 5-21
-1st hitbox: 2.0% → 1.2% damage
-1st hitbox: 20 BKB/70 KBG → 30 BKB/60 KBG
-1st hitbox: hitbox size 5.3 → 5.5
-1st hitbox: 1.0 → 0.5 hitlag
-1st hitbox: 2.0 → 2.5 SDI
-1st hitbox: Re-hit=0x5 → 0x4 (hits the target again every 5 → 4 frames)
-Final hit: active 26 → 24-27 (24-25 clean, 26-27 late)
-Final hit, clean: 40 BKB/140 KBG → 50 BKB/100 KBG
-Final hit, clean: 2.0 → 1.5 hitlag
-Final hit, late: 4.0% → 3.0% damage
-Final hit, late: 50 BKB/100 KBG → 40 BKB/100 KBG
-Final hit, late: 1.5 → 1.0 hitlag

– Forward aerial –
IASA: frame 42 → 40
Landing lag: 12 → 15 frames
Auto-cancel: frame 1, then starting frame 38 → starting frame 27

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 2
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(9.0)#frame 9
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x6, Part=0x0, Dmg=9.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.3, X=0.0, Y=2.9, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x7, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.5, Angle=0x2e, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x61, Size=5.0, X=3.0, Y=0.4, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.2, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 11
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x6, Part=0x0, Dmg=6.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x7, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.3, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.8, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
RemoveHitbox(0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(13.0)#frame 13
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(38.0)#frame 38
?ClearBit(0x210000d)
End( )

Modified data:
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x6, Part=0x0, Dmg=6.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=3.3, X=0.0, Y=2.9, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.7, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x7, Part=0x0, Dmg=11.5, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.0, X=3.0, Y=0.4, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.2, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(11.0)
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(27.0)#frame 27
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )

Data changes:
-Sourspot: active 9-10 → 7-10
-Sourspot: 9.0% → 6.0% damage
-Sourspot: 10 BKB/100 KBG → 20 BKB/100 KBG
-Sourspot: hitbox size 3.3 → 3.0
-Sourspot: 1.0 → 0.7 hitlag
-Sweetspot: active 9-12 → 7-10
-Sweetspot: launch angle 46° → 361°
-Sweetspot: 97 KBG → 100 KBG

– Back aerial –
IASA: frame 40
Landing lag: 15 frames
Auto-cancel: frame 1-2, then starting frame 39 → starting frame 39

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 3
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(15.0)#frame 15
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=9.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x50, Size=3.0, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x118, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.5, X=4.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0, A/G=Air)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x50, Size=4.5, X=4.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x3, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=7.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x3c, Size=3.5, X=8.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(21.0)#frame 21
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(39.0)#frame 39
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )

Modified data:
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(15.0)#frame 15
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=9.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x14, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x50, Size=3.0, X=-1.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x118, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.5, X=3.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0, A/G=Air)
BHitbox(ID=0x2, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x5a, Size=4.5, X=3.5, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
BHitbox(ID=0x3, Bone=0x9, Part=0x0, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x0, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x46, Size=3.5, X=8.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x3, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.8, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x0, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(21.0)#frame 21
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(39.0)#frame 39
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )

Data changes:
-Inner sourspot: 30 BKB → 20 BKB
-Inner sourspot: X=0.0 → X=-1.5
-Meteor/over-lapped hitbox: X=4.5 → X=3.5
-Outer sourspot: 361° → 0° angle
-Outer sourspot: 7.0% → 8.0% damage
-Outer sourspot: 60 KBG → 70 KBG
-Outer sourspot: 1.0 → 0.8 hitlag


– Up aerial –
IASA: frame 46 → 38
Landing lag: 12 → 10 frames
Auto-cancel: frame 1, then starting frame 38 → 1-5, then starting frame 37

Original data:
AsynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 2
?SetBit(0x210000d)
AsynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 7
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=13.0, Angle=0x50, BKB=0xa, KBG=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.2, X=0.0, Y=14.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.1, SDI=0.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(38.0)#frame 38
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )


Modified data:
AsynchronousTimer(6.0)#frame 6
?SetBit(0x210000d)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x13, Part=0x0, Dmg=10.0, Angle=0x50, BKB=0x1e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Size=5.0, X=5.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.1, SDI=0.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(37.0)#frame 37
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )


Data changes:
-Hitbox: Bone=0x0 → 0x13 (head)
-Hitbox: active 7-9 → 6-9
-Hitbox: 13.0% → 10.0% damage
-Hitbox: 10 BKB → 30 BKB
-Hitbox: size 5.2 → 5.0, X=5.0

