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Favorite Advance Wars Game (Not Including pre-AW and Battalion Wars)


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Now THIS is good news.

I hope IS serious takes a look at this, this is all the proof we need that Wars and FE can easily coexist with each other. Both fulfill a different niche and can be just as big if they can even try. All they need to do is bring back the same style and tone as the GBA games and go from there.
 

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Now THIS is good news.

I hope IS serious takes a look at this, this is all the proof we need that Wars and FE can easily coexist with each other. Both fulfill a different niche and can be just as big if they can even try. All they need to do is bring back the same style and tone as the GBA games and go from there.
Huge indeed. Even more so considering Fortnite is a free game.

Realistically speaking, sales for Wargroove has to be in the million range to nearly top the Switch Eshop charts right? At the very least, it has to be in the millions accounting for not only Switch sales but Xbox One and PC sales units as well.

And if that's the case then holy smokes. The best selling Advance Wars game only did 700K units (given it was a time when TBS games weren't popular in the West) so that's a massive step up. And it also shows that there's a huge untapped market for this genre that Nintendo/Intelligent Systems hasn't tapped in to or are otherwise not acknowledging. Hopefully that won't be the case anymore as I mentioned before.
 
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Huge indeed. Even more so considering Fortnite is a free game.

Realistically speaking, sales for Wargroove has to be in the million range to nearly top the Switch Eshop charts right? At the very least, it has to be in the millions accounting for not only Switch sales but Xbox One and PC sales units as well.

And if that's the case then holy smokes. The best selling Advance Wars game only did 700K units (given it was a time when TBS games weren't popular in the West) so that's a massive step up. And it also shows that there's a huge untapped market for this genre that Nintendo/Intelligent Systems hasn't tapped in to or are otherwise not acknowledging. Hopefully that won't be the case anymore as I mentioned before.
At this point I'm actually concerned that IS doesn't think they can compete with Wargroove. Talk about a runaway success.
 
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At this point I'm actually concerned that IS doesn't think they can compete with Wargroove. Talk about a runaway success.
That is a concern I have as well.

While Wargroove is AW's savior, it could be something not even IS's Wars game would hold a candlel too if they tried. But I have faith that they can go back to the roots and try something that can be as good as it.
 
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A new Advance Wars game would probably get a higher budget than Wargroove (IS is a respectably large company), better advertising than Wargroove (at least advertising towards a larger audience that doesn't necessarily play indie games), a physical copy at release to get people to pick it up at a brick-and-mortar store, and that classic Nintendo label on it (assuring consumers of its quality). AW would probably also make the move to 3D graphics, which in itself would likely be enough "newness" to lure back a lot of old fans.
 

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I'm with SPEN on that a new Advance Wars would look a lot more visually impressive than Wargroove and would have a higher budget. Consider how much bigger Intelligent Systems is now coming in to the 2020's VS the Intelligent Systems of the 2000's that relied on Paper Mario. Lets also account for how successful they've been with FEH.

Gotta put that FEH money to good use huh? :lol:

Joking aside, I would expect Advance Wars of the 2020's to be vastly different from what it was before. 3D graphics/battle animations of course but also the implementation of cutscenes, and of course. a game in HD. Lets not forget all the new touches it would have like online matchmaking/leaderboard, playing on the go and sharing maps locally, and maybe even an expansion of the War Room of old only now with new missions added in through updates. And of course, it's story would be a lot more fleshed out and the characters/setting will be at the forefront of the story more so than before.
 
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If AW were to make the jump to 3D, I'd like it to have cel-shaded graphics. Keep the cartoony aesthetic.
Yeah def. The artstyle used in Days of Ruin did nothing for me and felt like a downgrade from what we had in the Wars World Trilogy (at least accounting for battle animations and the UI). Hopefully, said new AW has the cel-shaded look the GBA AW's had since it aged so well since the early-mid 2000's.
 
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Thread's been dead for a while so I wanted to get some discussion going...

There's likely to be a Smash Direct happening in a week or two that will likely showcase Joker, Erdrick, some Mii Costumes, Spirits, and the rumored returns of Home-Run Contest/Stage Builder.

What are some of your hopes for said Direct and do you think it's a lock we see Erdrick confirmed? Also, what about the possibility of Advance Wars Mii Costume(s)? Do you think it will happen?
 

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What are some of your hopes for said Direct and do you think it's a lock we see Erdrick confirmed? Also, what about the possibility of Advance Wars Mii Costume(s)? Do you think it will happen?
Erdrick could happen; I wouldn't call it a lock rn, though.

AW Mii Costumes are unlikely, but given that characters like Lip, Takamaru, Saki, Ray, and Chibi-Robo have them, AW characters could be among the next ones in line. DLC Costumes are more likely to have third parties, though, especially given the removals of third party costumes from 4.
 

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Erdrick could happen; I wouldn't call it a lock rn, though.

AW Mii Costumes are unlikely, but given that characters like Lip, Takamaru, Saki, Ray, and Chibi-Robo have them, AW characters could be among the next ones in line. DLC Costumes are more likely to have third parties, though, especially given the removals of third party costumes from 4.
Yeah Mii Costumes are likely to be 3rd party going forward but we'll still see some 1st party ones I think.

I'm hard pressed to think of anyone other than Erdrick TBH. It's almost like Roy/Ryu all over again.
 

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Thread's been dead for a while so I wanted to get some discussion going...

There's likely to be a Smash Direct happening in a week or two that will likely showcase Joker, Erdrick, some Mii Costumes, Spirits, and the rumored returns of Home-Run Contest/Stage Builder.

