Parachute Parade! - GnW Social Discussion

[fraudster111]

Sounds like you have bad DI and are really predictable. Yeah, his U-air has stupid range, but it's really not something you should get hit by.

You have to have reaction time against Sonic...plain and simple. You can't mindlessly spam anything most of the time because he has a weak option that punishes it. Personally, I think Up-smash and F-smash are better for stopping his spindash.

And really, the key to this matchup is walking and shielding. When you're not screwing up, he's not killing you ever. His KO moves are all too slow (and pathetically weak at the same time).

And edgeguard him when he goes offstage. If you can get to where he is and attack, you will win. Low recoveries are BEGGING to be D-aired or Smashed.

Thanks, imma try that the next time i play him. Ive tried stoping his spindash with fsmash and up smash and dsmash but he usually cancels his spindash into a homing attack as soon as he sees me pull it out. I never tried dairing his up b tho. Always thought that would make him fly up and he can just up b again.

 

[A2ZOMG]

I never tried dairing his up b tho. Always thought that would make him fly up and he can just up b again.

Better to get a free hit than let him get away with nothing. Oh and stagespikes and vertical KOs.

 

[fraudster111]

I played that sonic today and it felt good to finally pwn him plus i finally learned how to bucket brake so it pissed him off when i didnt die from his bair at 130. Its not as easy as i taught because you have to d.i then neutral a and bucket really fast so i had him dk punching me for practice. I can survive Dk's punch at 97!!! on FD. My sonic friend was dumbfounded and called me a d.i god. Imagine if gnw was a mid weight we would be banned for not dieing by a fsmash at 160. lol

 

[cemo]

I would be happier if this thread was Box Social instead of Social Discussion Thread.

The trick against Snake is don't jump into the up-tilts. :x

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

If we wanna vote/ someone can up with a fancy name, i'll glady change it.

w00t, 1000th post.

 

[fraudster111]

If we wanna vote/ someone can up with a fancy name, i'll glady change it.

w00t, 1000th post.

Fancy name for what exactly?

 

[damaro7]

Im new to the boards. thought my question would be better posted on this social thread. Are there really that few of GaW videos? I mean Ive searched for days on the boards and can't find a good video to take away from.

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

G&W doesn't look fancy. Its not so much that there aren't any videos, its just kind of hard for someone new to take away from them. my suggestion, watch UTD's combo vid, or just straight up matches of UTD, valdens (are there even any?) NoJ, etc, and try to see what they do for specific situations you're having problems with.


and a fancy name for this thread

 

[Today]

Yay! Game and Watch players~! And thank you very much for the Snake tip as well! Good luck to everyone!!

 

[Cel]

lol yea, i rarely see gnw players anymore, but on the bright side its good to stand out =)

 

[AvoiD]

Zak 2-0ed Tyrant.

and him and Dojo placed 5th in Dubz.

 

[9Kplus1]

Someone told me that G&W is secretly metrosexual. Is this true?

 

[Hylian]

Yeah UTD Zac 2-0ed Tyrant .

Texasssssss

 

[PentaSalia]

i'm surprised nobody has said,"Don't mess with texas" yet.

lol ;/

good shiz ZAC

 

[Mr. Escalator]

Zac is a certified killing machine.

In the words of Poyo... "Good ****; I just came".

 

[A2ZOMG]

Let's discuss techchasing!

What do you think when you D-throw someone?

Dumb people who can't tech that land behind you are asking to get regrabbed.

People who are grabbed relatively close, but not next to the ledge, if they are smart, will try to roll towards the ledge attempting to counterpredict.

Olimar when grabbed kinda near the edge always DIs behind you to avoid the D-smash kill. F-smash him if he doesn't tech.

Any other patterns you like to pick up on? I personally think it's fun to techchase and figure out your opponent's patterns. I'm very prediction oriented when I play.

Obviously any smart player occasionally tries to defy aforementioned patterns. XD

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

i wish i played ANYONE who didn't tech G&Ws d-throw...

 

[Motel Vacaville of the West]

I'm not the best a tech chasing, but I usually Dash U-Smash to get them.

If my predictions are consecutively wrong, I begin to B/F-Throw to throw them off a bit.

 

[lou4222]

UTD please please please tell me you have videos from the weekend

 

[UTDZac]

UTD please please please tell me you have videos from the weekend

I have a LOT of videos from the active gamers tourney. Like 35+ matches recorded, including the one you all want to see

EDIT: @SuSa thanks. glad to finally meet you and play some games.

