Oh guess what I found?

[Boxob]

Something useless.

The opening frames of Dair have invincibility frames.

Enjoy.

 

[Chis]

Prove it or this thing is getting closed in two minutes.

 

[Boxob]

Prove it or this thing is getting closed in two minutes.

I daired on green greens through two blocks of bombs.

Go do it yourself.

Then when you're done, stop trying to be cool.

 

[Chis]

I daired on green greens through two blocks of bombs.

Go do it yourself.

Then when you're done, stop trying to be cool.

I don't need to try. And can you blame me after the other thread. The hoax?

 

[thecatinthehat]

Just tried it.
I think it's a priority thing. Cuz I just naired though a bomb block.

 

[da K.I.D.]

failsauce...

 

[Espy Rose]

Boxob, just stop it. It's very annoying.

 

[Browny]

sorry for bumpage but i might be doing some more frame-data nonsense tomorrow and am wondering if its worth me looking into this. Ill be trying to find the invinci frames on usmash, spring and side b and maybe d-air if this wasnt a joke

 

[Tenki]

get that U-smash **** >:l

lol

 

[Browny]

spam moar

youll be at 9000 soon enough

 

[da K.I.D.]

tbh, i dont think up smash has invincibility,

ive been hit out of just about every phase of the move, it still works very well, i just think it has odd properties, just not invincible

p.s. the bomb blocks proly have the same properties as snakes mortars, where if you cover your self with a hit box than they dont hurt you

 

[Napilopez]

I'm pretty sure it has invincibility frames.

Eating a Dair from Link or TL is a pretty hard thing to do =/ So, usmash has some sort of uber power in their.

 

[Tenki]

tbh, i dont think up smash has invincibility,

ive been hit out of just about every phase of the move, it still works very well, i just think it has odd properties, just not invincible

p.s. the bomb blocks proly have the same properties as snakes mortars, where if you cover your self with a hit box than they dont hurt you

I've mentioned before that, in the same manner that HA 'misses' (goes at 45 degrees downwards) when you spotdodge or roll, I've seen HA miss against Sonic's U-smash

 

[Browny]

stick a C4 on sonics head
do usmash
detonate c4

see what happens

 

[Boxob]

Explosion hitboxes are much different than regular hitboxes.

Get someone to hit you with a homerun bat during Usmash.

 

[da K.I.D.]

best way to tell is to set the damage at 998 for sonic and hit him with something fast like a tilt while he does the move.

if the move goes through sonic and damage is still at 998 than its invincible
if the move goes through sonic and damage is at 999 than its super armor
if sonic stop his own move , it clanks and
if sonic flys off the screen faster than the speed of sound its none of the above

 

[Browny]

usmash is wtf

there was no way i could time it to successfully negate a homerun bat or spacies lasers, but thats it.

I couldnt find a single other attack that managed to hit sonic out of it, they all just cancelled it. It seems to have a massive disjoint surrounding his body and his hurtbox is shrunk really small. I had ike do eruption and i SH'd over it as he released and there was no way i could avoid taking damage. using usmash i avoided it every time and they both go about the same height. against snakes utilt it just constantly clanked with it. even ikes fsmash couldnt hit sonic while doing usmash until i got just close enough such that usmash hit ike while fsmash didnt :/

I think it seemed invincible to me because ive never had any attack beat out usmash. the fact that his hurtbox is shrunk so much and that most attacks hit in an arc (the most disjointed attacks in the game all hit in an arc) actually cant hit him until they are too close such that usmash hits. I think i remember something about DDD fsmash still hitting, i didnt test it though i stuck to snake/ike/MKs attacks

It cancels out MK glide attack too so yeah :/

 

[Tenki]

usmash is wtf

there was no way i could time it to successfully negate a homerun bat or spacies lasers, but thats it.

I couldnt find a single other attack that managed to hit sonic out of it, they all just cancelled it. It seems to have a massive disjoint surrounding his body and his hurtbox is shrunk really small. I had ike do eruption and i SH'd over it as he released and there was no way i could avoid taking damage. using usmash i avoided it every time and they both go about the same height. against snakes utilt it just constantly clanked with it. even ikes fsmash couldnt hit sonic while doing usmash until i got just close enough such that usmash hit ike while fsmash didnt :/

I think it seemed invincible to me because ive never had any attack beat out usmash. the fact that his hurtbox is shrunk so much and that most attacks hit in an arc (the most disjointed attacks in the game all hit in an arc) actually cant hit him until they are too close such that usmash hits. I think i remember something about DDD fsmash still hitting, i didnt test it though i stuck to snake/ike/MKs attacks

It cancels out MK glide attack too so yeah :/

I've been hit out of it, but I've dodged/avoided the lock on from HA, and gone through Ike F-smash once.

`.`; the frame / point that it comes out definitely needs to be mapped out.