What are some of your hopes for said Direct and do you think it's a lock we see Erdrick confirmed? Also, what about the possibility of Advance Wars Mii Costume(s)? Do you think it will happen?
If there are first party Mii Costumes (there's bound to be a few) I can see AW getting one or even two. Would also expect a blue bandana as headgear, maybe the Labor VR headset, and a full costume for another character in demand (Impa? Elma?)

Imo Erdrick is nearly a lock. If it's not Erdrick, it will be a SE character. I'd be very ****ing annoyed if we get nothing.
 

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If there are first party Mii Costumes (there's bound to be a few) I can see AW getting one or even two. Would also expect a blue bandana as headgear, maybe the Labor VR headset, and a full costume for another character in demand (Impa? Elma?)

Imo Erdrick is nearly a lock. If it's not Erdrick, it will be a SE character. I'd be very ****ing annoyed if we get nothing.
Yeah I agree there's no way there isn't a 2nd reveal. Although i'm almost certain of it being Erdrick/DQ.

If DLC Assist Trophies were a thing, i'd love for Infantry & Tanks to return. Preferably with Andy leading the charge.
 

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Hey guys I could use some help with a little project I'm doing. Do any of you know where I can find a bunch of official artwork made for the Wars series? It's easy to find artwork for Advance Wars and beyond, but the older stuff has proven to be a challenge. Like Famicom Wars, Super Famicom Wars, Gameboy Wars, etc.
 
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How are you guys liking the new content in 3.0? My Switch is defective as all hell so i'm not able to play at the moment. Need to look in to getting my Switch fixed.
Hey guys I could use some help with a little project I'm doing. Do any of you know where I can find a bunch of official artwork made for the Wars series? It's easy to find artwork for Advance Wars and beyond, but the older stuff has proven to be a challenge. Like Famicom Wars, Super Famicom Wars, Gameboy Wars, etc.
I would think you could find those things through simple Google searches no? That's how I usually find em'. Try using the Wars Wiki to find those things because it might be there.
 
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Hey, guys? Random question, but... what would you all say to the idea of Andy being playable in Super Smash Flash 2? The thought came to my head recently after remembering how that game was going to have Westport Base from (I think?) the original Advance Wars as a stage.
 

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Hey, guys? Random question, but... what would you all say to the idea of Andy being playable in Super Smash Flash 2? The thought came to my head recently after remembering how that game was going to have Westport Base from (I think?) the original Advance Wars as a stage.
I have never played SSF, but sure, all in. That would certainly help him get noticed and thus there'd be more support.
 

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Hey, guys? Random question, but... what would you all say to the idea of Andy being playable in Super Smash Flash 2? The thought came to my head recently after remembering how that game was going to have Westport Base from (I think?) the original Advance Wars as a stage.
Hell yeah man! I love SSF2 and i've been wanting Andy to join that roster as well. As GoodGrief said, it would get new eyeballs on the series and the franchise would be better exposed. Also, I think it would lead to an increase to Andy's Smash support because then people would actually get to see how an Advance Wars character plays. Something that really hurts Andy's prospects currently since CO's are never shown fighting.

Also, SSF2's quality is really great. Like professional level to the point where it's basically an official title but sprite-based. It would be the closest thing we would have to Andy in Smash similar to Isaac.
 
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Hell yeah man! I love SSF2 and i've been wanting Andy to join that roster as well. As GoodGrief said, it would get new eyeballs on the series and the franchise would be better exposed. Also, I think it would lead to an increase to Andy's Smash support because then people would actually get to see how an Advance Wars character plays. Something that really hurts Andy's prospects currently since CO's are never shown fighting.

Also, SSF2's quality is really great. Like professional level to the point where it's basically an official title but sprite-based. It would be the closest thing we would have to Andy in Smash similar to Isaac.
This.

He would be simply amazing to have. Even if he's not in the final game, he could be an expansion character. Which would help a lot.

I'm surprised to hear that they originally planned a stage. It was likely scrapped since Wars was kind of dead at the time.
 

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This.

He would be simply amazing to have. Even if he's not in the final game, he could be an expansion character. Which would help a lot.

I'm surprised to hear that they originally planned a stage. It was likely scrapped since Wars was kind of dead at the time.
IIRC I heard it might have been re-worked as the Lake of Rage stage but i'm not sure about that. I did see the prototype design for it and TBH it's not what I would come to expect from an AW stage. Or maybe that's because it was in the early development stages and wasn't closed to being finished.

Hopefully if Andy gets in there's a better stage that's more faithful to the Wars series. Something akin to what I proposed with a cycling stage through the city, sea, and air. If not a cycling stage then maybe just a city in an all-out war in the background.
 

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Ryo Hirata (the illustrator of Advance Wars) re-posted some of the artwork he uploaded a few years ago. If you haven't seen it already, check it out in this tweet. Features some official art as well as some concept art.


He also had this to say which shed some light on the development of the game.

I think it is the most free job I have ever done. In Japan, it was released in 2004 in the form of 1 + 2, but it started making at around the age of 22 in 1999. Most of the work is dot strikes such as weapons and maps, and character designs and illustrations are about 10% of the entire memory.
He mentions that the first Advance Wars game started development in 1999 (2 years before it's release) which is odd given there was like 2-3 games in the Wars series that came out in that time frame (not in the West but in Japan). Hirata also mentions that the designs and illustrations took up about 10% of the memory which is not much of a stretch to believe given it was a GBA title.

Hirata was also 22 when he first started the game and it might have been one of his first projects in his career. I'm not sure what he did afterwards other than the fact that he also worked on the sequels; Black Hole Rising and Dual Strike but didn't return for Days of Ruin.
 
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