 

[SuSa]

So UTD is legit, and is awesome at reading people.

**** you and you landing usmash like 5 times in one match. >:

 

[PentaSalia]

I have a LOT of videos from the active gamers tourney. Like 35+ matches recorded, including the one you all want to see

EDIT: @SuSa thanks. glad to finally meet you and play some games.

:O

any of em your dittos vs valdens? lmao


but really looking forward to the vids o_o
we all are

*hypes*

 

[cutter]

So much for MK/G&W being a "free win for MK", eh Zac?

 

[Mr. Escalator]

In NoJ's wise words: "Only a bad MK would lose to G&W".

 

[lou4222]

In NoJ's wise words: "Only a bad MK would lose to G&W".

I used to think the same thing, but i think ive changed my mind. GW actually has a few options against MK. Granted it has taken me months and months of getting destroyed by MK, but I am finally coming around. Im pumped to see Zacs vids so I can see if I can add anything else.

 

[UTDZac]

I'm still unsure where I stand about MK vs. G&W. You'll like what you see with me vs. Tyrant, but not with me vs. Havok =(

 

[VaJaJ]

The mk matches sound like they'll be pretty interesting but i really wanna see how the flip u lost to larry lurr:o

 

[SuSa]

Here's a TL;DR for everyone:

If all the MK does is walk around and ftilt. They win.
If the MK tries to play smart like Tyrant, they lose.

That's what I think I heard/saw.

 

[Mr. Escalator]

If the MK limits himself by just walking and Ftilting, consider it an easy win.
God, I havent heard that strategy in ages. It DOESN'T work, lol.

 

[SuSa]

*looks at what happened a few days ago*
*Looks at what Havok told Tyrant*
*slowly walks away*

 

[Mr. Escalator]

And stay out.

That particular advice is as helpful as "spam Dtilt versus Sonic". It's also just as wrong and misleading as it.

Next thing you'll be saying is G&W is predictable. Pff.

 

[SuSa]

Obviously it's not all you do. I should be more specific, but meh.

I'm lazy.

 

[Gnes]

And stay out.

That particular advice is as helpful as "spam Dtilt versus Sonic". It's also just as wrong and misleading as it.

Next thing you'll be saying is G&W is predictable. Pff.

Wait...hes not???

 

[UTDZac]

Here's a TL;DR for everyone:

If all the MK does is walk around and ftilt. They win.
If the MK tries to play smart like Tyrant, they lose.

That's what I think I heard/saw.

It's true. Vids up tomorrow morning.

 

[SuSa]

If the MK limits himself by just walking and Ftilting, consider it an easy win.
God, I havent heard that strategy in ages. It DOESN'T work, lol.

It's true. Vids up tomorrow morning.

This is going to sound extremely dickish, but after someone told this to me at Active. I just have to say this for the lulz right now:

"Man, is it me or does SuSa always seem to be right?"

 

[A2ZOMG]

Against MK that F-tilt camps, what works is punishing him out of shield with F-air.

Just sayin.

 

[SuSa]

Not if he delays the 2nd hit of ftilt.

 

[UTDZac]

You have a 2 frame window to punish MK out of his Ftilt (after the first and second hits). He doesn't have to finish it with the third hit. Instead he can end early and grab you while you are shielding the attack. If you try to shield grab before he grabs you, he can instead react with the third hit of ftilt.

And since ftilt outranges all of G&W's ground attacks, it's nearly impossible to approach. I seriously don't know what to do.

 

[Noraa]

UtD i need to see those matches -_-

 

[**Havok**]

It's just my ground game =)

And it does work mr. escalator, dsmash doesnt hit and gets grabbed in between hits, fsmash gets hit by another ftilt/dtilt or blocked, mk won't get grabbed if you space it correctly and any type of approach gets shuttle looped. Keys get grabbed, not much fairing in this match with mk. And it's not spamming tilts it's just applying them in a way where it keeps your opponent guessing and fairing backwards to position yourself correctly again so you won't get hit by g&w dtilt. And in the event you block everything i just dtilt slowly so it beats any response you have (including jumps, not up-B's). Combine this with walkup grab and your set. <3 Keep guessing mr&watch. And it's always a slow ftilt, depending one what you see you can speed it up.

I just save my dsmash and uptilt for kills.

It's not just just ftilt in hoping you catch a player, merely smart application. I don't think anyone really plays it like I do either, i told tyrant though =).

There's only one g&w I fear =(