– Down aerial –
IASA: frame 57 → 48
Landing lag: 25 frames
Auto-cancel: starting frame 47 → starting frame 38

Original data:
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(10.0)#frame 10
LoopStart(0x3)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.5, Angle=0x5a, BKB=0x2a, FKB=0x0, KBG=0xa, Size=5.0, X=0.0, Y=-5.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.5, Angle=0x10e, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x14, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 13
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
SynchronousTimer(5.0)#frame 18
LoopEnd(-0x37)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=5.0, Angle=0x10e, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x6e, Size=6.9, X=0.0, Y=-5.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=5.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x82, Size=5.0, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(2.0)#frame 20
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(45.0)#frame 45
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )

Modified data:
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
LoopStart(0x3)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.5, Angle=0x5a, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0xa, Size=5.0, X=0.0, Y=-5.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.8, SDI=1.0 Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.5, Angle=0x10e, BKB=0x0, FKB=0x14, KBG=0x64, Size=3.5, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.8, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 11
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 14
LoopEnd(-0x37)
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=5.0, Angle=0x10e, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x6e, Size=7.0, X=0.0, Y=-5.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
BHitbox(ID=0x1, Bone=0x0, Part=0x0, Dmg=5.0, Angle=0x10e, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x6e, Size=5.0, X=0.0, Y=1.0, Z=0.7, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x1)
SynchronousTimer(3.0)#frame 17
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(38.0)#frame 38
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
End( )

Data changes:
Hitbox loop: loops every 8 → 6 frames (10-12, 18-20, 26-28 → 8-10, 14-16, 20-22)
Hitbox loop, lower hitbox: 42 BKB → 50 BKB
Hitbox loop, both hitboxes: 1.0 → 0.8 hitlag
Final hit: active for 2 → 3 frames (active 34-36 → 26-28)
Final hit, lower hitbox: hitbox size 6.9 → 7.0
Final hit, upper hitbox: launch angle 361° → 270°
Final hit, upper hitbox: 130 KBG → 110 KBG

– Z aerial –
IASA: frame 60
Landing lag: 8 frames

Original data:
unk_23A9AC4B(0x5)
unk_0202C138(0x5, 0x0)
SynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 8
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
unk_AF41E94E(0x5, 0x1)
unk_0202C139(0x5, 0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(9.0)#frame 9
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x1a, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x2d, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x1e, Size=2.3, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(13.0)#frame 13
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x1a, Part=0x0, Dmg=2.8, Angle=0x2d, BKB=0x28, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x1e, Size=2.0, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=1.0, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(25.0#frame 25
unk_A30D3CA(0x5, 0x3)
AsynchronousTimer(50.0)#frame 50
unk_C436BF6E(0x5)
End( )

Modified data:
unk_23A9AC4B(0x5)
unk_0202C138(0x5, 0x0)
SynchronousTimer(7.0)#frame 8
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(8.0)#frame 8
?ClearBit(0x2100000d)
unk_AF41E94E(0x5, 0x1)
unk_0202C139(0x5, 0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(9.0)#frame 9
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x1a, Part=0x0, Dmg=4.0, Angle=0x2d, BKB=0x46, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x1e, Size=2.5, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(13.0)#frame 13
BHitbox(ID=0x0, Bone=0x1a, Part=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x2d, BKB=0x32, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x1e, Size=2.5, X=0.0, Y=0.0, Z=0.0, Eff=0x0, Trip=0x0, Hit=0.5, SDI=1.0, Clang=0x1, RB=0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
RemoveAllHitboxes( )
AsynchronousTimer(25.0#frame 25
unk_A30D3CA(0x5, 0x3)
AsynchronousTimer(50.0)#frame 50
unk_C436BF6E(0x5)
End( )


Modified data:
-Clean hitbox: 60 BKB → 70 BKB
-Clean hitbox: hitbox size 2.3 → 2.5
-Late hitbox: 2.8% → 3.0% damage
-Late hitbox: 40 BKB → 50 BKB
-Late hitbox: hitbox size 2.0 → 2.5
-Clean & late hitboxes: 1.0 → 0.5 hitlag

– Forward throw –
IASA: frame 53 → 55

Original data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=10.0, Angle=0x30, BKB=0x50, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x41, Weight=0x1)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(23.0)#frame 23
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )


Modified data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x32, BKB=0x34, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(23.0)#frame 23
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )

Data changes:
-10.0% → 8.0% damage
-Launch angle 48° → 50°
-80 BKB/71 KBG → 52 BKB/100 KBG

– Back throw –
IASA: frame 53 → 55

Original data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=10.0, Angle=0x29, BKB=0x50, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x41, Weight=0x1)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
unk_63623560( )
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )

Modified data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=8.0, Angle=0x28, BKB=0x34, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(20.0)#frame 20
unk_63623560( )
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )

Data changes:
-10.0% → 8.0% damage
-Launch angle 41° → 40°
-80 BKB/71 KBG → 52 BKB/100 KBG

– Up throw –
IASA: frame 56 → 60

Original data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=10.0, Angle=0x5a, BKB=0x4e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x45, Weight=0x1)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(25.0)#frame 25
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )

Modified data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=12.0, Angle=0x50, BKB=0xa, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x66, Weight=0x1)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(25.0)#frame 25
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )


Data changes:
-10.0% → 12.0% damage
-Launch angle 90° → 80°
-78 BKB/69 KBG → 10 BKB/102 KBG

– Down throw –
IASA: frame 50

Original data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=6.5, Angle=0x50, BKB=0x4e, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x33, Weight=0x0)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(41.0)#frame 41
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )


Modified data:
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=6.0, Angle=0x69, BKB=0x5a, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x28, Weight=0x0)
GrabHitbox(ID=0x0, ?=0x0, Dmg=3.0, Angle=0x169, BKB=0x3c, FKB=0x0, KBG=0x64, Weight=0x1)
AsynchronousTimer(40.0)#frame 40
unk_D8DF1DCC(0x0, 0x1a, 0x11000005, 0x11000006, 0x11000007)
End( )


Data changes:
-Target thrown on frame 41 → 40
-6.5% → 6.0% damage
-Launch angle 80° → 105°
-78 BKB/51 KBG → 90 BKB/40 KBG
 
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Breeze~

Breeze~

Smash Rookie
Joined
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Messages
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That Up air looks beautiful. Those ideas are a general collection of what I've seen other people say on discord and here, along with what was removed from brawl. Hopefully this patch will be a good one for Lucas players
 
MrWhYYZ

MrWhYYZ

Smash Journeyman
Joined
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Messages
306
Location
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Up-air needs fixing, N-air SDI, Having Up-smash work properly with people hanging on the ledge and having B-air auto-cancel on 1-14 would fix almost all problems Lucas has imo. Anything else is just luxury that would be nice but isn't 100 needed.
 
JosePollo

JosePollo

Smash Journeyman
Joined
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Messages
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Location
Las Vegas
MrWhYYZ said:
Up-air needs fixing, N-air SDI, Having Up-smash work properly with people hanging on the ledge and having B-air auto-cancel on 1-14 would fix almost all problems Lucas has imo. Anything else is just luxury that would be nice but isn't 100 needed.
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Can we have Brawl nair back? That move would be broken in Smash 4 with the decreased efficiency of SDI.
 
Ignis Wario

Ignis Wario

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 28, 2015
Messages
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Location
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NNID
grubcomposed
I'm really hoping the patch will allow Lucas to heal from Greninja's Water Shuriken. That has to be one of my least favorite matchups due to the fact that he can camp us out and then run to the other side of the stage and repeat.
 
frozentreasure

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Ignis Wario said:
I'm really hoping the patch will allow Lucas to heal from Greninja's Water Shuriken. That has to be one of my least favorite matchups due to the fact that he can camp us out and then run to the other side of the stage and repeat.
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Of all the reasons to dislike a Greninja match, that is one of the last I would think of.

I just want down smash fixed. After that, up smash fixed. After that, a short hop autocancel aerial. After that, up air fixed. I'm not too greedy. They fixed Samus eventually.
 
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personal wishlist, descending priority:

- More range on Dair, shorten IASA to allow DJ out of FH Dair
- Nair <1.5x SDI multiplier, if required change damage to compensate (1%, 1%, 2%, 2%, 4%?).
- a backswing (and forward swing) hitbox on Uair

- revert Dsmash's sex kick hitbox to Brawl
- SH Nair ACs
- more range on Fair
- Dtilt tipper trips

- Fsmash a bit stronger (~120/~110 -> ~115/~105)
- change angle of fastest PKT2 to 45 deg or steeper
- stop making PKT2 bounce off of ledges when you hit the top part
- Bair kills earlier (~170 -> ~150)
 
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My predictions:
-Nerfs:
  • 43 → 40 BKB on frames 20-21 of down smash.
  • They fix fair's programming to what they most likely intended originally (sweetspot 9-10, 9% sourspot 9-10, 6% sourspot 11-12) without giving us a good auto-cancel.
  • Up air gets a damage reduction of 0.5% to 1.0%. They've been nerfing a lot of throw confirms recently, so it makes sense they'd nerf one as free as the PK Hoo Ha. Maybe throw in an angle change in there to boot. Something like 80° → 78° or lower to make it easier to DI.
  • 51 → 58 KBG or greater for down throw. This would possibly be the worst nerf they could give Lucas, imo.
-Buffs:
  • 0.5% damage increase to jab 2.
  • 0.5% damage increase to sourspot f-tilt.
  • 0.5% damage increase to frames 7-10 of up tilt.
  • 88 → 90 KGB on f-smash.
  • Y=5.0 → Y=2.0 on the shockwave hitboxes of up smash, if they're feeling generous.
  • 77 → 80 KBG on up smash (I feel like I'm reaching here).
Sakurai giveth, and Sakurai taketh away (yes, I know he's not in charge of balance patches).
 
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So, apparently some modders got an early hold of the patch 1.1.6 files and according to them Bayonetta is the only character that was changed.

https://twitter.com/RandomTBush/status/733123976352927745

Kind of disappointing, but I guess I'll take it over any Lucas nerfs. A nerfed Bayo (and a lot of her changes are confirmed nerfs) is an indirect buff, anyway. Still, though, we'll see if their claims hold true once the patch drops and there's more sets of eyes poring through the data.
 
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According to this (https://www.diffchecker.com/f1ljywon) Bayonetta's changes are:
  • Down tilt: hitbox size 3.5 → 2.8 (7.0 → 5.6)
  • F-air 1: 3.8% → 3.0% damage
  • F-air 2: 2.8% → 2.2% damage
  • F-air 3: 82 → 68 KBG
  • F-air 3 auto-cancel: starting on frame 32 → starting on some later frame (not exactly sure).
  • D-air landing hitbox: 140 → 135 KBG
  • After Burner Kick 7-9: 40 → 50 KBG
  • After Burner Kick 10-14: 30 → 38 KBG
  • After Burner Kick 15-19: 100 → 112 KBG
  • After Burner Kick: 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • After Burner Kick (dive kick): 8.0% → 6.5% damage
  • After Burner Kick (dive kick): 80° → 60° (this is huge)
  • After Burner Kick (dive kick): hitbox size 6.5 → 4.5 (13.0 → 9.0)
  • After Burner Kick (dive kick): 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • After Burner Kick (dive kick landing): 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • Witch Twist frame 4: 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • Witch Twist 8-11: 160 FKB/100 KBG → 140 FKB/97 KBG (this sounds more like a buff...?)
  • Witch Twist 8-11: hitbox size 8.0 → 7.0 (16.0 → 14.0)
  • Witch Twist 8-11, lower hitbox: Y=24 → Y=21 (hitbox placed lower)
  • Witch Twist 8-11: 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • Witch Twist 12-16: hitbox size 8.0 → 7.0 (16.0 → 14.0)
  • Witch Twist 12-16, lower hitbox: Y=24 → Y=21
  • Witch Twist 12-16: 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • Witch Twist 17-22, upper hitbox: 160 → 135 FKB
  • Witch Twist 17-22: hitbox size 8.0 → 7.0 (16.0 → 14.0)
  • Witch Twist 17-22, lower hitbox: Y=24 → Y=21
  • Witch Twist 17-22: 1.0 → 2.0 SDI
  • Witch Twist 24-25, 1st use: 50 BKB/105 KBG → 55 BKB/80 KBG (umm...
  • Witch Twist 24-25, 2nd use: 30 BKB/30 KBG → 30 BKB/50 KBG
  • Witch Twist 24-25: hitbox size 9.0 → 8.5 (18.0 → 17.0)
  • Witch Twist 24-25 unknown parameter: either 32 → 25, or 20 → 19 (I have no idea what this is, or if the values are in hexadecimal or decimal). EDIT: Turns out this is the Y position of the hitbox. So the change was Y=20.0 → 19.0.
Whew. What do you guys think?
 
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Or you can just go to the official patch notes thread that is available on this very website, just like every other patch, and is far more readable.
 
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frozentreasure said:
Or you can just go to the official patch notes thread that is available on this very website, just like every other patch, and is far more readable.
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Lmao I know. I didn't even realize the patch notes discussion was open when I posted that. There weren't any changes to Lucas, so this entire thread is completely pointless.
 
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I mean, I'm good as long as Lucas doesn't get nerfed. I wouldn't mind a surprise buff, though.
 
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